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I got a RWS Diana 48 in .22". Sidelevel spring-action, 8.5lbs, 900fps. It is one solid German air rifle, beautiful beech stock, crisp trigger, very accurate, and hits hard.

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Airforce Talon

Wow thats neat.. any more pics? How fast does it fire? Is that a paintball styled CO2 canister?
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I got a couple of FWB CO2 177 pistols....cheap to shoot. And a Beaman R1 for the rodents
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I supplement my firearms addiction with airguns.

I highly recommend the Benjamin Marauder .22. The .25 is awesome but it's my experience the .22 is more accurate and versatile.

I went all out and topped it with a Hawke Sidewinder 30 Tactical SF 8.5-25x42. The Airmax scopes are nice too.


With 3 PCP guns I invested in a shoebox compressor which makes filling my tanks/guns a snap.

I set up a 25 yard range on the side of the house - the guns are nearly silent, all you hear is the ping of the hammer hitting the valve. The impact of the pellet is the loudest noise.

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Fatherland security just ordered 2 trillion rounds of pellets and BB's. I can see the headlines tomorrow.
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I'm contemplating purchasing a better quality airsoft pistol for target practice. I already have a break action pellet rifle that I'm using.

It just seems easier to practice at home a bit more, fundamentals are fundamentals.
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Old 04-14-2013, 12:35 AM
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In my opinion the PCP air pump ones are the best for hunting. Very silent and extremely powerful. However they do make for terrible plinkers. Its like 100 pumps for 20-30 good shots. Not fun unless you got a scuba tank to refill it.

I like the springers myself, less reliant on air source. Its a single heavy cock per shot but you can shoot as long as your arms allow. RWS, Weihrauch, Beeman, Benjamin Trail, Cometa, Air Arms seem to be the higher quality but be prepared to pay.

Crossman, Hatsan, Gamo are middle quality.

Any of the Chinese made ones at walmart are low quality. Also note a lot of them get rebranded to popular models like Ruger, Winchester, Browning so pay close attention where they are made.
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I got a RWS Diana 48 in .22". Sidelevel spring-action, 8.5lbs, 900fps. It is one solid German air rifle, beautiful beech stock, crisp trigger, very accurate, and hits hard.

Powered by my elbow. Will last a life time.


Very nice - I'm so close to getting an RWS M34. Leaning towards this Pro Compact scoped model. Click on image for details...

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Interesting thread, I too have been debating a pellet rifle for a number of reasons besides ammo. In a SHTF situation, I'd rather have pump pellet rifle and a small cast for pellets for small game hunting and save my real steel for defense.

Besides that it would be fun to have a small plinker pack gun around. I really like the size of the Airforce TalonP PCP... but its a PCP, not a pump. Anyone know of a more compact .177 or .22 carbine size that's spring or air-spring powered?


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I'm contemplating purchasing a better quality airsoft pistol for target practice. I already have a break action pellet rifle that I'm using.

It just seems easier to practice at home a bit more, fundamentals are fundamentals.
I would recommend any of the KWA PTPs for this. I have a M9 PTP and it is so similar to the real thing its almost scary, and its accurate and powerful.

http://kwausa.com/professional-training/kwa-m9-ptp
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Honestly, this PCP rifle gives me a schoolboy grin.

Benjamin Rogue

.357 cal pellet @ 1000fps

electronic valve for different operating pressures

will take 90gn - 175gn pellet

Best of all, its relatively quiet


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I love airguns and own a Colt Defender (410 FPS), a Colt Special Combat 1911 (400 FPS), an IWI Jericho 941 (480 FPS), a Umarex Steel Storm (BB Sub Machine Gun with a single and six shot burst selector with a claimed velocity of 430 FPS), a Crosman 357 10 Shot pellet revolver (430 FPS), a Gamo Sporter 500 (750 FPS Break Barrel) and a Crosman Phantom (1200 FPS break barrel) and I just participated in the new season of the TV Show American Airgunner that will air on the Pursuit Channel on July 3rd 2013. I love both airguns and firearms, but as of right now I am saving my firearm ammo and plinking with .177's. When I was on the show, we got to shoot some larger caliber airguns too and they really blew my mind, hopefully maybe I'll get one, one of these days
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I am not promoting these nor do I own one but just for information here's a website for some Chinese air rifles that are tuned by one of the icons of the air rifle sport. http://www.flyingdragonairrifles.org/

I just happened across this site from reading a post on rimfirecentral.com and thought I would share. Personally I just ordered one of the used Daisy 853 air rifles from CMP, they seem to get good reviews for a low powered rifle.
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Honestly, this PCP rifle gives me a schoolboy grin.

Benjamin Rogue

.357 cal pellet @ 1000fps

electronic valve for different operating pressures

will take 90gn - 175gn pellet

Best of all, its relatively quiet

That Rouge has Power! I would love to try that one out one day, it's far out my price range though. How is the loudness of it?
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There are airguns to fit every taste. The wife and I set up a range on the back of the property this past weekend to shoot our vintage "Shooting Star" pneumatic carnival tommy gun--she ran 1500 rnds through it, grinning the whole time. Full-auto fun with a total ammo cost of .39 cents!
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What caliber was the tommygun? .177 or .22? There's a .22 Pellet SMG out there from Air Ordinance, it's 500 bucks, has a 100 round belt and reaches velocities up to 700 FPS, I believe and than there's a .22 pellet gun called the BMG which is a bit bigger, also has a 100 round belt and shoots at 1000 fps. Both these guns are from independent companies so they're both really pricey. When I was at the American Airgunner thing, I talked to the Director of UmarexUSA and told him about these guns and said that it would be cool if such a thing would be able to get mass produced and in that way the prices would go down
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I just got a Daisy 753 (upgraded sights/stock compared to the 853) louder than expected - but tolerable even for indoor shooting. I have a little target box with backstop in the garage and shoot down the hallway into it.

Buddy and I are going to start our own little private 10m competition.

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Loco45: the Shooting Star carnival guns are designed for #1 chilled lead shot - it is a common misconception is that they use #2 and we were shooting #2 which worked fine. The original Feltman carnival tommy guns were designed to use #1 lead shot, and are more accurate with the proper size shot. Even at current lead prices, we used less than a bucks-worth!
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I am not promoting these nor do I own one but just for information here's a website for some Chinese air rifles that are tuned by one of the icons of the air rifle sport. http://www.flyingdragonairrifles.org/

I just happened across this site from reading a post on rimfirecentral.com and thought I would share. Personally I just ordered one of the used Daisy 853 air rifles from CMP, they seem to get good reviews for a low powered rifle.
Surprisingly these Chinese ones are pretty expensive for low powered rifles... You could get 1200fps rifles at big5 or Walmart for ~$100 range
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This is a Crosman Phantom, Break Barrel .177 caliber with a claimed velocity of 1200 FPS. I have chronographed it to 1050 to 1100 FPS with Crosman Premier Hollow Points and 1250 FPS with alloy pellets. It's a very accurate gun, great for target shooting, plinking and hunting small game. I paid 80 bucks for the rifle and 60 for the scope (I forget what brand it is, but it's a pretty good scope though and does it's job) and I've also installed a custom trigger that has a trigger pull of about 1.2 pounds.
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for $350.00 this piece looks really appealing and quiet.

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That one looks nice too, but I think personally I'm not big on PCP's because if things were to hit the fan and you need a quiet small game gun, a pump pneumatic or a break barrel will be more dependable. PCP's are a lot of fun to shoot though, my favorite I've ever fired was a Evanix Rainstorm 3D Bullpup in .25 caliber. It was super accurate, kind of loud and real fun, but way out of my price range though...
(http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Evanix...D_Bullpup/3032)
One thing I've been looking at is the Crosman Doomsday Bug Out Air Rifle Kit
(http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Crosma..._Kit_2289/2913). The gun packs just enough punch to knock down small game and from what I've seen, it's very accurate too...
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Anyone switching to airguns?
Switching? No.
Supplementing? Yes.

I have a Beeman R1 I got in a trade back in '98 and until this year I think I put maybe 10 pellets through it. Past 2 months during BLM land cleanups, Ive shot about 200. At a penny a shot or two cents per if you shoot the good stuff, it has worked its way into my shooting schedule.

Calm weather yields bottle cap sized groups at 50 yrds. A decent wind will kill those groups tho.

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Beeman sure does make nice rifles!
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Actually, Beeman has their high end rifles made in Germany by Weihrauch. Part of Beeman's marketing since their inception is importing rifles with their name on them. As an example, The Webley Patriot is the same rifle as the Beeman Crow Magnum. They do have some very nice rifles in their line-up, and the older models still command good resale values providing they are kept in good shape. Another solid brand is Air Arms for both springer and PCP rifles.
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Yeah, I've seen a few Air Arms and if my memory serves me right, I think I've fired one and if it's the one I'm thinking about it was a very accurate rifle. I'm glad to see there's quite a few people here on Calguns that like airguns too... It's the cheapest way for trigger time right now, ammo is always available and there's all kinds of calibers for those who like to do more than target practice, like go hunting everything from small to large game, depending what caliber is used.
Here's a pic of the Sam Yang Sumatra .25 Cal. They make these in a few different calibers and the biggest one is the Dragon Claw in .50 Cal, a real bad boy right there... Anyway here's the .25 Cal
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Anybody have any experience with the Crosman Optimus in .22 cal? I think I might add it on my to get list...
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http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/outlaws.html

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Those Quackenbush guns ain't no joke. I've seen hunting vids of them taking out Bison with them. They're kind of big though, I personally think I would rather go for the Dragon Claw instead if I were to purchase a big bore PCP rifle. But really right now I'm more in the process of getting a .22 or .25 cal break barrel. Not sure which yet though, I don't have a huge budget and I already own like 2 Magnum springer .177 cal break barrel rifles..
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I just picked up this Benjamin Trail N/P for $150.00. These are actually
whisper quiet.
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I fired the Benjamin Titan in .22, looks very similar to the Trail NP. Those nitro pistons are really nice and perform really well too. The one I used had a custom 1.2 pound trigger though, it was really smooth. Hey Calguns, it seems like we got a few airgunners here, maybe you guys can add a Airgun section so that we don't have to go off topic in the rimfire section. Just a thought.
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Here is an easy fix for the Crosman trigger. The second vid {not linked} shows him firing the rifle.

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I just ordered a nice air rifle in .22cal and it should be here next week.

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Be careful turning your backyard into a range. Check your local ordinances, some cities don't allow bb guns or pellet guns to be discharged in the city. A nosy neighbor could result in a visit by officer friendly.
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Here's a video I made of the Benjamin Titan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xipwN4ichU
I'm not an air rifle expert, but I love to shoot and I just put my own little twist on my videos.
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.25 is much better in the Marauder. I have over 1000 rounds, $20.00. Plus it's super accurate, back yard friendly, quiet as a mouse fart and no recoil. Get one.


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Interesting, why the .25 instead of .22? Noise level? Range?

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Lol.. Bc pigeons and squirrels will sustain you through any crisis?? .22lr is soooo cheap normally.. Would be much more practical
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You can't use a .22 LR in the neighborhood so no a .22lr is not much more practical. Don't underestimate airguns, there are some real serious ones out there and range from small bores to big bores. A good .22 springer can be used for small game hunting while a big bore PCP air rifle can be used for big game hunting and the big bores pack a lot harder punch than a .22 LR. Also it's still a lot cheaper to target practice with a .22 air rifle than a .22 LR. You get 500 rounds of .22 cal pellets for 8 bucks and you can plink, target shoot or get small game all day and also if you want to buy a good magnum springer or high powered PCP, you don't need background checks, no 10 day waiting period, no registration and the gun you want can be ordered online and shipped to your door, www.pyramydair.com is a real good site to get the guns at, but if your city prohibits airguns like San Francisco does, than your kinda out of luck. And before I get knocked for saying I believe a .22 air rifle is more practical than a .22 LR, I own a .22 LR and I love it, but I can't shoot it in my backyard and right now there's hardly any ammo out there either.

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You can't use a .22 LR in the neighborhood so no a .22lr is not much more practical. Don't underestimate airguns, there are some real serious ones out there and range from small bores to big bores. A good .22 springer can be used for small game hunting while a big bore PCP air rifle can be used for big game hunting and the big bores pack a lot harder punch than a .22 LR. Also it's still a lot cheaper to target practice with a .22 air rifle than a .22 LR. You get 500 rounds of .22 cal pellets for 8 bucks and you can plink, target shoot or get small game all day and also if you want to buy a good magnum springer or high powered PCP, you don't need background checks, no 10 day waiting period, no registration and the gun you want can be ordered online and shipped to your door, www.pyramydair.com is a real good site to get the guns at, but if your city prohibits airguns like San Francisco does, than your kinda out of luck. And before I get knocked for saying I believe a .22 air rifle is more practical than a .22 LR, I own a .22 LR and I love it, but I can't shoot it in my backyard and right now there's hardly any ammo out there either.
Yes I agree that a airgun can be shot in your backyard.. But I was referring to the posters remarks about using it for "prepping"... Any "prepping" situation that may come up (ie SHTF) I think shooting a .22lr in your backyard fr hunting purposes would be the least of your problems... Plus what kinda hunting are you going to do in your backyard anyway?? Most of your "hunting" would be in rural areas anyway..
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