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Old 03-02-2013, 8:12 PM
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I picked up my PPT pistol today and took to the range. Can anyone give me an idea why the slide lock would engage after every shot instead of when the magazine is empty? The gun is pretty accurate. But slide locks every time. Bought it from a fellow CalGunner and hope he would not have sold me a Lemonhttp://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...1&d=1362333449
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Old 03-02-2013, 8:18 PM
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Did you try more then one mag? Same issue with different ones?

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Old 03-02-2013, 8:24 PM
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4 different mags. All the same thing. Shot, lock, Release,shoot, FTC, clear, shoot, lock, release, shoot lock. Every time.
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Old 03-02-2013, 8:33 PM
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4 different mags. All the same thing. Shot, lock, Release,shoot, FTC, clear, shoot, lock, release, shoot lock. Every time.
I have a couple of these...

First thing I would ask is if the magazine is dropping from pressure being applied to the mag release. While I do like these guns, the location in which they put the mag release (and the mechanism as to how it works) was a very poor design. I have experienced problems similar to this, but not from every shot fired.

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The spring seams right. I had people over when I got home and didn't get a chance to strip it but it seem to me as long as a shell is still in the mag this should not happen.
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When I manually activate the slide with a full mag and release the lock does not engage.
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I have a couple of these...

First thing I would ask is if the magazine is dropping from pressure being applied to the mag release. While I do like these guns, the location in which they put the mag release (and the mechanism as to how it works) was a very poor design. I have experienced problems similar to this, but not from every shot fired.

Yeah.... I have had a few WTF moments only to realize the mag popped out cuz I pushed the release

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Well after stripping the 22A and pulling out about a 5gl bucket of gunk. I pulled off the handles and found the lower cracked in half at the trigger pin. The only thing holding the lower together is the trigger guard. I am lucky the thing didn't blow apart in my hand while firing. My question is it worth sending it to try and get a new lower?
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Old 03-03-2013, 9:08 AM
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Well after stripping the 22A and pulling out about a 5gl bucket of gunk. I pulled off the handles and found the lower cracked in half at the trigger pin. The only thing holding the lower together is the trigger guard. I am lucky the thing didn't blow apart in my hand while firing. My question is it worth sending it to try and get a new lower?
The 22A-1 has a lifetime warranty with S&W, however I don't know if it only applies to the original owner. Worth a phone call to S&W. Good luck. I hope the person who sold it to you was unaware of this, if not then he/she is verified dirtbag.
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Seems to be a common fail point on those pistols, a few examples on google that look exactly like yours.
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That was my first pistol. I quickly traded it for a small outboard motor
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My 22a frame broke at the trigger pin. Called S&W they sent a shipping label for FedEx. I am not the original owner. A couple of weeks later it was returned. I sent in the barrel and they replaced it as well.
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I have one too! For the money it's a great pistol. No problems with mine yet and I have about 4,000 rounds through it.
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Jimdecarlo is giving me hope S&W might do the right thing. Question now is if I can get them to fix it will I have to jail the new frame with fees?
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Sorry about that I meant Bslacker.
Frigginchi, thanks, very detailed. Looks like S&W has been chasing this problem for a while.
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Question now is if I can get them to fix it will I have to jail the new frame with fees?
Mine came back directly to me and with the same serial number. Call S&W they will take care of you. This is a known problem.
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Thank you Bslacker
I wasn't feeling to good about myself buying this thing. I bought it without stripping it. just cycled a dummy through it, he was from the foot hill and I had to drive out from the Bay Area. It got dark on me and I had to work the next day so I didn't get a chance to check it out as well as I would have liked. If nothing else I learned a good lessen about buying used.
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Call S&W. Worst they can do is say no. The service center for CA is located in Westminster in Orange County.
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So after a 6 week wait S&W said there going to send me a new gun. (6 weeks to figure this out) in another week it may be at my FFL to start a new DROS and another 1000 DDDay WWWait. Let me see (counting fingers now) 8, maybe 9 weeks. So I guess the lifetime warranty goes like this, you might get it back in your life time. I guess I am supposed to feel lucky there fixing it at all but really another 10 waiting period?

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I picked up my PPT pistol today and took to the range. Can anyone give me an idea why the slide lock would engage after every shot instead of when the magazine is empty? The gun is pretty accurate. But slide locks every time. Bought it from a fellow CalGunner and hope he would not have sold me a Lemonhttp://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...1&d=1362333449
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Dude, that's awesome.

You purchased a used product and the company is going to stand behind its lifetime warranty even though you don't have a receipt. Sounds like a pretty awesome company to buy a product from, even after 6 weeks + 10 days to finger diddle a new gun.
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I know, it's bitter sweet, right now it's a little frustrating but once the wait is over it will be sweet.
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