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Old 02-27-2013, 12:33 PM
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Default Oakland Neighbors Policing Their Own Streets As They Lose Faith In Cops

Here is a link to a news story worth reading.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...-faith-in-opd/

Budget cuts force citizens to organize and protect their own neighborhoods from criminals.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:36 PM
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I'd be doing this too if it was really that bad, except..........if it really is that bad in your neighborhood, why don't you MOVE?
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Old 02-27-2013, 3:35 PM
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Looks like things haven't changed one bit since the sixties.
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Old 02-27-2013, 4:34 PM
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I'd be doing this too if it was really that bad, except..........if it really is that bad in your neighborhood, why don't you MOVE?
Are you paying? Nice of you!
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Old 02-27-2013, 5:02 PM
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Man, can you imagine what it will be like there if the Lib-Commies get their way and ban guns altogether in CA? Scary for those folks....and the rest of us Commieland residents.
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Old 02-27-2013, 5:57 PM
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Nice houses. Seems like a new community.

That "Wanted" sign make it like the wild west. I feel sorry for them, but I'd do the same thing.
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Next thing you know, they'll be forming well-regulated militias...
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Old 02-27-2013, 6:17 PM
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Now if only the county sheriff would swear them in as posse/deputies and make it legal. I know I know...


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Old 02-27-2013, 6:25 PM
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Now if only the county sheriff would swear them in as posse/deputies and make it legal. I know I know...


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this would actually be a good idea
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Old 02-27-2013, 8:16 PM
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Since the police have effectively abandoned them, they should all be allowed to attend firearms and use of force training with the OPD or ACSO, be issued firearms and handcuffs by the OPD or ACSO, and be deputized by the ACSO.

At a minimum, they should be given Concealed Carry permits (as long as they have no felonies or mental health issues), and should be able to write all such expenses off of their taxes - since they are providing the public safety service that their taxes are supposed to be paying for.
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Old 02-27-2013, 8:24 PM
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its about time, too bad it took the residents of Oakland 40 years to figure out the police can't do everything.
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Moving isn't always an option. I'm sure if it was, many members here would be posting on Texguns.net, Arizonaguns.net or something...
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Old 02-27-2013, 9:48 PM
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Looks like things haven't changed one bit since the sixties.
It actually was getting better by leaps and bounds until Jerry Brown became mayor then their murder/robbery rate shot up 2 or 300% while he was in office.
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Next thing you know, they'll be forming well-regulated militias...
You bite your tongue! Why in the world would Americans do that!?!?
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what are the using baseball bats and whistles
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Wish them the best!
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Old 02-28-2013, 2:47 AM
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I'm sure the Illegals getting released from Prison, taking jobs "nobody wants" will help shortly. Dont worry, it'll get better soon *sarcasm*

There are streets in Oakland & Los Angeles Cops wont even travel. Dont believe me, ask a Cop!
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Old 02-28-2013, 3:25 AM
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What a silly decision...
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Old 02-28-2013, 3:36 AM
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Oh gosh I hope it's not another Zimmerman waiting to happen. I'm not passing judgment on Zimmerman or his actions but that's the last thing we need to have happen right now. We all know how the media reacts to those things.
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Old 02-28-2013, 4:27 AM
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Oh gosh I hope it's not another Zimmerman waiting to happen. I'm not passing judgment on Zimmerman or his actions but that's the last thing we need to have happen right now. We all know how the media reacts to those things.
You know what, I don't care. Aren't you sick and tired of kowtowing to the antis? Live your life, I'll live mine and if the media doesn't like it then they can go to hell.
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Old 02-28-2013, 4:57 AM
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You know what, I don't care. Aren't you sick and tired of kowtowing to the antis? Live your life, I'll live mine and if the media doesn't like it then they can go to hell.
Yeah I'm sick of the media too, It's not really the media I'm worried about it's the courts. If these people are a deterrent to crime, if they're making a positive impact that's great. As citizens we all have the right to do a citizens arrest also. However one could find themselves in a world of trouble if they're out patrolling the hood looking to be a crime stopper. Believe me I adhere to the I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6 motto. If it gets bad enough in my area you could bet I'd be on the lookout trying to protect my friends/neigbors but that day hasn't come yet.

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I am all for people helping one another out and looking out for their neighborhood. I have security cameras posted and the phone numbers of all my immediate neighbors.

That said, if I am walking on a public street I don't answer to anyone who isn't a sworn law enforcement officer. Neighborhood watch, George Zimmerman, some dude who fancies himself neighborhood guardian. If I get approached by another citizen in a negative manner they get ignored or told where to go.
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10 years and 47 weeks and counting for me
Can't happen soon enough as far as I am concerned.
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I'm thankful (knock on wood) that we live in a really quiet neighborhood in a fairly rural area but developed if that makes sense. My Irish Grandmother used to live in Oakland when it was fairly quiet as well.

I guess you just hope and pray that the area you're currently living in doesn't turn to that or hopefully you'll see it coming and do something about it.
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Old 03-02-2013, 1:54 PM
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Well, I know people that live in gated communities and they're still plagued with minor crimes such as vandalism, petty theft, etc. Nothing's safe anymore........or was it ever really safe to begin with?
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