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Old 02-23-2013, 9:41 AM
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Cool Any sighting and optics questions for Ar's and Ak's :-)

I am very happy with the side mount 45 degree Sights I put on my AR. I have a carry handle scope mount and the screw that attaches and it blocks view of regular Sights. I got the Sights on amazon for$24. A great solution fo my sighting needs and super affordable. I am Marine and a firm believer that rifles with optics need to have usable backup iron Sights because so many things can go wrong with any optic like fog, breakage exc. Definitely something to think about installing on your AR. For hunting purposes I like see-thru weaver mounts because I used to have a scope with no backup sighting system and my scope instantly fogged up because I forgot about my breathing when a big 12 point buck came out. I was able to clean the lens with a handkerchief and dropped him with 1 shot. Right after that I put see-thru mounts on. Would like to hear what you think. 1 shot 1 kill Devil Dogs!!

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I wouldnt trust my life to anything that only cost $24
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Old 02-23-2013, 4:56 PM
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How are these mounted if you have a carry handle? Handguard?
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:05 AM
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Mine has a carry handle scope mount with scope so it is mounted under the scope on the carry handle scope mount. I have regular 20 inch handgaurds and attached a weaver rail to the handgaurds and put the front sight there lines up perfect and is dead on at 500 meter and closer good one inch groups. To the Hater that posted you must not know much about AR's. I am a Marine and have been putting new quality products to the test in the field for 30 years. The Sights are steel fully adjustable and made in the US. Don't have anything nice to say keep it to yourself because I don't care about your negative opinions. Ignorance just gets people killed. To everyone else these Sights are High quality, built in the Usa, and have functioned flawlessly in the field. If my scope stopped working correctly I would trust my life to these back up 45 degree Sights. Haters aren't going to save my life and the life of my family if a home invasion takes place with multiple intruders. Just try clearing your house with a scope on 3 power. You'll die trying. Semper Fi Devil Dogs
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:38 AM
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I wouldnt trust my life to anything that only cost $24
So you would rather trust nothing then something?....

Lets just admit it that if your life depends on a BUIS system, you are screwed anyway.

All this 3-gun stuff has clouded peoples minds as to what reality is like.

Everyone seems to train for the best case scenario when life tells us will will most likely be in the worse case situation.

Here is what you are dealing with... your $500 optic sitting on your $200 mount on your $1200 rifle has just died.... you are now using your $120 rear BUIS and your $120 front BUIS against Chris Acosta and his $1200 optic on his $500 mount with his $1500 rifle.... He is going to put many many holes in you...your $220 BUIS system isnt going to help you any more then a $24 BUIS system... sorry buy thats just how life is.
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Mine has a carry handle scope mount with scope so it is mounted under the scope on the carry handle scope mount. I have regular 20 inch handgaurds and attached a weaver rail to the handgaurds and put the front sight there lines up perfect and is dead on at 500 meter and closer good one inch groups. To the Hater that posted you must not know much about AR's. I am a Marine and have been putting new quality products to the test in the field for 30 years. The Sights are steel fully adjustable and made in the US. Don't have anything nice to say keep it to yourself because I don't care about your negative opinions. Ignorance just gets people killed. To everyone else these Sights are High quality, built in the Usa, and have functioned flawlessly in the field. If my scope stopped working correctly I would trust my life to these back up 45 degree Sights. Haters aren't going to save my life and the life of my family if a home invasion takes place with multiple intruders. Just try clearing your house with a scope on 3 power. You'll die trying. Semper Fi Devil Dogs
You're getting 1" groups, with $24 BUIS, mounted on standard, non-free float handguards @ 500 yards?

Wow. Cheers to you!
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I am a Marine:-) All Marines are basic rifleman first and train on the known distance course which is 200, 300, and 500 Meters. Being a Marine Scout Sniper myself helps. I actually shoot up to 1000Meters with my tweaked in expensive current military range finging scope. I get hooked up a lot from my Friends. But, with open sights and a 20 inch barrel it is made to shoot at a point target out to 500 meters and an area target at 800 meters, poimt target being between the eyes and area target being the upper torso. For longer shots I rely on my 1962 Remington 700 in 7mm mag. I was given this gun by a old time Marine who was a Sniper in WW2, Korea, and early part of the Vietnam conflict. They were only considered advisors and his rifle was one of the first that saw action...the M-40 wasn't even made yet and he told me it was purchased right from the factory. It has checkering and everything..Gun is priceless. He died alone with no family present. I was glad to have him as a friend. May he rest in peace and be surrounded by Gods Angel Armies....because heavens gates are gaurded by US Marines;-)
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You are right on Dieselpower. We will be digging the other guys grave who just trusts his optics. Real combat is rough on equipment which all service men know. I would rather have something than nothing so I Add training with my back up sights part of my routine. If anyones interested I sell the steel back up sights. 1 shot 1 kill. Semper Fi Jar Heads:-)
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Anybody has questions about anything sight related including optics I check the forum daily.because I list stuff for sale for Ar's and Ak's Semper Fi Jar Heads 1 shot 1 kill.
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You are right on Dieselpower. We will be digging the other guys grave who just trusts his optics. Real combat is rough on equipment which all service men know. I would rather have something than nothing so I Add training with my back up sights part of my routine. If anyones interested I sell the steel back up sights. 1 shot 1 kill. Semper Fi Jar Heads:-)
You sorta missed what I am saying, and what I teach. You got the jist of it and I was commenting at the guys who think they need a $250 BUIS system in a life and death situation. Tha'ts foolish Military training that will get a civilian killed in combat.

Your best offense is directly proportional to your threats best offense, as is your defense. When on equal footing with a threat, the threat with the reduced capacity is the least dangerous to the other.

In combat you must expose yourself to attack to pose a threat to your threat. You are not going to expose your whole torso are you. No you are not. You are going to be as low as possible exposing as little as possible, as will your threat.

That means your threat must use an optic of some kind to have even a slight chance to hit you...either that or pour lead down range hoping for an area hit. So you also need that same level of optic.

Once your optic goes down, your chances to win are diminished down to near zero. You are literally dead at that point. In the Military you are canon fodder and your job is to die helping others survive or hope your team-members can cover you while you fix your gear. In a civilian capacity your mindset MUST change. You cannot have this as part of your training and those military guys who cannot alter their training will die as a result of military training.

Your threat doesn't care that you are a Scout Sniper...your threat doesn't care that you can hit a torso at 500 yards. Your threat is the size of a large grapefruit 500 yards away and has the capacity to hit a large grapefruit 500 yards away... while you with a BUIS system have almost no chance to hit them. In effect you are combat ineffective and need to run away rather then stay in the fight.

I am saying a BUIS system is STRICTLY for close range general accuracy in the civilian world when you are talking about combat.

Paying $24 for that BUIS system is fine...paying $200 for a primary system is freaking stupid and what people need to stop doing.
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A bullet wrecked my optics, and destroyed my rear sight with my back up M-16, I was in hostile territory in country alone experiencing heavy retaliation after accomplishing my mission and falling back to my designated Lz. I personally put steel $24 45 degree sights so I had 3 sighting options....I am alive today because of them!!!! 45 degree sights are not a new invention....they have been around for a long time...what is your combat experience with back up si8ghts???
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A bullet wrecked my optics, and destroyed my rear sight with my back up M-16, I was in hostile territory in country alone experiencing heavy retaliation after accomplishing my mission and falling back to my designated Lz. I personally put steel $24 45 degree sights so I had 3 sighting options....I am alive today because of them!!!! 45 degree sights are not a new invention....they have been around for a long time...what is your combat experience with back up si8ghts???
My combat experience with back-up sights is combat experience when all we had was iron sights... My most vivid memory is looking at the inside of my buddies chest and not being able to see the guy who shot him..only a small puff of smoke hundreds of yards away.

Please dont take what I am saying as a flame at you.

I am flaming the guys who think they need a $200+ BUIS system for life and death. That logic is flawed and will get you killed unless the combat is under 100 yards OR you are in the Military...in a unit with all that it brings into the equation.
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So i am brand new to calguns and i have leupold scope to sell. Since i read you sell optics I figured you would b a good person to ask how to do it
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Never mind. I found the rt plce
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Diesel power...Then I trust you and everything you say...can't be too careful with all these tacticool people out there teaching incorrect things. Thank-you for your service!!
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I am one of the vets who doesnt thank other vets for serving. I think its a bit egotistical for a group of guys to thank each other.

Since you thanked me, I will resipicate and thank you for your service to our country.
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