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Old 04-07-2013, 7:47 PM
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Went to On Target a couple of weeks back and had to wait for a rifle lane (they gave the last one to a young couple just ahead of me in line that were only shooting pistol, kinda irked me). While I was watching and waiting a few minutes for my lane to open up I noticed the young lady standing back as far as possible from her guy with her hands touching her muffs - clearly not very comfortable.
I drew the lane right next to the couple. When I was setting up it was even more obvious that she was not enjoying the experience and she had yet to try and shoot. So I did something very out of character for myself - I interrupted them and ask her if she found it loud (which she confirmed) and asked if she wanted some plugs to go under her muffs. She was hesitant so I kinda "insisted" and gave her a fresh pair from my bag and sent her out to put them on. I saw that her husband was shooting a brand new compact M&P 9mm (was still using the blue box as a gun case) - NOT an ideal first gun for her. I asked him if they wanted to use my Ruger MkIII and told him to just give me a few rounds of 9mm to trade for the .22 she would shoot. He accepted and she ended up having a very pleasant first shooting experience instead of what looked to be heading for a train wreck. She was literally beaming and gave me a hug when pointing out the head shots she landed

I share this not to pat myself on the back but to remind the other "old men" out here to remember to watch for where we can help make things better for those new shooters - even if it means going a bit out of your way or out of your comfort zone. Remember that to that newbie in the next lane YOU are 100% of "the people that shoot guns" that they have encountered. Here in the People's Republic of California we need every person we can get to view our sport and hobby positively!
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Old 04-07-2013, 8:30 PM
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Good Job Sir

the more the better IMO and especially when it comes to females.. I find them usually to be a bit shy of firearms in general..
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I don't know how old you consider older, I'm 59 and tend to help people when it is really obvious. I once saw a kid shooting and wincing every shot, his ear plugs were hanging out of his ears. I went over at range break and handed him some new plugs. I asked if he would like see how plugs are supposed to be inserted. He said yes, so I showed him. I got ready to leave, he thanked me and shook my hand. In parting I told him, you don't get used to loud noise, you lose your hearing and just can't hear any more.
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To the OP - excellent job, well done!

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Great job. It's usually a good idea to educate any new shooter even if its for safety reasons or showing them how to correctly hold a gun. It can make or break there shooting experience.
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I agree with all the above as long as it is done with humbleness and respect. I have seen the same with negative results because the "old timer" came across as all knowing and down talking.
respect and tact are key.

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great job. if everyone was a little more observant and sensitive the community would be much better off.

we don't need to be all up in each others business, but that was a good example of when offering mild advice isn't intrusive.
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Good story. Range kindness and generosity are indeed rarities.
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Old 04-08-2013, 7:02 AM
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OP-Good Job! I always have a .22 LR to loan out when I go to my range just for that purpose. I have also ran into a situation where the lady was trying to shoot a DA revolver that's trigger pull was so heavy she could not pull it with out canting the gun and missing the target. I loaned her one on mine with a lighter trigger pull and all her shots went into the black.
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I was at the United Sportsmans range near Concord, Ca and was shooting 4 different Walthers on the pistol range. I had some hangup malfunctions and raised my hand for the range assistant to come over and clear the weapon for me. It was a Walther 22LR TPH. He asked me if he could fire off a few rounds to test and he was beaming ear to ear. I told him to use the other loaded magazines I had on hand. He was enjoying himself and told me what a sweet little gun. He also recommended other types of ammo to use to help prevent those problems.
The person next to me was looking and asked about the Walthers. We traded; I used his Colt 45 Remington Rand, and he used my Walther 22LR TPH for a few rounds.
A good day was had by all!!
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Why did you have to raise your hand to have someone else clear your gun? Is that just how it works at that range?
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good job, you saved the day for her. good to hear there are kind people still out there!
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Why did you have to raise your hand to have someone else clear your gun? Is that just how it works at that range?
I find that unusual as well. I definitely don't want any range ninja RSO to put his ratclaws on my weapons. I can clear my own malfunctions (rare as they are) thank-you-very-much. Take your tactical beard and tactical hat to the other end of the range with the women and kids.
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I find that unusual as well. I definitely don't want any range ninja RSO to put his ratclaws on my weapons. I can clear my own malfunctions (rare as they are) thank-you-very-much. Take your tactical beard and tactical hat to the other end of the range with the women and kids.
LOL, ratclaws!
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Great job OP.
Good people are still out there! I knew it!
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awesome job OP, i love mingling with range folks, a guy in a nearby range kept asking me questions about my AR and eventually I asked him if he would like to try it, he had a blast and made his day, always cool to make range friends
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I find that unusual as well. I definitely don't want any range ninja RSO to put his ratclaws on my weapons. I can clear my own malfunctions (rare as they are) thank-you-very-much. Take your tactical beard and tactical hat to the other end of the range with the women and kids.
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Why did you have to raise your hand to have someone else clear your gun? Is that just how it works at that range?
The slide was jammed open and there was a round partially in the chamber and I didnt want to mess with it knowing that maybe the range people didnt want me to keep trying to clear it without them being present.I just wanted to be on the safe side in all repsects and let them deal with it, figuring if there were any problems; gun going off, it would be in their hands and not in mine.
That was a decision on my part and I am not sure if those are the range rules. upon reading the rules and regs I dont think there is anything in regards to that.
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Good job!!
And you got a hug too awesome!
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I find that unusual as well. I definitely don't want any range ninja RSO to put his ratclaws on my weapons. I can clear my own malfunctions (rare as they are) thank-you-very-much. Take your tactical beard and tactical hat to the other end of the range with the women and kids.
I am one of those RSO's with ratclaws and bonnie hat. I will not touch your firearm without asking permission, unless you are doing something unsafe. If your firearm is having a malfunction I will approach and ask if you need any assistance. I normally have a full set of tools and a cleaning rod for removing squib loads, stuck cases etc. Yea I know some RSO's can be ****.
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Well done sir.

I do my best to help new shooters who seem uncomfortable when I see them. I've seen too many boyfriends take their gf's to the range for the first time and just sort of sit back smugly as their girl takes their first shot and the handgun nearly flies out of their hand.

On my last trip to LAX, I saw two separate instances where two female shooters were unsure of their grip and asking for advice to no avail. I sat back and watched quietly until I saw them put their thumb behind the slide.

Not wanting to be witness to someone losing a thumb, both times I asked the husband and boyfriend respectively, if they would mind me giving some advice. I showed them how to properly grip the handgun, and how NOT to get your thumb chopped off by the slide.

Later, in the parking lot as I was putting my guns back in my car one of the couples came up to me and thanked me. I told them it was my pleasure and I hoped that they had fun.

Anything that we can do to make shooting more fun and safe for everyone (including ourselves!) is a plus in my book. I'm just passing forward all the help I've gotten over the years as I've been learning.
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Good job OP that takes some balls. If some stranger would've started talking to my wife at the range I would've kicked his jaw in took his gun and shoved it up his *** and asked him if he found that loud. But that's just me....
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Good job OP that takes some balls. If some stranger would've started talking to my wife at the range I would've kicked his jaw in took his gun and shoved it up his *** and asked him if he found that loud. But that's just me....
Insecure much?
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I am one of those RSO's with ratclaws and bonnie hat. I will not touch your firearm without asking permission, unless you are doing something unsafe. If your firearm is having a malfunction I will approach and ask if you need any assistance. I normally have a full set of tools and a cleaning rod for removing squib loads, stuck cases etc. Yea I know some RSO's can be ****.
Yeah, that's what I was taught too. Never touch someone else's firearm unless they are about to do something stupid.
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Insecure much?
More of a respect thing. I have no quarrel with another man speaking to my wife, but if I'm standing right there the man should approach me not my wife.
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(was still using the blue box as a gun case)
What's wrong with this? I've been shooting for years and still use the manufacturers boxes. Am I the only one?
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I find that unusual as well. I definitely don't want any range ninja RSO to put his ratclaws on my weapons. I can clear my own malfunctions (rare as they are) thank-you-very-much. Take your tactical beard and tactical hat to the other end of the range with the women and kids.
Yes, but there are a lot of newer shooters who can have trouble clearing a jam. I'd much rather see them raise their hand for help than hope no one notices and leave a live round in the chamber while people are down range changing targets .. if you range works that way.
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More of a respect thing. I have no quarrel with another man speaking to my wife, but if I'm standing right there the man should approach me not my wife.
So you're saying that your wife is your property and someone needs to ask your permission before talking to her? Wow!
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Good job OP that takes some balls. If some stranger would've started talking to my wife at the range I would've kicked his jaw in took his gun and shoved it up his *** and asked him if he found that loud. But that's just me....
WOW!

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Nice Job OP! Agreed that this is how we can ensure further participation in our obsession sport.

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Good job OP that takes some balls. If some stranger would've started talking to my wife at the range I would've kicked his jaw in took his gun and shoved it up his *** and asked him if he found that loud. But that's just me....
And then there is this... Bodily harm threatened to some stranger for talking/helping your wife. Classy.
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Went to On Target a couple of weeks back and had to wait for a rifle lane (they gave the last one to a young couple just ahead of me in line that were only shooting pistol, kinda irked me). While I was watching and waiting a few minutes for my lane to open up I noticed the young lady standing back as far as possible from her guy with her hands touching her muffs - clearly not very comfortable.
I drew the lane right next to the couple. When I was setting up it was even more obvious that she was not enjoying the experience and she had yet to try and shoot. So I did something very out of character for myself - I interrupted them and ask her if she found it loud (which she confirmed) and asked if she wanted some plugs to go under her muffs. She was hesitant so I kinda "insisted" and gave her a fresh pair from my bag and sent her out to put them on. I saw that her husband was shooting a brand new compact M&P 9mm (was still using the blue box as a gun case) - NOT an ideal first gun for her. I asked him if they wanted to use my Ruger MkIII and told him to just give me a few rounds of 9mm to trade for the .22 she would shoot. He accepted and she ended up having a very pleasant first shooting experience instead of what looked to be heading for a train wreck. She was literally beaming and gave me a hug when pointing out the head shots she landed

I share this not to pat myself on the back but to remind the other "old men" out here to remember to watch for where we can help make things better for those new shooters - even if it means going a bit out of your way or out of your comfort zone. Remember that to that newbie in the next lane YOU are 100% of "the people that shoot guns" that they have encountered. Here in the People's Republic of California we need every person we can get to view our sport and hobby positively!
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Good job OP that takes some balls. If some stranger would've started talking to my wife at the range I would've kicked his jaw in took his gun and shoved it up his *** and asked him if he found that loud. But that's just me....
Liar.

Because if you would actually do as you claim, you'd get arrested, go to jail and spend thousands (if you actually had it) trying to remain out of jail.
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More of a respect thing. I have no quarrel with another man speaking to my wife, but if I'm standing right there the man should approach me not my wife.
Insecure indeed.
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Good job OP. I'm not sure I would have had the courage to do as you did - but your story inspires me so that hopefully I will next time.
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Very nice of you sir. A gentlemen did the same thing for me, when i first introduced my girlfriend to shooting.He let her shoot his ar chambered in .22, and i let him shoot my 6.8.
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I am one of those RSO's with ratclaws and bonnie hat. I will not touch your firearm without asking permission, unless you are doing something unsafe. If your firearm is having a malfunction I will approach and ask if you need any assistance. I normally have a full set of tools and a cleaning rod for removing squib loads, stuck cases etc. Yea I know some RSO's can be ****.
Thank you. I am a member at Burro Canyon and there have been some total A--h--- RSOs there but most are very good and friendly.
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