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Hex receivers only? 7 7.00%
Non-Russian (Finnish, American, etc) 16 16.00%
91/30s? 11 11.00%
M44/38, or other, carbines? 19 19.00%
Pre-WWI Imperial Mosins? 3 3.00%
Only Mosins with laminated stocks? 3 3.00%
Other / No direction? 41 41.00%
Chinese Type 53 (M44 Variant) 0 0%
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Default Mosin Nagant collection...what's your emphasis? *version.2013*

ETA: I thought I'd bump this thread up from the grave. There has been a lot of changes on the Mosin Nagant market, so I thought this would be an appropriate time to reintroduce this thread.

So here I am currently waiting for my C&R two years after I thought about applying for one. It's been almost a month since I sent it in so hopefully it will be here in another month.

In the mean time, I had a question for Mosin collectors of all types: what do you want your collection to be like? I mean, do you have like a specific direction you want to go? Or is it luck of the draw?

When I first started, I said to myself I'm only going to have one Mosin and it's going to be a Hex receiver (because I heard people on the internetz say its more desirable). Yeah...right. That's like saying I'm only going to have one AR with no accessories.

I'm thinking I'm going to try to go the chronological route and collect one Mosin from every year of production from 1891 to WWII. If I buy only 5 Mosins a year, it should only take me 10 years to complete.

So what about you all, what do you go for?
  • Hex receiver only?
  • Non-Russian Mosins (Finnish, American, etc)
  • 91/30s?
  • M44/M38 Carbines?
  • Pre-WWI Imperial Mosins?
  • Only mosins with laminated stocks?
  • No Direction?
  • Other?
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So far:
1907 Izhevsk 91/38 (Czech rework)
1954 Romanian M44
1939 Tula 91/30 (Finnish issued)
1942 Sako M39 (1898 Sestroryetsk)

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1943 Izhevsk M38
1943 Izhevsk M91/59
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i just got my first Mosin a week ago, a 91/30 1943 Izhevsk. I want an M44 next as soon as my license comes in.
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I love the m91/30 and the M44. Now, I'm in the market for a FINNISH Mosin Nagant!!!
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I have a 1944 Russian, but really want the M39 Sako. How much do those run?
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Russians and Finns.

my currently collection of Mosins is:

1939 Tula 91/30 ex PEM sniper in a laminated stock
1940 Tula 91/30
1941 VKT M39
1942 Izhevsk 91/30
1943 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper (real, not repro)
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My plan is to stick to Russian 91/30's and just get different years and variations. Cheaper = more guns.
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I used to have a bunch, and now have a long one and a shorty, which I will keep. I sort of moved on.
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My first Mosins were standard refurbs. I cleaned them up and shot them and quickly lost interest in them. Then I found an M39, and another, and then an M27, a few M28s, and it was on. Haven't lost interest in these at all, in fact the addiction is pretty much out of control at this point. All of my focus is on Finnish M28s and 28-30s:

The 4 at the bottom of the photo are 28-30s and the rest are M28s


Here's a side view of some M28-30s with the stock cartouche on 2 of them:
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My collection thus far...

1955 Romanian M44
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My first Mosins were standard refurbs. I cleaned them up and shot them and quickly lost interest in them. Then I found an M39, and another, and then an M27, a few M28s, and it was on. Haven't lost interest in these at all, in fact the addiction is pretty much out of control at this point. All of my focus is on Finnish M28s and 28-30s:
I am curious as to what the difference for you has been? What made you lose interest in your refurbs (91/30's?)? What is is about the M27-29's that is better that keeps your interest?
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My philosphy is to get as many as i can, as cheaply as i can, and shoot the living hell out of them. Their dirt cheap, the ammo is dirt cheap, and they kick like a mule, more of a shooting gun than a collecting gun
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I just picked up a 1927 Izhevsk 91/30 a couple weeks ago.

The only thing I don't like about it is the rear barrel band doesn't stay locked in place and the bore isn't as clean as I would really like.

I guess the 1939 SIG K31 I have really spoiled my military surplus purchases.

I do want to get a Finn mosin for the beauty of the wood and the quality of the bores.
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I really want a Dragoon but it looks like Classic Arms is out. I'd be amenable to a Hex, a Laminated, or a Tula round. I like Nagants... I don't have nearly enough...
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Truth be told, I have some in every category in the poll. I guess that sort of category would be "no direction." I have more m39's than any single type, though. I like to shoot.

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I have several Mosins but my favorite by far is my M38... The most accurate? No. The most fun? Yes....

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Now my most accurate Mosin.... My 91/30...

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I don't really have a focus, but I guess you could say I collect any era Russian or Soviet rifle, and Civil Guard rifles.

I'd like to get a year-by-year collection of Soviet M44s though.
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I used to have a bunch, and now have a long one and a shorty, which I will keep. I sort of moved on.
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The only thing I don't like about it is the rear barrel band doesn't stay locked in place
pull the band spring that's in front of it out from the stock a little more.
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I collect original condition (non-refurb) Russian and Finn rifles. The Finnish M27 is one of my favorites.
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I chose 'Other'

I have 2 mosins as shooters. I don't get into the numbers/ or countries.

but a decent bore is my #1 priority. #2 is numbers matching bolt to get a bolt that cycles well.

I'm seriously thinking about doing a bull barrel (machine gun) build soon.
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I am curious as to what the difference for you has been? What made you lose interest in your refurbs (91/30's?)? What is is about the M27-29's that is better that keeps your interest?
For me it is a combination of things. The history of Finland is fascinating to me, and the fact that they were fighting communism and protecting their homeland is inspiring to me. In some areas they were outnumbered 12 to 1 and they kicked serious donkey.

I like that most of the Finn rifles were made in such small production numbers that they are much harder to find than the Russian refurbs. Some of the Finns have been rebuilt but the majority still have their original finish, which is what I prefer. I still have a few Russian rifles, but the refurbs just seem like they have been ruined. It would be like collecting cars but they have all been repainted by Earl Scheib... you can't ever bring them back to their original paint job, they will always be repaints.

The reason I have focused on the M28s and 28-30s is that they are great shooters, and they were Civil Guard rifles, so most of them still have the CG district number stamped on the barrel. You can look up the "S" number on a chart and figure out what area it was issued in. It gives you a little more history and personalizes it somewhat, to at least know roughly what battles it might have been used in.
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The Finns really are fun. There is so much history you can read on them. Shims and such. Pine needles. I like the m91 sights the best of all the styles. I like to build guns from parts. Very fun.

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The carbines I like to shoot the best so I will collect a few more of them, I also want to get a Finn or 2.
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I like example of distinct markings and designs.
Tula
Izhevsk
MO
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Hex
Ex dragoon
M44
M91/30
and etc...

I plan on updating my collection as time goes. For example, I could swap out that MO Tula Hex counterbore with a MO Tula Hex excellent bore.

Since I'm new at collecting, I haven't decided on my focus, but I love all those unique stamps.
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I have examples of the carbines (M38,M44's), and a Tikka M30. But my focus has shifted to every type and arsenal of M39. I've sold off other weapons to fund these (Enfields, Mausers, and a Hakim. That one I regret). I'm now only missing a Sky, and a no maker, no mark. Those will have to wait till after the new baby comes!
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At first I just wanted a hex and round receiver example (36 Tula and 38 Tula). Then I moved onto restoring a few snipers (35 Tula PE, 39 Tula PEM, 42 Izhevsk PU). Then I briefly thought about M91's (1916 Sestroyetsk). Then i got on the Finn wagon (27 M28 ski troop, 38 Tikka M27, 41 VKT M39).
Currently I am still looking at Finn and Finn captures only. I havent sold any Mosins but I may sell the 1936 and 1938 refurbs as soon as a Finn capture takes their place, I dont know.
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My first Mosins were standard refurbs. I cleaned them up and shot them and quickly lost interest in them. Then I found an M39, and another, and then an M27, a few M28s, and it was on. Haven't lost interest in these at all, in fact the addiction is pretty much out of control at this point. All of my focus is on Finnish M28s and 28-30s:

The 4 at the bottom of the photo are 28-30s and the rest are M28s


Here's a side view of some M28-30s with the stock cartouche on 2 of them:
Brian I think the second from the top in the group pic is messed up. You MUST have been taken on that one!!!
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I like example of distinct markings and designs.
Tula
Izhevsk
MO
Round
Hex
Ex dragoon
M44
M91/30
and etc...

I plan on updating my collection as time goes. For example, I could swap out that MO Tula Hex counterbore with a MO Tula Hex excellent bore.

Since I'm new at collecting, I haven't decided on my focus, but I love all those unique stamps.

No, really this is my game plan as well. As my income goes up I am sure so will the number and value of the guns I purchase.
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1 91/30 ex-Dragoon

Fireballs and shooting the living daylights out of the 380 Yd steel at SLOSA w/ the ex-Dragoon.
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I like all Mosins, but, the Finns are my favorite.
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You are my hero.

That's how I wish my "armory" looked like. Man, if I had the money, I'd have enough M1 Garands and M1903 rifles to arm a company! I'd need a different vault for each gun.

One can only dream...

Although some of those guys at the ODCMP forums probably have enough M1 Garands or M1 Carbines to do just that

At least I know I can accomplish my "armory" dream with Mosins
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i like laminates!! and mosins, and i would not dare to post this picture on 7.62 net

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