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Old 03-01-2013, 4:42 PM
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Default Cable Locks Keyed Alike- CA Approved?

I'm tired of going shooting with a half dozen(or more) sets of locks and their accompanying keys. Fumbling around with so many options. No to mention the hastle of not misplacing.

I was about to order a set of 3 standard locks and 3 cable locks- respectively keyed the same... Then I remembered the CA approved lock bs. That is just for purchasing of a tool, right? Aka bs state regulation to increase rev? I mean there is no way to tell that x lock is ca appoved and y lock isn't.

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Old 03-01-2013, 4:52 PM
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What are you talking about approved lock bs?

You need the lock when you buy the handgun(and that's federal, not state), you can then immediately throw it away.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Bu...es.2C_and_Laws

Go buy a case/bag/whatever, throw all of your guns in that, then lock the container with a $5 luggage lock with a combination so there's no keys to misplace.

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Old 03-01-2013, 5:10 PM
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I have one and only one CA cable lock...I returned the others the Walmart after picking up the guns.

If you have a trunk, you don't need any lock whatsoever to go shooting, the trunk counts as a locked container. And you sure as hell don't need an individual one for each gun. And in anycase, what good would it do...a handgun must either be in a locked container or trunk period. Just putting a cable lock on it means squat. You will be arrested. But in trunk, no cable lock? That is fine.
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Old 03-01-2013, 5:11 PM
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I have one and only one CA cable lock...I returned the others the Walmart after picking up the guns.

If you have a trunk, you don't need any lock whatsoever to go shooting, the trunk counts as a locked container. And you sure as hell don't need an individual one for each gun. And in anycase, what good would it do...a handgun must either be in a locked container or trunk period. Just putting a cable lock on it means squat. You will be arrested. But in trunk, no cable lock? That is fine.
Well, you've got to be able to get the guns to the trunk, could be an issue depending on your home/parking situation and whether you're in a GFSZ. But you're right, cable/trigger locks mean **** all after you've bought it.
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There is one minor issue with using your trunk as a locked container. PC states that you must transport the firearm to and from the vehicle in a locked container. Unless your trunk is portable, that can be tough to do.

Best to just get a gun rug or other case you can put a cheap combo lock on and transport that way as Merc1138 suggested.
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I got a bunch of these, a little spendy, but no keys and same combo you set, also TSA approved so you can use while traveling.

...plus they work on rifle case zipper eyelets.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WO84Z2/...0_M3T1_SC_dp_1


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There is one minor issue with using your trunk as a locked container. PC states that you must transport the firearm to and from the vehicle in a locked container. Unless your trunk is portable, that can be tough to do.

Best to just get a gun rug or other case you can put a cheap combo lock on and transport that way as Merc1138 suggested.
No it doesn't.

You can transport it to the vehicle in a gun case without a lock, or, if in a non-gun case, locked. The case doesn't have to be locked if it is designed for a gun. And, e.g., at the range or while going from your car into a gun store or gun show, UOC is legal, as one of the couple of hundred exceptions to the UOC ban
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Go cheap:
http://www.zorotools.com/g/00055973/k-G2412952/

Or even cheaper:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140913534666
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No it doesn't.

You can transport it to the vehicle in a gun case without a lock, or, if in a non-gun case, locked. The case doesn't have to be locked if it is designed for a gun. And, e.g., at the range or while going from your car into a gun store or gun show, UOC is legal, as one of the couple of hundred exceptions to the UOC ban
I am not sure this could be any more clear:

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25610. A citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years
who resides or is temporarily within this state, and who is
not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing,
receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm, from transporting
or carrying any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of
being concealed upon the person, provided that the following
applies to the firearm:
(1) The firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked
in the vehicle's trunk or in a locked container in the vehicle.
(2) The firearm is carried by the person directly to or from
any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while carrying
the firearm, the firearm is contained within a locked
container.

(b) The provisions of this section do not prohibit or limit
the otherwise lawful carrying or transportation of any pistol,
revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the
person in accordance with the provisions listed in Section
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Old 03-01-2013, 5:59 PM
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I am not sure this could be any more clear:



http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting


I think he's talking about the new long gun transport law.
Which of course, doesn't help if you're transporting handguns.
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I think he's talking about the new long gun transport law.
Which of course, doesn't help if you're transporting handguns.
25610, as quoted correctly by DVSmith, says "... any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, ... "

More to the point, the OP asks if CA cares about keyed-alike locks; the answer is no. But yes, there IS a list of approved locks. If you buy a thing in CA called a 'gun lock', it has to be on the list to be on sale.

What you cannot do is buy a set of 3 or whatever, and use those as the 'safety device' for picking up new guns forever after: those have to have a receipt showing purchase within the 30 days prior to pickup.

So, to the wiki:
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Bu...es.2C_and_Laws

Gun locks you buy to satisfy the dealer requirement have no use at all in transport (unless you can use them to lock a completely-enclosing container).

CA law doesn't care about using the locks when storing - no requirement to use or even keep them.
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Unless your trunk is portable, that can be tough to do.
Actually, my car has a portable trunk. Well, not really, as it's still attached to the rest of the car. So I just carry the whole thing inside when I need to load/unload firearms.

Kind of inconvenient, but it beats having to buy half a dozen locked cases.
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Actually, my car has a portable trunk. Well, not really, as it's still attached to the rest of the car. So I just carry the whole thing inside when I need to load/unload firearms.

Kind of inconvenient, but it beats having to buy half a dozen locked cases.
LOL - Good luck with a judge and jury buying that one. But hey, who am I to doubt your compliance with the law!
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I got a bunch of these, a little spendy, but no keys and same combo you set, also TSA approved so you can use while traveling.

...plus they work on rifle case zipper eyelets.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WO84Z2/...0_M3T1_SC_dp_1


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Do not use TSA locks on Firearm cases!
No one should be able to open your firearm case except for you.
If TSA needs it open and it's been declared as a firearm, you must be present to open the case.
If undeclared, they'll cut the lock.

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There is one minor issue with using your trunk as a locked container. PC states that you must transport the firearm to and from the vehicle in a locked container. Unless your trunk is portable, that can be tough to do.

Best to just get a gun rug or other case you can put a cheap combo lock on and transport that way as Merc1138 suggested.
The case only has to be locked if it's not designed to hold a firearm.
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The case only has to be locked if it's not designed to hold a firearm.
Or you're in a GFSZ.
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25610, as quoted correctly by DVSmith, says "... any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, ... "

More to the point, the OP asks if CA cares about keyed-alike locks; the answer is no. But yes, there IS a list of approved locks. If you buy a thing in CA called a 'gun lock', it has to be on the list to be on sale.

What you cannot do is buy a set of 3 or whatever, and use those as the 'safety device' for picking up new guns forever after: those have to have a receipt showing purchase within the 30 days prior to pickup.

So, to the wiki:
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Bu...es.2C_and_Laws

Gun locks you buy to satisfy the dealer requirement have no use at all in transport (unless you can use them to lock a completely-enclosing container).

CA law doesn't care about using the locks when storing - no requirement to use or even keep them.
Thanks- this pretty much sums up the answer I was looking for. These were my initial thoughts, but I wanted to confirm.

And yes, those cable locks I had to by I simply used to lock my rifle cases.

Now Just need to decide whether to buy the keyed alike or some combos.
Thanks again everyone!

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The case only has to be locked if it's not designed to hold a firearm.
Boy, you lost me there.

Can you please give an example and how your example conforms to PC?
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