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Old 04-18-2013, 3:25 PM
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Red face Will ammo ever get cheaper?

Hi Ive recently got into the sport of shooting and purchased a G17. For the past year I've herd ammo is so expensive due to the government buying surplus. But for me it's always been these prices. So if prices go down what do you think the percentage drop will be and when do you think it will happen. I see in posts from 2009 people saying that ammo prices are up because of the same reasons now.

Are we simply creating this increase ourselves by supply and demand?
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Who knows. Things started clearing up with increased 'ammo availability a couple of months ago, but suddenly I'm finding it more difficult to find 'ammo recently. Pricing seems to be steady, if not slowly declining, but I think we can forget about pre-4th Quarter 2012 prices...
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No..... manufacturers saw what people were willing to pay, SO... I'm guessing it will stay higher than pre-panic prices.
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Prices went down after the last panic. I remember it being $32-$36 for a box of 357 range ammo. I was paying $16-$25 through December of last year. So it went down 30-50% but it took a while. Only once the supply was normalized did the prices really drop. Was it as cheap as 2007? Well have you ever heard of inflation? Of course not. But it did drop quite abit.

If the fascist laws proposed by the wannabe tyrants who disgrace the name of the city, Sacramento, get passed concerning ammo...no, prices, at least via taxes, will be high for CA. You would be talking about a $25 excise tax on a brick of 22lr...let us see, pre-panic, $15, even less....the tax would be more than its cost!
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I disagree that ammo will not go down in price in general.

If you are talking about the gougers on ammo sales, for SURE. Who wants to pay $100 for a stupid box of Federal 22LR/qty 525 when they USED to be $23-25.

If you are talking about the prices of ammo at Walmart - they are pretty much in line with pre-panic prices. Some are even cheaper. IF YOU CAN FIND IT. And they are now enforcing a 3 box limit.

Big5 is still gouging. I've always hated them (for other reasons).

LGS are stuck in the middle. Some have raised prices to limit sales. Some have just kept their prices about where they were a year ago and never have stock... ( the old supply and demand chart comes to mind ).

Most places that sell reloading supplies have raised their prices 20-30% but I think this has more to do with limiting hoarding.

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Yes, it will. I have my significant stash of sub $0.20/round brass 9mm and I expect it will get close to that again - it may be the end of the summer, but it will get there.
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Yes, it will. I have my significant stash of sub $0.20/round brass 9mm and I expect it will get close to that again - it may be the end of the summer, but it will get there.
Why do you think that? Just curious. Past trends?
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Walmart still sell ammo at Pre-Craze prices.

Everything will be ok. LGS have be screwed by distributors, marked up to supplement weak sales, and once they sell all their inflated ammo, everything will go back to a level we're used to, or a level us regular folk are willing to pay for.

A full pull out from Afghanistan for US forces will see an influx of "surplus" commonly used military type calibers.
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nope, never. It may go down a little bit but no anymore in our future. With the MAjor push from the antigunners and d frankenstien and friends since the staged sandy shooting, they aren't gonna stop for any breaks. So don't get all happy go lucky yet at all becuz the fat lady aint gonna be singing for atleast a few years. Also don't forget that we live in our own country here kommifornia, and at this moment we are screwd bad already but just need to keep on fightn along side cgf/nra/goa in hopes of better freedom.
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Why do you think that? Just curious. Past trends?
because ammo makers and retailers make money at that price. It is all about demand.
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Yes, it will. I have my significant stash of sub $0.20/round brass 9mm and I expect it will get close to that again - it may be the end of the summer, but it will get there.
Oh, you're just bragging now.. (kidding)

But I agree, if you raise the price to 25cents. 9mm has been a crap-shoot - reloads can be sub 22cents and large qty sales (in the past from like Palmetto) have been in the sub 25cent range. Wally mart loads at $10 to $11 for 50 + tax were always reasonable, I thought.

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Walmart prices have gone up about 10%. A box of 100-value pack Federal 9mm used to cost $19.97. They now cost $21.xx.
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I was at walmart looking for white box , only 4 boxes left. Myself and another guy came around both sides of the shelf and went for the few boxes of 9mm left befor I could say hi he swiped his arm across the shelf and ran to the counter with the 4 bricks of 50. Pissed of but calm I asked him if I could just get one box. He laugh and said not a chance.

This is what fellow shooters are coming to now. Many times now I have split the last boxes with the next guy in line and this happens. This is why I started this thread. Just to let off some smoke I guess.
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I was at walmart looking for white box , only 4 boxes left. Myself and another guy came around both sides of the shelf and went for the few boxes of 9mm left befor I could say hi he swiped his arm across the shelf and ran to the counter with the 4 bricks of 50. Pissed of but calm I asked him if I could just get one box. He laugh and said not a chance.

This is what fellow shooters are coming to now. Many times now I have split the last boxes with the next guy in line and this happens. This is why I started this thread. Just to let off some smoke I guess.
No - that is what the noob resellers are doing. I've been there with fellow shooters and most divvy up what's left.
I still don't understand the noob resellers with 8 posts, no iTraders. They are making $20 a box on a few boxes. Most don't shoot because I've tried to trade for ammo with the noobs... They want CASH. F-em.

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Old 04-18-2013, 4:09 PM
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It will drop. Anyone saying differently is full of BS. It probably won't come down to where it was (although it might temporarily), but it definitely will come down to a lot less than what it is now.

Ammo manufacturers are cranking out this stuff like crazy. Now that the Fed bills have been effectively smacked down for the time being, all the people in the free states will start easing up. The last second panic buyers will start running out of expendable money and credit card balances. And eventually the ammo that's being made will hit the shelf at post-panic rates, while a majority of the country shifts back to pre-panic buying habits, realizing they won't need to hoard. The flippers will slowly stop duping people into paying insane prices.

It probably won't be in the next month or two, but I would say by the fall time frame we'll start seeing a lot of that surplus again for very reasonable prices.
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Last time we went through this "panic" (2009), it took 8-10 months for thing to calm down and price to return to normal. I don't think any of the Federal laws they trying pass will happen, but with all the crazy anti-gun laws CA is trying to pass, I would not be surprised to see ammo in CA to stay high for quite a while.
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Yes! As soon as the government outlaws all guns it should drastically drop in price.
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yeah prices and supply will go down sooner than people think. Bubbles don't deflate, they burst. Just check luckygunner.com. It's 1 in the morning and they still have 22lr and 9mm in stock. A couple weeks ago that supply would have been gone in literally 20 minutes or less. Demand is dropping and so will prices as inventory increases. Local walmarts shelvs may been barren for a while, but I"m sure online cheap ammo will be here soon.
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No..... manufacturers saw what people were willing to pay, SO... I'm guessing it will stay higher than pre-panic prices.
I disagree here, because there are many manufacturers working in competition. If the prices stay high simply because people are willing to pay it, but the cost to manufacture is still relatively low (which it is), then somebody will come along and sell for less. That's how it always happens, so long as there isn't market-wide price-fixing. But that usually hurts businesses; if the industry decides to price-fix at the current prices (which is also illegal) they'd be limiting who could buy their products, and pricing some out of the market. Someone would figure out that selling 5 boxes at 100 is not as good as selling 50 boxes at 25, assuming that each box costs only a few bucks to turn out. Those numbers are just for illustration; I'm not claiming any knowledge of what things actually cost to make.

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No..... manufacturers saw what people were willing to pay, SO... I'm guessing it will stay higher than pre-panic prices.
To my understanding, the manufactures have been selling their ammo at the exact same price as before. It is the distributors/resellers that are selling at a higher price due to a high demand and a low supply. If this is true, the manufacturers are making the same per round pre-panic as they are now.

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I was at walmart looking for white box , only 4 boxes left. Myself and another guy came around both sides of the shelf and went for the few boxes of 9mm left befor I could say hi he swiped his arm across the shelf and ran to the counter with the 4 bricks of 50. Pissed of but calm I asked him if I could just get one box. He laugh and said not a chance.

This is what fellow shooters are coming to now. Many times now I have split the last boxes with the next guy in line and this happens. This is why I started this thread. Just to let off some smoke I guess.
Next time walk up behind him. Remind the cashier of the 3 box per customer per day rule. If he doesn't care, calmly encourage him to or ask to speak to a supervisor. Not being a dick to the cashier or anything but an asshat hogging all the ammo and not even willing to let a fellow shooter have a box is giving us all a bad name.
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There are numerous federal laws againt price fixing, colusion of Mfgs to keep prices high. When volumes of ammo comes available again after the Feds get their fill, prices should come down, if not, there is room for a class action.
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The prices will drop once supply caught up with demand. But probably won't be back to the level before the crazies started. For us Kalifornians, the politicians will tax and license us to make it more expensive .
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i dont think ammo will ever get cheaper than what it was prior.. from what i understand ammo went up from the last panic. it wil come down from the gouging prices but not from the stores side
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To my understanding, the manufactures have been selling their ammo at the exact same price as before. It is the distributors/resellers that are selling at a higher price due to a high demand and a low supply. If this is true, the manufacturers are making the same per round pre-panic as they are now.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Actually, after thinking about it, I think you are right!
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Maybe once the supply fulfills the ridiculous DHS order (which our taxes are paying for) and most of the TRUE PANICKERS have their thousand rounds to sit in the basement. Then the demand will drop to normal and all those guys who took out payday loans to buy and flip ammo can sit on their ammo and cry (not really likely but whatever!)

Remember some newbies (like OP, no offense) who are knew to the sport think that ammo is supposed to cost this much, so they'll pay it.

Case in point, my friend just bought a 10/22 (he overbid on it on gunbroker!) and bought 100 rounds of "Eley" .22 for .... $30 !!!!! 100 rounds of that stuff should have cost like $4.

He bought it because we're going to an Appleseed shoot. I told him I'd give him a box of 500 bulk fed (which I paid $16 for pre-panic) but he bought those two tiny boxes anyway. Paying twice as much for 1/5 the amount is going to get really old soon. But again, newbies just buy at whatever the price.


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because ammo makers and retailers make money at that price. It is all about demand.
But they'll make more money if they produce more ammo, even if they have to lower prices to do it. And if the current makers don't produce more, other makers will step in to take advantage of the increased profit margins until... we're back to market equilibrium.

At the moment, ammo makers are running three shifts to restore inventory to pre-panic levels. They will eventually succeed, just like they succeeded after Obama's election in 2008 when the same nonsense happened.
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I was at walmart looking for white box , only 4 boxes left. Myself and another guy came around both sides of the shelf and went for the few boxes of 9mm left before I could say hi he swiped his arm across the shelf and ran to the counter with the 4 bricks of 50. Pissed of but calm I asked him if I could just get one box. He laugh and said not a chance.

This is what fellow shooters are coming to now. Many times now I have split the last boxes with the next guy in line and this happens. This is why I started this thread. Just to let off some smoke I guess.
IMO, a sad reflection of our society
...self centered arrogance.
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The truth is no one will be able to answer this question. No one will know. Trends are trends but what created such trends will unlikely be the same drivers this time around. There are so many factors to pricing and supply/demand (other events, politics, etc. can affect ammo prices) so people can only guess and hope but it will be crap-shoot anyways.

Sorry, but that's the truth. The good part is that we will eventually know, and it will be 20/20 in hindsight.
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As to the factories running full bore ... well ammo is like chips and/or crack. If you supply ammo, people will shoot, the more they shoot, the more they might like to shoot and the more ammo they will buy. If they restrict ammo output so that people can't get ammo easily/cheaply, then they'll shoot less or give up on the sport. People won't go to USPSA/IPSC matches because they are "hoarding" their 200 rounds. Therefore, they don't consume.

For the factories, it makes most sense to crank it out in volume.
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LOL, so to sum up this entire thread;

Yes, No, I dunno, sure, no way, maybe, could be, probably, no way, never, it's Obama's fault, blame Canada, yes, yes, no, maybe, onion rings. That's in no particular order.
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But they'll make more money if they produce more ammo, even if they have to lower prices to do it. And if the current makers don't produce more, other makers will step in to take advantage of the increased profit margins until... we're back to market equilibrium.

At the moment, ammo makers are running three shifts to restore inventory to pre-panic levels. They will eventually succeed, just like they succeeded after Obama's election in 2008 when the same nonsense happened.
You seem to be disagreeing with me, not sure why.

Go draw a S/D graph. Not only can ammo makers make more money by producing more, they can make less, and vice versa.

And, it is not nonsense. It is perceived demand. You will pay more for gas if the gauge is on empty, and you want to get somewhere, than when it is on full.
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LOL, so to sum up this entire thread;

Yes, No, I dunno, sure, no way, maybe, could be, probably, no way, never, it's Obama's fault, blame Canada, yes, yes, no, maybe, onion rings. That's in no particular order.
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Today I bought 2000 rounds of various .22 LR for an average of .09 per round so yes, at least .22 ammo is getting a bit cheaper. I don't think it will ever get back down to the .04 per round prices we had a year or two ago though.
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