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Old 03-20-2013, 12:08 PM
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WTF is right. . . .

What is going on around here?!

Criminals, crazies, resisting arrest, drugs, battery, straw purchases, etc...

Shut The Front Door
That's what I was thinking, too!
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Look into expungment. It essentially wipes away a conviction. Not sure if it would help here, but it might.
1203.4 makes a felony a misdemeanor EXCEPT for gun purposes. You need a 17b for that. Doubt it applies here though.

As for military HSC exemption, only active duty, active reserve, and retired count.
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its a 10 year prohibition. and espoungment doesnt count towards firearm possession.
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its a 10 year prohibition. and espoungment doesnt count towards firearm possession.

it is my understanding that even if misdemeanor battery conviction is 'set aside' through petition by defendant in court of conviction, the 10 year firearms prohibition still stands in california, based on california law.

OP would be best served to consult with an attorney for further clarification and assistance.
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Say someone with the same exact record was to move here from another state in which they could and did purchase firearms. What then? What happens when they register their handguns via mail? Or a LEO runs his record while shooting his rifles on BLM land?
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:54 AM
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There's always airsoft?
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or get into airsoft?
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Look into expungment. It essentially wipes away a conviction. Not sure if it would help here, but it might.
In CA, expungment is just a dismissal of conviction and he would still have the 10 year hold. Expungement in California does help getting a private sector job easier. Doesn't help him buying a gun though cause DOJ will still see that conviction.

Now if he had a felony that was a wobbler he could ask the court to reduce it to a misdemeanor after the terms of probation/sentencing are complete which would restore said persons gun rights as long as the crime was non-violent.
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WTF is right. . . .

What is going on around here?!

Criminals, crazies, resisting arrest, drugs, battery, straw purchases, etc...

Shut The Front Door
Yeah, I am sorry but does this household need to posses a firearm? Just put my flame suit on:0
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Yeah, I am sorry but does this household need to posses a firearm? Just put my flame suit on:0
I'll grab the marshmallows because I'm going to agree with you here.
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I think there's a background check on airsoft, paintball, and pellet gun purchases.
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I'm OK with a 10-year hold for a battery conviction as well. Prove to society you've reformed your violent tendencies and you can legally be entrusted with a firearm again. I do hope OP will investigate further and make sure the denial was based on legitimate circumstances, although his own admission here makes it sound likely.
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OP that suck.. Hope you find a way to do it..
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As for military HSC exemption, only active duty, active reserve, and retired count.
Yep California thinks a retired Air Force desk jockey is more knowledgeable about weapons then a Marine Combat Veteran that gets out short of retirement.
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WTF is right. . . .

What is going on around here?!

Criminals, crazies, resisting arrest, drugs, battery, straw purchases, etc...

Shut The Front Door
I was thinking the same thing. Time for the op to consider fly fishing or golf.
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Yep California thinks a retired Air Force desk jockey is more knowledgeable about weapons then a Marine Combat Veteran that gets out short of retirement.
One would assume that, but in reality, that is not always the case.
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Am I really reading this right?

The OP has a history of violently beating people and his wife has a history of illegal, schedual one drug use/possession AND they think they should be able to own firearms????
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Am I really reading this right?

The OP has a history of violently beating people and his wife has a history of illegal, schedual one drug use/possession AND they think they should be able to own firearms????
You posted exactly what I was thinking.
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WTF is right. . . .

What is going on around here?!

Criminals, crazies, resisting arrest, drugs, battery, straw purchases, etc...

Shut The Front Door
The lurking LEOs are running thin on entrapment scenarios. Next post will be by the Governor of Woodbury who keeps his zombie daughter on a chain in the closet.
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You posted exactly what I was thinking.
Good.

So, you won't have a problem if we discuss YOUR personal history then. Since you've never made a single mistake in your life, you have the ability to judge whether or not someone should own a gun.

Sometimes, the difference between the guy going to jail and the guy in the jury box is that the latter hasn't been caught yet. Im certain everyone here's broken the law at some point and gotten away with it. Should that be grounds to disarm the entire website membership then?
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Hmmm, let's see. I have a clean record. passed many DOJ checks.
FYI I don't have to judge whether or not the OP can own a gun, the DOJ has already done that.

Stop being so melodramatic.
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Good.

So, you won't have a problem if we discuss YOUR personal history then. Since you've never made a single mistake in your life, you have the ability to judge whether or not someone should own a gun.

Sometimes, the difference between the guy going to jail and the guy in the jury box is that the latter hasn't been caught yet. Im certain everyone here's broken the law at some point and gotten away with it. Should that be grounds to disarm the entire website membership then?
I'm not saying I'm an angel or anything but I never battered anyone. The OP also states that he will try to get his wife to purchase it who resisted arrest, was drunk in public, had an illegal drug on her, and was placed in a mental hospital for 72 hours for a "mental episode". That is quite a bit more than your average gun owner on here. I don't see their life choices being responsible enough for owning a firearm just yet.
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The lurking LEOs are running thin on entrapment scenarios. .
What entrapment scenarios are you referring to? Reality not tinfoil.
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^^^^ Don't answer that Fate. It's a trap.
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Why do I feel like this might be a troll thread?
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Why do I feel like this might be a troll thread?
Because it probably is.
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WTF is right. . . .
What is going on around here?!
Criminals, crazies, resisting arrest, drugs, battery, straw purchases, etc...
Shut The Front Door
Did you forget the restraining order? Sorry OP, that's a long list of stuff, it doesn't sound good.
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I'm not saying I'm an angel or anything but I never battered anyone. The OP also states that he will try to get his wife to purchase it who resisted arrest, was drunk in public, had an illegal drug on her, and was placed in a mental hospital for 72 hours for a "mental episode". That is quite a bit more than your average gun owner on here. I don't see their life choices being responsible enough for owning a firearm just yet.
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Did you forget the restraining order? Sorry OP, that's a long list of stuff, it doesn't sound good.
No he covered the "RO" when he mentioned "crazies"...
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Just looked at the disqualifying factors for the state of California: http://igundealer.com/finalgraphics/...sdemeanors.pdf. My wife's convictions do not fall under any of these categories nor the federal. We are going to try to purchase the gun in her name.

Don't do it.
Below is a link that is on point. See section 15 - describes what a straw purchase is under federal law.

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Am I really reading this right?

The OP has a history of violently beating people and his wife has a history of illegal, schedual one drug use/possession AND they think they should be able to own firearms????
You forgot the wife's 5150 hold as well.

Yeah... Sounds like a whole lotta crazy goin on there.
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Quite possible the pot conviction might prevent her from owning firearms. I do know that if you have a Marijuana Medical Card you cannot own firearms.

Misdemeanor convictions of domestic violence is a lifetime ban. I would consult an attorney.

Also, you might have mutual ROs and not realize it. Sometimes a Judge will grant an RO against both parties to keep people apart. That would prohibit you.
I was not aware of that. My gf has MS and has her card for her disease and is getting her handgun transferred into her name from her ex-husband(divorce not final yet) bought for her a few years back. I hope she doesn't get denied.
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I was not aware of that. My gf has MS and has her card for her disease and is getting her handgun transferred into her name from her ex-husband(divorce not final yet) bought for her a few years back. I hope she doesn't get denied.
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interesting because I know people who have medical cards but have bought guns since 2011
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I was not aware of that. My gf has MS and has her card for her disease and is getting her handgun transferred into her name from her ex-husband(divorce not final yet) bought for her a few years back. I hope she doesn't get denied.
if your GF uses a little bit of pot every now and then to help with her MS i hope she can still get the pistol. Pot is an infraction without a card and no crime with a card.
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if your GF uses a little bit of pot every now and then to help with her MS i hope she can still get the pistol. Pot is an infraction without a card and no crime with a card.
In California.

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