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View Poll Results: Which connectors will fit into an RJ-45 (ethernet) jack?
USB Type A 0 0%
USB Type B 1 12.50%
All of the above 2 25.00%
None of the above 5 62.50%
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Old 04-04-2013, 4:31 PM
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Default Whoever designed the USB type B plug, I want a word with you

The USB type B plug is a really excellent mechanical fit to the RJ-45 (ethernet) jack, such as those found on the back of networked printers. And when this plug is inserted into said jack, there is no electrical connection whatever, causing endless profanity to be uttered by the end user when the printer fails to be recognized by the computer.

So electrical designers, in the future, when designing computer cabling, let's please look at making the plugs physically incompatible with other similar jacks that may be in use on the same equipment? Thanks.

Yes I know I should have turned the equipment around and actually looked before inserting the plug into the wrong jack. Story of my life.

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Old 04-04-2013, 4:37 PM
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Then there's the type a connecter, you got a 50/50 chance to plug it in the right direction. Yet somehow you always do it wrong.

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Then there's the type a connecter, you got a 50/50 chance to plug it in the right direction. Yet somehow you always do it wrong.

This too, hacks me off about USB.
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Old 04-04-2013, 5:17 PM
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LoL. But does a type b fit in and give you the resistance when it goes in? Or does it feel kinda sloppy (which just SCREAMS WRONG HOLE!) ??


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LoL. But does a type b fit in and give you the resistance when it goes in? Or does it feel kinda sloppy (which just SCREAMS WRONG HOLE!) ??
Felt just like the regular USB Type B Jack upon insertion. I swear I spent 45 minutes trying to debug the dang printer driver. Cursing Microsoft all the way. "Why can't printers just work?," I yelled, pounding the desk.

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and if you are doing it by feel, sometimes you will stick that B plug into the ethernet port and twist it thinking that you are 90* off because it didn't feel like it was in right. And that twisting action will bend the pins in the port and now you get to bend them back straight so they might work when you do plug in an ethernet cable.
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Had to fix about 5 printers which had been "plugged in" to the ethernet port with USB cables. One cable even fell out and dropped behind the desk. I only realized later that a cable already was in the computer side and just needed to be in the printer.

Not the worst cable design ever but it is pretty bad.
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Last 16 years I've wondered about the intelligence and the "having a clue" regarding engineers and the management that decides what to build. Silicon Valley is described as the largest collection of Autistic people on the planet. Sure seems it....I remember first time I used a word processing program, had to name the file. It was a letter to someone, their last name was 10 letters long, so put that in the file name box and hit enter. Of course nothing happened. Got one of the secretaries, she looks and says I can only have 8 letters in a box that will hold 12....how that got built, I'll never understand.
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Last 16 years I've wondered about the intelligence and the "having a clue" regarding engineers and the management that decides what to build. Silicon Valley is described as the largest collection of Autistic people on the planet. Sure seems it....I remember first time I used a word processing program, had to name the file. It was a letter to someone, their last name was 10 letters long, so put that in the file name box and hit enter. Of course nothing happened. Got one of the secretaries, she looks and says I can only have 8 letters in a box that will hold 12....how that got built, I'll never understand.
8spaces for the filename, one for the period, and 3 for the filetype? that equals 12.
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8spaces for the filename, one for the period, and 3 for the filetype? that equals 12.
This was in '85, it was 8 characters, total. You put anymore than 8, program wouldn't move until you got it to 8 or less. Wish I knew what WP it was.
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LoL. But does a type b fit in and give you the resistance when it goes in? Or does it feel kinda sloppy (which just SCREAMS WRONG HOLE!) ??


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Firewire for the win.

Beta videotape was better too.

Look when you insert unless you know the machine or person really well.
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same goes for hdmi and display port.
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LoL. But does a type b fit in and give you the resistance when it goes in? Or does it feel kinda sloppy (which just SCREAMS WRONG HOLE!) ??


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As an IT admin ive seen some stuff.

Believe it or not usb cables can be stuffed into rj45 ports...

75 foot hdmi cables stapled into ceilings and run to projectors with an output of 1024x768 max.

Network cabling guys that were too lazy to put an end on a cable so punched them down at both ends then charged the client for 200 3 foot ethernet cables...

48 volt poe adapters plugged into 24 volt devices.

3.5mm to rca audio cables then back to 3.5mm...

Its funny how much people will do to work around something when a 2 minute phone call would resolve weeks of problems and a day of my troubleshooting time.
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