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Old 02-20-2013, 10:22 AM
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It's such a shame that I can't buy one right now. Anyone want to order a few and hold one for me?

http://www.classicfirearms.com/c-r-eligible/m38rifle

edit: I couldn't resist.
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Guess I need to go put cash into my account!

Anyone have experience with Molot refinished rifles? Where the last batch of M44 done by them?

ATM I can add 944 into the shopping cart... Lets see how fast they go..
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Yes, the last M44 batch was molot. Although they didn't do anything aside from pack the guns into boxes.
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I have 2 Molot 91/30 snipers & 4 M44s. Molot guns are in much better
condition than regular Big 5 Mosins. Clearly selected from better grades.
Aim should have them as well.
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I have 2 Molot 91/30 snipers & 4 M44s. Molot guns are in much better
condition than regular Big 5 Mosins. Clearly selected from better grades.
Aim should have them as well.
Glad I didn't buy the hex mosins from aim, I just order one, I will be making one I have available for sale.

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Look at the pictures of the side of the receiver. Worst refurb markings I have ever encountered
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While they are large IMO they look better then the crappy dot-matrix C.A.I. uses...

I really want to replace my older import M38 that a previous owner drilled and tapped but it has a tiny import mark on the barrel under the cleaning rod if I remember correct Knox Tn.

So for me it comes down to drilled and tapped or large import mark..
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Look at the pictures of the side of the receiver. Worst refurb markings I have ever encountered
+1 "Made in Russia" jeez!

I am going to pass because I've gone over my Mosin quota for the month. I think these are priced right, though.
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Wow they are only 40 feet long
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Oh boy......shopping cart's loaded up......bye bye money. I see a lot of Top Ramen in my immediate future.
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While they are large IMO they look better then the crappy dot-matrix C.A.I. uses...

I really want to replace my older import M38 that a previous owner drilled and tapped but it has a tiny import mark on the barrel under the cleaning rod if I remember correct Knox Tn.

So for me it comes down to drilled and tapped or large import mark..
I've got a M24/47 that has the Knox Tn import mark beneath the barrel! Its amazing to see these M38's. I was led to believe the supply had already dried up. I could go for another, the one my dad and I bought about 7 years ago has more sentimental value in it than the cosmoline it was packed in, but dang it it a dog of a gun, the stock at least
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anyone in norcal ordering several of these? i would love to buy one after you take your picks of the crop.
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Nice .. KO-38's are in. Classic got them up first, cant wait to see what they are like/if in M38 stocks.

Aim should be putting some up too, i'd guess that they will sort them by desirability . A '39 would be nice.
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I have a decent amount of M44s. Other than no bayonet, is there any other difference?
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I just ordered on of the Wiedners M44, and now these show up !! I wonder how the quality compares. Might have to ordering of each, darn it. Gotta sell something else.
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I just ordered on of the Wiedners M44, and now these show up !! I wonder how the quality compares. Might have to ordering of each, darn it. Gotta sell something else.
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I have a decent amount of M44s. Other than no bayonet, is there any other difference?
No real difference, but that pound and a half less makes the m38s handle EXTREMELY well
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"made in russia" ?

and that's not even an import mark, from what I can tell. it's a model number with proofing. what exactly is a "ko-38?"


conspiracy theorist in me says they are using the old tooling to make new rifles! seriously though... is this the mitchell's mauser of mosins?

That wood does not look like anything i've ever seen from ww2 production and the "made in russia" stamp has me skeptical

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The made in russian stuff is for their export. They don't just sell them to the US as far as I know, so maybe it's legally for some other country.

While these are just repacks, they do have their own new production, which shares the same model designation as the repacks.

They aren't too bad IMO
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Old 02-21-2013, 5:18 AM
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As much as I would like one, if there are no significant difference between my M44s and the M38 besides the bayonet, I am going to pass. I think that the import marks would negate much collector interest in these, although who knows?
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Man, this is tempting but I have Mosins to the max. But no M38. With another M44 from Wideners coming maybe I need to just pass.

I don't thik so.

BTW- Whoever did not like AIMS HEX Mosins must of got a lemon. I picked one up early last year from them that is mint!

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Ordered a couple, hope they are nice.
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Yes I ordered one this morning. I figure on Jan 1 my FFL03 becomes worthless anyway.
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If you want one (or think you might want one), don't screw around. They had 900+ yesterday lunchtime, now they have about 250.

At this rate, they will be out before noon tomorrow.
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I just put 200 in my cart.... too bad I don't have $41,522.52 to spare
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Why wasn't I 18 when these M38's were sitting at every Big 5 and gun shop? I look back on my father's impulse buy of our ratty M38 and feel so fortunate. I gave him so much heat for not getting a silly M24/47. An M38 was clearly the better choice because nowadays they only surface like this once in blue moon. Ergg I need to start working on getting my 03!
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Update from classic regarding the m38's - "We have sold 75% of our M38 shipment in 24 hours. If I had to guess these will easily be sold out by mid afternoon. If you are on the fence - buy now or miss out."
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I couldn't resist. Just ordered one.
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Of course they come up for sale right after I spend my extra $$$ on a bunch of reloading supplies.
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Lotta discussion over on the Mosin Nagant forums from the hardcore collectors that these M38s are mongrels/mixmasters, refinished recently by Molot. Good shooters I am sure but don't buy one thinking you are getting something rare or collectible. The Mosin snobs (yes, there are many) liken these to a Mitchell's Mauser.
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Lotta discussion over on the Mosin Nagant forums from the hardcore collectors that these M38s are mongrels/mixmasters, refinished recently by Molot. Good shooters I am sure but don't buy one thinking you are getting something rare or collectible. The Mosin snobs (yes, there are many) liken these to a Mitchell's Mauser.
These were done by the same company that did the last M44's that u yourself bought and I am sure your happy right. I never order nagants online praying for miracle collectors. Those were finds that I went searching for. I own 4 already if I dont like it I will sell. But classic doesnt have a reputation that deserves to be in same sentence as mitchells
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Lotta discussion over on the Mosin Nagant forums from the hardcore collectors that these M38s are mongrels/mixmasters, refinished recently by Molot. Good shooters I am sure but don't buy one thinking you are getting something rare or collectible. The Mosin snobs (yes, there are many) liken these to a Mitchell's Mauser.
How would they know? Has anyone actually received one yet?
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How would they know? Has anyone actually received one yet?
They dont all speculation.
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There has been some speculation on Molot refurbing these recently, My guess is that they are doing the same thing they did for the PU Snipers.

Take them out of crates, wipe off some of the cosmoline and box them as "hunting rifles", to get through any EU Bullshiat on exporting military rifles.

They guy comparing them to Mitchel's Mausers is an idiot.
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There has been some speculation on Molot refurbing these recently, My guess is that they are doing the same thing they did for the PU Snipers.

Take them out of crates, wipe off some of the cosmoline and box them as "hunting rifles", to get through any EU Bullshiat on exporting military rifles.

They guy comparing them to Mitchel's Mausers is an idiot.
Just read that thread, idiocy seems to be quite common over there and the owner is leading the pack on this subject.
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they have less than 20 right now.

The heck with it

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I thought my C&R was on file with them but it's not coming up in the list for my town. Faxed it over to them and have a M38 in the cart but I'm doubtful it'll get processed in time...
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I thought my C&R was on file with them but it's not coming up in the list for my town. Faxed it over to them and have a M38 in the cart but I'm doubtful it'll get processed in time...
I'm in the same boat. Sent my C&R in a few months ago but it never got processed. Classic is now out of M38's so it's too late. Hope AIM gets some in, cuz' I'm going to be pissed if I miss this batch.
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I thought my C&R was on file with them but it's not coming up in the list for my town. Faxed it over to them and have a M38 in the cart but I'm doubtful it'll get processed in time...
That happened to me too. I just got off the phone. She said that was no reason I could not find mine.

She rang it up

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Sent in a scan of my FFL03 this morning and half an hour later it appeared in their online FFL search. (When I tried earlier nothing came up, but possibly that's because my first one had expired.)

Anyway, I got mine! I would never have guessed that a mini mosin would be rare, but I'll have to trust the wisdom of the web on this one.
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