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Old 03-26-2013, 5:57 PM
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Yes I've searched but was unable to find exact answers to my questions. If someone with (recent, since the law changed) experience can help it would be appreciated.

We're planning to leave tomorrow and stay the night.

Since my AZ CCW is pretty much my new ice scraper for cold winter mornings, I would like clarification on the following.

As a CA resident, can I:
1. Loaded open carry?
.....a. In bars and casinos (not while drinking)
.....b. Walking around OUTSIDE casino? Street, 7-11, Stores etc.
.....c. In hotel - restaurant, halls, anywhere that is not the bar or casino?
.....d. In vehicle?
.....e. In Cabelas?
.....f. Virginia City?

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Hopefully this will help someone else with similar questions
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Old 03-26-2013, 6:48 PM
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If you open carry you're gonna get unwanted attention. I think that LOC is legal, but based on what I gleaned on the Nevada Shooters forum a while back it may be considerably less common than it is in some other states, particularly in non-rural areas. I have no idea how much of that is true; open carry never interested me, so I haven't paid much attention to the issue. Cue the "stop tellin' a guy not to exercise his rights" crowd...

Continuing, last I checked, you could possess a loaded handgun in a vehicle in Nevada without a license, as long as it wasn't concealed on your person. That's based on memory; I haven't really looked into it thoroughly since I have not had any reason to leave CA since before I got my LTC.

Check into this further for authoritative info. I would use whatever you get here as a starting point, but you really need to check the laws directly too.
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Old 03-26-2013, 7:22 PM
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As a CA resident, can I:
1. Loaded open carry?
.....a. In bars and casinos (not while drinking)
.....b. Walking around OUTSIDE casino? Street, 7-11, Stores etc.
.....c. In hotel - restaurant, halls, anywhere that is not the bar or casino?
.....d. In vehicle?
.....e. In Cabelas?
.....f. Virginia City?
1. Yes, it is legal for a non-prohibited person to open carry a loaded firearm in NV.

a. Yes, it is legal to open carry in a bar and in casinos. It is also legal to possess a firearm while drinking, as long as your BAC is below 0.10. However, bars & casinos are private property and the owner/operator of private property can ask you to leave for whatever reason. Failure to leave, can result in a trespassing citation/arrest. See c for more info.

b. Yes, it is legal to open carry outside of private property and on public streets.

c. Posted "no weapons" signs have legal weight; when posted on Gov owned/operated property, schools, colleges/universities and child care facilities. Therefore, it is not legal to carry within or on those properties. Posted "no weapons" signs have no legal weight; when posted on private property (bars, restaurants, casinos, hotels, malls, stores, etc). Therefore, it is legal to carry within or on those properties. However, the owner/operator of private property can ask anyone to leave for any reason (including carrying a firearm). Failure to leave when asked, can result in a trespassing citation/arrest.

d. Yes, it is legal to open carry a loaded handgun and an unloaded long gun (rifle/shotgun) in a vehicle. It is not legal to have a loaded long gun (rifle/shotgun) in a vehicle. It is also legal to have a loaded handgun concealed in the vehicle, as long as it is not "concealed upon the person". "Concealed upon the person" mean on the person or in a portable container (purse, bag, case, pack, etc) near the person. Exemptions to this are having a valid conceal carry permit and the firearm being unloaded & in a locked container.

e. See c.

f. See c.
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Old 03-26-2013, 7:24 PM
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LOC is legal throughout Nevada although, if memory serves, Clark County has somewhat different requiremnts from the rest of the state. Frankly, when I go to Las Vegas I am not in a position to be carrying a firearm. The urban areas are not used to the sight, but the rural areas are. Casinos will undoubtedly order you to leave and then you would have to or risk a trespass charge. Otherwise all you will get is strange looks or a visit from the popo due to a 911 call.
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Thanks for the info and confirming for the most part what I figured.
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Due to the ease of getting a NV CCW (I have one), LOC is very uncommon. It will get you unwanted attention and I wouldn't recommend it.
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In addition to the great info posted here, some research has led me to believe that although Scheels is gun friendly, the owners of the property are not.
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1. Yes, it is legal for a non-prohibited person to open carry a loaded firearm in NV.

a. Yes, it is legal to open carry in a bar and in casinos. It is also legal to possess a firearm while drinking, as long as your BAC is below 0.10. However, bars & casinos are private property and the owner/operator of private property can ask you to leave for whatever reason. Failure to leave, can result in a trespassing citation/arrest. See c for more info.

b. Yes, it is legal to open carry outside of private property and on public streets.

c. Posted "no weapons" signs have legal weight; when posted on Gov owned/operated property, schools, colleges/universities and child care facilities. Therefore, it is not legal to carry within or on those properties. Posted "no weapons" signs have no legal weight; when posted on private property (bars, restaurants, casinos, hotels, malls, stores, etc). Therefore, it is legal to carry within or on those properties. However, the owner/operator of private property can ask anyone to leave for any reason (including carrying a firearm). Failure to leave when asked, can result in a trespassing citation/arrest.

d. Yes, it is legal to open carry a loaded handgun and an unloaded long gun (rifle/shotgun) in a vehicle. It is not legal to have a loaded long gun (rifle/shotgun) in a vehicle. It is also legal to have a loaded handgun concealed in the vehicle, as long as it is not "concealed upon the person". "Concealed upon the person" mean on the person or in a portable container (purse, bag, case, pack, etc) near the person. Exemptions to this are having a valid conceal carry permit and the firearm being unloaded & in a locked container.

e. See c.

f. See c.
Clarification on item "d" - long guns can have a loaded magazine/tube in a vehicle but cannot have a round loaded in the chamber.
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Old 03-28-2013, 6:12 AM
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NRS 202.3673 is where you can and cannot carry. NOTICE it applies to CCW.
We have NO open carry laws. It is simply NOT prohibited so therefore lawful. The guidance comes from other firearm laws which state you must be legally in possesion ie age, not a criminal etc.
NO WEAPONS only exist in 202.265 which is educational facilities.
Even in PUBLIC buildings we don't prohibit firearms only concealed carry and only under specific requirements. So OC is legal in some of those buildings.
EX I have to personally go into DMV every year for smog exemption cert. and registration. I simply unconceal (it's December) they used to freak and escort us to the next available window unfortunately they just let us sit now. The last time 2 NHP officers came into the smog shack stood there as I finished. The only thing said was good morning.
Not all OC days are that easy but it is lawful and while not extremely common in Reno it does happen.
Private property signs have no weight of law on the gun side only the tresspassing if asked to leave AND you refuse.
Casinos and the property will not let you carry, if they see it you are going to be asked to either secure it in your room, with security or leave. They do not like guns on there property. It goes for even the most die hard gun loving properties where the security directors and the owners are gun people. I know some personally and as clients.
The exception to this rule is Virginia City there if you play the part you attract positive attention. Walk around like a gunslinger hat boots and cowboy rig and let the fun begin. No one cares if you wear a modern rig but they won't be as interested in you and friendly.
Transportation is correct above.
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More great info. Thanks. It's locked in the room safe right now. I sure felt naked last night without it.
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