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Old 03-23-2013, 1:41 PM
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Not sure why they told you the M&P9 was hard to take apart. It is a BREEZE to take it apart.
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Old 03-23-2013, 1:48 PM
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The deciding factor for me in choosing an MP9c rather than a Glock 19 was trigger reach. Without twisting my hand into a very unnatural grip I simply cannot correctly position my finger on the trigger. I'd like to try a Gen 4 Glock, but of course here in Calif. that isn't a practical and cost-effective option. If you have small hands, the MP9 is really the only choice.
A handgun with a $599 price tag isn't a cost effective option?

Take a few things into consideration.

1. GEN 4's come with a third magazine, which normally cost $25-$30, but are currently going for $40-$50 each.
2. The improved grip texture is perfect vs. buying grip tape/sleeves (which suck) or having the grip stippled (which is risky and/or expensive.
3. The improved magazine release is also perfect vs the GEN 3 extended mag releases, which suck & tack on another $25+.

Pay an extra $75-$100 for an SSE'd GEN 4, and you're actually money ahead & you can keep your gun stock.

You like what you like, and that's all gravy, but $600 for a brand new, quality handgun sure seems reasonable to me. I get Blue Label GEN 4's for $425, but I'd still spend the extra money on the GEN 4 if I had to. Having owned over a dozen Glocks, both GEN 3 & 4, the only ones I've kept are the GEN 4's.
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Old 03-23-2013, 3:27 PM
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I have both a G19 gen 2 and an M&P9, both are great guns. That being said, I can't stand the finger notches on the Gen 3 g19, it is extremely uncomfortable for my hands.

I will say that the M&P has a much better trigger with just an Apex hard sear. The M&P is also more ergonomically friendly to my hand (I like 1911's). That being said, my G19 will soon be on my CCW/LTC.

Here is the Apex hard sear which made my M&P trigger 10x better than the g19

https://apextactical.com/store/produ...php?pid18.html

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Old 03-23-2013, 4:09 PM
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Turners just unsold me lmao! Told me the GLOCK is easier to take apart and proven! So guess Ill leave my deposit on the GLOCK for god knows how long before they ship! I put a deposit on the Remington 870 express tactical $379
Great pickup (and price!) on the 870 btw
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Old 03-23-2013, 4:51 PM
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Old 03-23-2013, 5:24 PM
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Old 03-23-2013, 6:08 PM
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Go Sig, you don't have to worry about trigger changing, sight changing, or accuracy. Easy decision.

Now that I got that off my chest, its like everyone says, rent them and shoot them. Im not a Block fan. I like their reliability, but hate the way they feel. I a can't hit ***** with them. Now the M&P on the other hand is my favorite popular pistol to date. You can get a really high grip on them and they have a lower profile (or it seems that way). I can shoot an M&P really well, not saying I'm good at shooting, but out of these two, the M&P hands down.

Its personal preference though
Good luck and remember training solves everything. Including bad trigger pull.
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Old 03-23-2013, 6:11 PM
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Old 03-23-2013, 7:06 PM
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If you can't hit stuff with a Glock than you need to take your own advice and get more training.
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Old 03-23-2013, 8:41 PM
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Why would I train with a glock if I can hit stuff with everything else.
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Shot both yesterday at the local range. The M&P was better all around. Just my opinion.
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Old 03-23-2013, 9:24 PM
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Why would I train with a glock if I can hit stuff with everything else.

You're blaming the gun for your lack of precision.
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Old 03-23-2013, 9:25 PM
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My vote: GLOCK 19
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Old 03-23-2013, 9:52 PM
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If you had to pick just one 9mm....only one...Glock19.

PRO: Reliability, durability, less parts, most common 9mm handgun so it's easier to find parts..LIFETIME warranty.

CON: Looks ugly, if you have big hands the grip may be slightly shorter than you would prefer, only safety is the trigger safety. (all opinions)

My second one is the Springfield XD 9mm (4"). Reliable, durable, trigger safety and grip safety, lifetime warranty, grip is slightly longer and feels awesome for my big hand.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:15 PM
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You're blaming the gun for your lack of precision.
I do not believe I blamed my lack of percision on anything. I simply stated I can't hit anything with a Glock. They don't fit my hand well and I don't like the way they shoot. I also stated that I don't own or have the desire to own and train with a Glock. There is no statement in there that states a Glock is inaccurate.

But I'm sure we all appreciate your input on helping the OP choose the proper firearm for himself... oh yeah, you didn't.

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Old 03-23-2013, 10:47 PM
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I made my decision easy and bought both.
Good one. Now which do you prefer?
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Old 03-24-2013, 9:33 AM
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Turners just unsold me lmao! Told me the GLOCK is easier to take apart and proven! So guess Ill leave my deposit on the GLOCK for god knows how long before they ship! I put a deposit on the Remington 870 express tactical $379
You need to shoot both a lot. No one on any forum or in any store can tell you which you're going to like better or which works better for you. This coming from someone who would take a 9mm Glock over a 9mm M&P any and every day. I've shot the M&P 9 and I quite honestly don't understand why people like it so much, but I still say you need to decide for yourself by shooting them. Rent both and shoot a few hundred rounds through each, then decide.
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Old 03-24-2013, 9:47 AM
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Old 03-24-2013, 2:27 PM
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I used to not like the grip on my G23. I shot an M&P 9 and really liked the ergonomics so I ended up buying one. While I was waiting the 10 days I put some Talon grips on my glock and now I prefer the grip on my glock. I'm waiting for my Talon grips to arrive for my M&P so who knows. Maybe when I have some grip on my M&P I'll like it more. Right now, however, I like my glock more because of the trigger and grip.
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Old 03-24-2013, 7:40 PM
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Glock 19! have a good day!
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Old 03-25-2013, 1:50 AM
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Glock 19!!!!
I picked the Glock because of its resume.. It can't be beaten! The Glock works.. I owned Berettas before that.. Took about a month to get used to carrying with out asafety.. And my control was much better after 1 class.. I've shoot m&p's and xd's.. Don't like either.. But that's just my opinion.. Btw every pistol I pick up I can hit my target... Have good day and enjoy what ever you get...
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Old 03-25-2013, 2:14 AM
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I have both. The M&P is my favorite. Hands down.

The trigger on my M&P is much better than the one on my Glock. I don't get all the trigger hate on the M&P. Just shoot the darn thing and enjoy it.
I think the trigger hate comes from the crunch you feel in them. I got my wife the M&P .40 full size. Love the grip ergonomics. Put a set of Talon pink grips on it for her. Looks real sweet, But that crunch/grindy trigger sucks! Sounds similar to two peices of sand papper rubbing together. Does not affect how it shoots but man you can hear and feel it. Now only put 50 rounds thru it so it may smooth out but have read and seen articles/videos of people complaining about the same issue. Other than that for me its an awesome weapon. Down side I cant work on them like I can a Glock. If I dont like the trigger in a Glock push a few pins out and change it. The M&P on the other hand no way. **** load of parts and roll pins. Wouldnt even attempt it. looking to put an apex trigger in the M&P soon but again will have to pay someone else to do it..
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With all the comments here if anyone wants to sell me a gen4 g17 In the bay area (reasonable price) let me know!

Wish I never shot one... I still like the M&P9 full size but it's gonna cost me an extra $$$ to fix the reset.....

Damn this hobby/sport... No,No, noooooo..... I blame CA!!!!!!



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Old 03-25-2013, 8:23 PM
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I think the trigger hate comes from the crunch you feel in them. I got my wife the M&P .40 full size. Love the grip ergonomics. Put a set of Talon pink grips on it for her. Looks real sweet, But that crunch/grindy trigger sucks! Sounds similar to two peices of sand papper rubbing together. Does not affect how it shoots but man you can hear and feel it. Now only put 50 rounds thru it so it may smooth out but have read and seen articles/videos of people complaining about the same issue. Other than that for me its an awesome weapon. Down side I cant work on them like I can a Glock. If I dont like the trigger in a Glock push a few pins out and change it. The M&P on the other hand no way. **** load of parts and roll pins. Wouldnt even attempt it. looking to put an apex trigger in the M&P soon but again will have to pay someone else to do it..
Try this sear by Apex. Extremely easy to install and it makes the trigger much better than any stock Glock trigger. It gets rid of all of the "crunch/grind" you posted about.

https://apextactical.com/store/produ...php?pid18.html
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