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Old 02-20-2013, 11:15 PM
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Default 2013 CA SB 363 - Wright - Firearms: storage: prohibited persons

Mirrors AB 500 in terms of requiring locked storage of any firearm in a household with a prohibited person.

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SB 363, as introduced, Wright. Firearms: storage: prohibited persons.
Existing law provides that specified classes of persons are prohibited from owning or possessing firearms. Existing law establishes the offense of criminal storage of a firearm, where a person stores a loaded firearm in the person’s premises and knows or should know that a child is likely to gain access to the firearm, a child gains access to the firearm, and causes death, great bodily injury, or injury to the child or another person, as specified.
This bill would require every person who owns or possesses any firearms and resides with an individual who he or she knows, or has reason to know, is prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm, as specified, to secure the firearms within a locked container, or with a locking device, or within a gun safe, as specified, and to store the firearms so that the individual may not gain access to the firearms. The bill would provide that a violation of these provisions is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or a fine not exceeding $1,000, or by both that fine and imprisonment.
By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.
The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement.
This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason.
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Old 02-21-2013, 4:49 AM
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I could live with this.
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Old 02-21-2013, 4:54 AM
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Pff whatever...

Another law to ignore.
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Old 02-21-2013, 6:42 AM
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Love how they write into each of these how the state will not reimburse localities for costs, which by the way is required in the state's own constitution. Priceless. Literally.
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I could live with this.
Yeah, right. For now. Here's the next logical extension of this law...



This is tongue-in-cheek, but the premise is accurate. It's not about specific laws and what is "reasonable". It's just one more step in their grand scheme of restricting/banning all firearms. Because, they hate YOU and will not stop at this one step.

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Old 02-21-2013, 7:47 AM
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Funny, but at the same time it hits a nerve and infuriates me. I hate this Frickin State.
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Old 02-21-2013, 8:12 AM
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didn't Heller already strike down requirements of locked storage within the home?
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Old 02-21-2013, 8:13 AM
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I don't believe that the government has any right to tell anyone what they can and can't do inside their own home.
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Heller involved locked storage in ANY home, this requires locked storage in a home with a convicted felon, mentally ill, and other prohibited persons. The good side of this bill is if you have someone who's mentally ill and has been determined to be a threat to society they shouldn't have access to guns. The dark side of this bill is that in some households people will now want to remove prohibited persons and they will likely join the growing number of mentally ill homeless on the street.
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Honestly? They can kiss my butt.
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Old 02-21-2013, 8:29 AM
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I don't believe that the government has any right to tell anyone what they can and can't do inside their own home.
I believe this too. But this morning I had to flush twice because of my 1.6 gallon toilet. Belief and reality unfortunately don't always line up.
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Only if "they" buy me the safe of my choice...
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Heller involved locked storage in ANY home, this requires locked storage in a home with a convicted felon, mentally ill, and other prohibited persons. The good side of this bill is if you have someone who's mentally ill and has been determined to be a threat to society they shouldn't have access to guns. The dark side of this bill is that in some households people will now want to remove prohibited persons and they will likely join the growing number of mentally ill homeless on the street.
And even darker side that many gun owners won't know about this new law until they get in trouble because of it and will join the list of prohibited persons themselves.
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Just another law to make law abiding citizens criminals
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I see a lot of idjits spouting off here.

Remember that Sen Wright is a pro-gun Dem and carried NRA/CRPA SB610 carry reform, etc.

Note also that this bill duplicates some content of another bill.

Please THINK and read between the friggin' lines.
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Woah, this thing has been amended so that the State can charge Manufacturers a fee ANNUALLY so their gun can stay on the roster.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201320140SB363

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(1) Existing law requires the Department of Justice to maintain a roster listing all pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person that have been tested by a certified testing laboratory and have been determined not to be unsafe handguns. Existing law allows the department to charge manufacturers of firearms an annual fee not to exceed the costs of preparing, publishing, and maintaining the roster.

This bill would require the annual fee, commencing on January 1, 2015, to be paid on January 1 of every year.
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Woah, this thing has been amended so that the State can charge Manufacturers a fee ANNUALLY so their gun can stay on the roster.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201320140SB363
That's 'existing law' - the change is the due-date "This bill would require the annual fee, commencing on January 1, 2015, to be paid on January 1 of every year. "

That line is added to 32015(b)(1).
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I see a lot of idjits spouting off here.

Remember that Sen Wright is a pro-gun Dem and carried NRA/CRPA SB610 carry reform, etc.

Note also that this bill duplicates some content of another bill.

Please THINK and read between the friggin' lines.
I don't understand this comment. Can you please explain? Pardon my ignorance.
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