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Old 02-20-2013, 5:33 PM
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Got an email add from CTD today. I replied and also sent a message to Customer Service. Told them since they gouged their customers on .223 ammo a couple of months ago ($1000 for 1000 rounds of Lake City) I could no longer do business with them. I just can't do it. My conscience won't allow it.
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I think they are boycotting me :O
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Old 02-20-2013, 5:35 PM
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So your against capitalism? Supply and demand....
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I stopped buying for the mean time but the addiction is hard to control..
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Old 02-20-2013, 5:43 PM
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I just think that knowing people were panicking, they thought we can make a killing. Yea that's my take on it. I feel they should have stuck together with all the gun owners. You want to support them, then that's your choice. I look at it different. My choice.
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Yeah there on my **** list, it was when I was browsing there site and seen mags were $80. Even if they have something I need at a good price I'll wait and buy from someone else.
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I believe probably 95% of Calguns is boycotting them :P
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I have an email from them stating they would not see to law enforcement in states banning items for civilians, they sound like they are listening and starting to join our side.


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Old 02-20-2013, 11:13 PM
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I went to their website after reading this and they are basically out of ammo. Supply and demand, they have the right to set the price at whatever they feel like. I have the right to shop around but people can complain all they want about how high the price is, they are still selling out.


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Start selling AR accessories to CA civilians and I'll put them back on the list of sites I check. The price raising doesn't bother me much, since I just don't hit the buy button.
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many here have been boycotting them for years because even prior to this panic they refused to sell Californians things that are perfectly legal for us to own. When you have places like Exile, who have taken an active interest in our community and our plight despite being in a free state it makes it very hard to justify the kind of ignorance seen from CTD. They want to act like they are with the trampled-upon citizens, but where were they prior to 2013? Oh yeah, not selling AR parts to CA residents.
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Old 02-21-2013, 8:09 AM
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I use them for stuff i need if it is priced fairly....when they price on the high side I look else where..a lot better than going to buy ammo at local Walmart for ammo....
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I believe probably 95% of Calguns is boycotting them :P
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Make that 95.02%.

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95%? ummm...how about 100%. Price gougers to the max!
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Which gas stations are you boycotting? Gas has gone up every single day for the last 33 days. There's no supply & demand issues there, just gouging.

Local and online stores are all paying higher prices due to supply and demand. The cheapest 223 I can find is 92 cents a round. Hard to blame one store when every store is doing the same thing.
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i totally agree with calguns on this. all the a-holes attempting to make money off the "needy" is b.s. i thought that the gun community was tighter than that.
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Ill say it again.. banner on the front page about CTD.
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Ill say it again.. banner on the front page about CTD.
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Which gas stations are you boycotting? Gas has gone up every single day for the last 33 days. There's no supply & demand issues there, just gouging.

Local and online stores are all paying higher prices due to supply and demand. The cheapest 223 I can find is 92 cents a round. Hard to blame one store when every store is doing the same thing.
Exactly. All of you who claim price-gouging, why aren't you boycotting gasoline? Food? THEY can set whatever prices they want on their bullets, gas and jugs of milk. If you can't stomach that well....
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If they raise prices according to their cost, then that's acceptable. When they raised that .223 to $1000, it was early on during the scare. It's the way they did it. Over night higher than everyone else 5 fold. It's my personal opinion on how they did business.
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all the a-holes attempting to make money off the "needy" is b.s.
Needy?

You have your priorities out of line. Life will go on even if you don't get your PMAG, or 1000 rounds of .223, right now. There are better websites to shop other than Cheaper Than Dirt; which, has never been more than a well stocked, trailer park yard sale.
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many here have been boycotting them for years because even prior to this panic they refused to sell Californians things that are perfectly legal for us to own.
And CTD has yet to give a single damn.
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Got an email add from CTD today. I replied and also sent a message to Customer Service. Told them since they gouged their customers on .223 ammo a couple of months ago ($1000 for 1000 rounds of Lake City) I could no longer do business with them. I just can't do it. My conscience won't allow it.
Don't buy into the panic. Let it die down and buy your ammo at the end of the year.

Things might get ugly here in CA. but Texas and AZ is only a day away. Getting ammo is not an issue. We just have to wait it out.
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If they raise prices according to their cost, then that's acceptable. When they raised that .223 to $1000, it was early on during the scare. It's the way they did it. Over night higher than everyone else 5 fold. It's my personal opinion on how they did business.
So......businesses should conduct themselves based on someone's approval or opinion of their practices? Hmm..that don't sound very American to me.



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Needy?

You have your priorities out of line. Life will go on even if you don't get your PMAG, or 1000 rounds of .223, right now. There are better websites to shop other than Cheaper Than Dirt; which, has never been more than a well stocked, trailer park yard sale.
Seriously. We're not talking about water or baby formula for chrissakes...
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CTD sold 100,000 of .223 and then donated $100,000 to The Second Amendment Foundation. http://www.saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=422
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The price gouging isn't an issue with me as I have the choice to buy or not.

It's the practice of them not selling legal items to Cali that made me quit them for good.
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Do you think their cost didn't go up? It's like yelling at the postman when he delivers your bills. Sure, they may be holding margin and making a bit more, but they too have to compete with other retailers. If they are all at that price, then its a market price. There inventory is what makes them money. If they can't acquire new inventory to make more money, they go out of business. If they sell higher, making more money, their cash flow is likely similar (i.e., higher per item, but lower volume overall (since when they are out of stock, they are selling zero but are still paying expenses)). I would give them a second chance. When I find a decent price, I buy bulk. Maybe you do to.
Makes me always think of how gas prices fluctuate.

Whenever there is price impacting news, the price at the pumps IMMEDIATELY rises, when in reality, the gas sitting in those tanks was purchased at a different (i.e., lower) price but the same argument/practice is NOT applied by the oil companies when the price of oil drops, the price at the pumps usually don't immediately drop but only seem to do so when the tanks are refilled with the lower priced gas significantly after the price of oil has dropped. Bottom line, pricing is ALWAYS in the favor of the oil companies. Capitalism is one thing, price manipulation is another (oil companies sued Safeway to force them to charge higher prices citing unfair business practices since their pricing model was below normal gas stations. I'm waiting for the Costco suit now...).

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Where in the hell did they get that $100,000?

What I don't understand is this whole desire to be a crusader for the working class. If you don't like the price, just don't buy it. Why take it personal? Most of us could care less what Cheaper than Dirt does because we don't buy things from them, so why should I suddenly start boycotting them when I already don't buy from them? Why do I care what their price is unless it is something I want and they have it for the best price?

I just sold 20 round boxes of PMC for $20 a box, the same rate as CTD. The little I had was gone in about 5 minutes. With demand like that CTD and ourselves would be fools not to get that money. Even though I do not respect CTD having stricter policies than the laws of the State of California, I do appreciate them putting their record profits into SAF. And we have to thank the people who bought from CTD that made that happen.

So lets way a few more days until the next crusader stands up to the exploiters.
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Where in the hell did they get that $100,000?

What I don't understand is this whole desire to be a crusader for the working class. If you don't like the price, just don't buy it. Why take it personal? Most of us could care less what Cheaper than Dirt does because we don't buy things from them, so why should I suddenly start boycotting them when I already don't buy from them? Why do I care what their price is unless it is something I want and they have it for the best price?

I just sold 20 round boxes of PMC for $20 a box, the same rate as CTD. The little I had was gone in about 5 minutes. With demand like that CTD and ourselves would be fools not to get that money. Even though I do not respect CTD having stricter policies than the laws of the State of California, I do appreciate them putting their record profits into SAF. And we have to thank the people who bought from CTD that made that happen.

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Making a profit is one thing but when you're raising prices that high it tells me that you have no principles and all you care about is the o' might dollar. If they are willing to charge those kinds of prices then who knows what they might do if you ever had an issue with them.

There's a bigger picture here that some of you guys FAIL to recognize. It's not just about a person deciding to buy or not or a dealer trying to run a business. It's also about principles and supporting those that support the 2nd Amendment. We're all in this fight together and if 2nd Amendment goes away than we all lose. We are all apart of the firearms community so we need to support each other rather than trying to screw the next guy.

Support those dealers with integrity, morals and display good business practices. Dealers that will support you, your rights and the 2A.

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