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Old 03-01-2013, 5:34 PM
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Advanced apologies for the noob question and poor image quality.

Got my case from SG today. I know this is boat tail, made in 1970, but what is hidden underneath the silver paint?



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good question. posting here for tracking.

i got a sealed wood box of 2 tins before though from the 70's and even then the middle section was painted off.
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I'm not sure but the 188 is Russian and the silver means it is light ball ammo. This is what I've been told so I could be wrong.
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I'm not sure but the 188 is Russian and the silver means it is light ball ammo. This is what I've been told so I could be wrong.
Thanks for the update.

Now if only I could find a fairly priced MN to get rid of this stuff.
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The 34/69 means the 34th powder lot of 1969.

The silver stripe is 147 grn steel core.
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I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
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The 34/69 means the 34th powder lot of 1969.

The silver stripe is 147 grn steel core.
Thanks!

After poking around on google, this indeed seems the consensus. I was under the impression that all 54r is steel core, but am only 2 weeks old when it comes to being familiar w/ Mosin/54r.
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Thanks!

After poking around on google, this indeed seems the consensus. I was under the impression that all 54r is steel core, but am only 2 weeks old when it comes to being familiar w/ Mosin/54r.
There is a decent amount that wasn't steel core...pre~1960ish stuff, and late (80s-90s) Yugo stuff. Pretty much everything actually available on the market today is steel core though.

Edited to add: I'm sure you've probably heard by now to treat all surplus ammo like it's corrosive and to clean accordingly...that ammo is definitely corrosive.
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you can decode the symbols through here:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmoID01.htm#Bullets

the silver paint is not covering up anything... it is part of the identification marking and is suppose to be there. silver paint means LPS ammo = steel core light ball. the bullets will have a silver tip on it too.

Yugo, certain Chinese as well as some very early surplus 54R are non-magnetic. Russians made alot of lead core 54R but those have a bi-metal jacket so are magnetic.

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Wow I just learned more about spam cans than I thought I would ever know.
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Looks like you got a can opener, I got mine yesterday from SG as well but no can opener. Oh well.... guess a screwdriver and hammer will do. Good to know what the silver paint means, I was wondering as well.
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There is a decent amount that wasn't steel core...pre~1960ish stuff, and late (80s-90s) Yugo stuff. Pretty much everything actually available on the market today is steel core though.

Edited to add: I'm sure you've probably heard by now to treat all surplus ammo like it's corrosive and to clean accordingly...that ammo is definitely corrosive.
Good to know.

I know well enough about cleaning corrosive, but thanks for the heads up. I dont even own anything to shoot the stuff so no cleaning in my future.
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Good to know.

I know well enough about cleaning corrosive, but thanks for the heads up. I dont even own anything to shoot the stuff so no cleaning in my future.
Haha, so I guess I am not the only guy who bought ammo for a rifle I do not (yet) own
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