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Old 04-01-2013, 4:48 PM
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Post 2013 CA AB 711 (Rendon) Lead Ammo // Ref. to Comm. on Water, Parks, & Wildlife

I didn't see an official thread started for this bill so I thought I would create one.

Below is the text of a release that will be issued by our office tomorrow about AB 711 through A statewide alert from the NRA is expected follow sometime this week.

The Hunt for Truth website was created to provide gun owners with up to date information regarding the push for expanding the lead ammunition ban in individual states as well as well as at the national level. Hunt for Truth dispels the myths about lead ammunition and explains the scientific evidence that we have gathered which refutes the theory that lead ammunition is the source of wildlife issues. Furthermore, by exposing the truth behind the campaign to ban the use of lead ammunition as a politically bias agenda based on faulty science, we hope to educate our visitors about the legal aspects of the lead ammunition ban campaign and keep our visitors up to date with the latest news on what’s occurring at the scientific and political stages.

To view the full Hunt for Truth alert complete with links to the text of the legislation, the video of the August 2012 Fish and Game Commission meeting, and direct links to contact each of the committee members, please click here:

From the alert:

Proposed Lead Ammunition Ban Legislation Seeks to Avoid Scientific Scrutiny by Circumventing Fish & Game Commission’s Review

On February 21, 2013, Assemblymember Anthony Rendon (D-Lakewood) introduced AB 711. If passed, AB 711 would ban all hunting with lead ammunition in the entire state of California. Several neo-environmental groups are pushing AB 711, despite NRA and CRPA having demonstrated that existing lead ammo bans have not been effective in lowering blood-lead levels in condors, and despite the debunking of some of the key scientific papers used to justify the existing lead ammunition ban for hunting condor zone. Proponents of AB711 are using faulty scientific papers — where researchers have been found to be hiding underlying data and avoiding further peer scrutiny — to achieve their agenda of banning lead ammunition, and even hunting, altogether.

Lead ammunition ban proponents argue their science proves that lead ammunition causes lead poisoning in California condors and other wildlife. At their urging, in 2008 AB 821, a lead ammunition ban in the California condor zone, was hastily enacted. AB 821 was introduced in the legislature in 2007 in order to circumvent the critical scientific evaluation that was being done by the Fish & Game Commission (Commission), where serious scientific inquiry into the actual source of lead poisoning in condors was underway. AB 821 was passed by the legislature, while the Commission was excluded from that review process, based on a promise from its proponents that the lead ban would stop lead poisoning in condors. But AB 821 has done no such thing.

Now it’s deja vu all over again. Supported again by radical self-proclaimed environmental organizations, an expanded lead ammunition ban was introduced in the legislature this year via AB 711, because in August 2012 the Commission refused to expand the current lead ammunition ban in the condor range. Why? Because a serious scientific inquiry into the actual source of lead poisoning in condors was again underway!

At that August 2012 Commission meeting, NRA and CRPA presented evidence showing the AB 821 lead ammunition ban in the condor range was not effective. Condor blood-lead levels have continued to rise despite the lead ammo free “condor zone” that was in place since 2008, and despite the California Department of Fish and Wildlife’s confirmation that 99% of California hunters have been complying with the lead ban since it was enacted. Compounding the problem, multiple condors have died from lead poisoning since AB 821 went into effect. These facts strongly suggest that an alternative source of lead in the environment is poisoning condors!

As a result of the NRA and CRPA’s presentation at the August 2012 meeting, then-Commissioner Sutton suggested the formation of a working committee to determine whether lead ammunition was actually the real source of lead poisoning in condors and other wildlife. NRA representatives were to be members of that committee. Then-President Jim Kellogg admonished the anti-lead ammunition groups for using AB 821 in 2007 to go around the Commission in order to advance their agenda – despite the lack of sound science to support it. At the August 2012 meeting Kellogg asked the groups to “allow us the opportunity to try to make this work before you go to the legislature and get a bill going. That’s what rushed it through the last time. Give us an opportunity [to address this issue] first.” To watch this hearing, view the video [here]. Sadly, Kellogg’s plea to these organizations was ignored, and AB 711 was the result.

Through the working committee on lead poisoning in condors, the Department and the Commission are ready to investigate both sides of the lead ammunition debate, and to make an informed decision based on the facts and sound science. But before the working committee even started, the lead ammunition ban proponents disregarded the Commission’s admonishment, circumvented the Commission’s committee process, and convinced a legislator to introduce AB 711 in the legislature, where the science will not be scrutinized.

Lead ban proponents have no intention of stopping with a ban on lead ammunition. Humane Society President and CEO Wayne Pacelle has stated, “We are going to use the ballot box and the democratic process to stop all hunting in the United States. We will take it species by species until all hunting is stopped in California. Then we will take it state by state.”

The Audubon Society is also pushing AB 711. Their involvement raises conflict of interest concerns because the current Executive Director of Audubon California is in fact, Commissioner Sutton. Sutton was recently elected President of the Commission, and is responsible for forming the working committee to investigate the real source of lead poisoning in condors. Though President Sutton has said, “Most of us [on the Commission] feel it is inappropriate to use the presidency as a bully pulpit for your views,” Sutton nonetheless did noting to stop his organization from co-sponsoring AB 711, which will side step the Commission’s scientific investigation into the real source of lead poisoning in condors and other wildlife.

It is not hard to figure out why these lead ban proponents introduced AB 711. The facts and the science do not support an expansion of the current lead ammunition ban. Under the heightened scrutiny from the Department or Commission, where “the science has got to make sense or else you’re not going to sell the rest of us [on a lead ammunition ban], that’s for darn sure.” (Commissioner Rogers at the August 8, 2012 meeting) they fear their junk-“science” will be seen for what it is, or is not. So now these agenda driven groups intend to avoid serious scientific scrutiny by instead arm-twisting the politicians in the legislature.

This is exactly how they were able to obtain the initial lead ammunition ban (AB 821), which has scientifically been proven to be a failure.

AB 711 has been referred to the Assembly Committee on Water, Parks, and Wildlife. Please contact the committee to voice your opposition to this unwarranted and politically-motivated attack on traditional ammunition!

Stay tuned to and, for alerts on this bill and other dangerous pieces of legislation being considered in Sacramento.

California State Assembly Committee on Water, Parks and Wildlife
1020 N Street, Room 160
Sacramento, CA 95814
Telephone: (916) 319-2096
Fax: (916) 319-2196
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