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Old 02-18-2013, 8:16 PM
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Default Cannon Safari gun safe won't open? IDIOT TEST

So, they're customer service dept is closed. So figured i'd try here. Couldn't really find much on google.

Yea yea yea i know. I got the safe from a big box store and some might not call it a 'real' safe. But it's heavy(ish) and does what it's intended to do.

So now that i have that out the way. Just went to go try and open it and punch in the code and it clicks like it unlocks, but wheel doesn't turn. It's the keypad entry one. Any ideas?

EDIT/NOTE: The safe did not indicate the battery was dead or dying. Changed the 9volt and it opened fine. If you have this same problem change the battery. Did not have enough power to actuate the lock.
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Old 02-18-2013, 8:31 PM
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PM SilverTauron, he can have it open in 60 seconds.

Then, in the future, just leave your guns on a park bench.
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Old 02-18-2013, 8:31 PM
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Make sure the turn handle is all the way to the left, then put in code and then turn handle to the right to unlock it.
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Did you try changing the battery?
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Make sure the turn handle is all the way to the left, then put in code and then turn handle to the right to unlock it.
Seriously, try this.
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Old 02-18-2013, 8:38 PM
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sounds like something stuck, be forceful with the handle
hard to explain, but something might get stuck under the rod, so you have to kind of get that unstuck
i let a box of ammo get under where the rod goes down on the inside, so it got stuck, I had to 'force the rod closed' all the way, then it opened, I essentially had to force it closed more than it would go, which actually crushed the top of the ammo box.
so, enter the code, turn to unlock, then turn the handle to lock, as hard as it will go.
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Make sure the turn handle is all the way to the left, then put in code and then turn handle to the right to unlock it.
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Seriously, try this.
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A lot of safes will bind on one pin when locked and the handle is turned.

so take the tension off of the pin by turning the handle the opposite direction in which you would turn it to open, put in the code and it should open right up.
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So you got it? How long would you say that battery was in there? You should be able to get by without changing it for a year...
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That's what i'm saying. Battery can't be more than 4-5 months old. And no indicator as to it was dead or dying like it's supposed too.
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And this is one reason why I do not trust electronic locks. But to be fair the manual says the change the battery at least once a year.
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My wife's Jewelry safe does the same thing, I find giving the handle a slight tap after punching in the code seems to help.
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Electronic locks are scary!
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Great...I hope that battery doesn't go kaput when you REALLY have to get into that safe in a hurry.
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A lot of safes will bind on one pin when locked and the handle is turned.

so take the tension off of the pin by turning the handle the opposite direction in which you would turn it to open, put in the code and it should open right up.
Yes all the way to the side that is not the open direction and from all the safes I have seen that would be to the right
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after you change the batteries in the smoke detectors and reset the clocks at daylight savings time, change the batteries in the safe so you get no surprises.
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Old 02-20-2013, 7:28 AM
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So, they're customer service dept is closed. So figured i'd try here. Couldn't really find much on google.

Yea yea yea i know. I got the safe from a big box store and some might not call it a 'real' safe. But it's heavy(ish) and does what it's intended to do.

So now that i have that out the way. Just went to go try and open it and punch in the code and it clicks like it unlocks, but wheel doesn't turn. It's the keypad entry one. Any ideas?

EDIT/NOTE: The safe did not indicate the battery was dead or dying. Changed the 9volt and it opened fine. If you have this same problem change the battery. Did not have enough power to actuate the lock.

PM me. I have the name & cell # of a local (San Diego) Cannon distributor / service tech. He's a pro.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:35 PM
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does the digital key pad work? if not It might be the solenoid. If you have questions PM me
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And this is exactly why I paid more for my cannon safe to have a combo lock instead of a electronic one.
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Sounds like low voltage
Not enough juice to operate the solenoid
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Don't most e-locks have an emergency/backup way of getting in, whether it's a key or an external battery pack or something? BTW I'm glad I paid the extra for the dial lock, too...
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And this is one reason why I do not trust electronic locks.
This, and because when the Chinese or Iranians or North Koreans hit us with a few atmospheric nuclear bursts, the resulting EMP will render all electronic safes unopenable.

Just when you need them guns the most!
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Old 02-21-2013, 8:56 AM
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This, and because when the Chinese or Iranians or North Koreans hit us with a few atmospheric nuclear bursts, the resulting EMP will render all electronic safes unopenable.

Just when you need them guns the most!
Fort Knox Safes makes an electronic safe that is EMP proof. It has a mechanical lock too.

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Great...I hope that battery doesn't go kaput when you REALLY have to get into that safe in a hurry.
Honestly is a cause of a little bit of anxiety. The battery wasn't older than about 4-5 months. But then again i'm opening my safe at least once or twice a day.

Thanks for all your help guys.

And good point about the EMP
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Cheap off brand 9 volts don't last long. When you hear the different tone then normal,
battery is in need of changing.
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mine eats batteries so i pull out the battery and install it when i want to open it. pain in the *** but its better than replacing batteries every 2-3 weeks. luckily its
one of 4 safes and its not my main one.
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EDIT/NOTE: The safe did not indicate the battery was dead or dying. Changed the 9volt and it opened fine. If you have this same problem change the battery. Did not have enough power to actuate the lock.

It's a good idea to have a fresh battery taped to the side of the safe for instances such as this
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Default Do these have a relocker?

Someone asked me to come look at one of these.
It was locked and apparently never opened.
It had an "over-ride" ace key snug-left of the keypad.
Battery was dead.
Over-ride key barely turned a degree ccw.
I built a keypad battery pack, and it energized the keypad allowing the default code to say "open", but neither method allowed the bolts to turn.
I tried lifting the door with a pry tool in case there was pressure on the mechanism, but that didn't help.
I tried "rapping" the door with a mallet, that also didn't help.
The manufacturer said the 2004 safe was too old for them to have ANY info.

What would help is if someone had/could send me photo's of inside the door.
Around the solenoid, and around the over-ride key.
I have photos
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Someone asked me to come look at one of these.
It was locked and apparently never opened.
It had an "over-ride" ace key snug-left of the keypad.
Battery was dead.
Over-ride key barely turned a degree ccw.
I built a keypad battery pack, and it energized the keypad allowing the default code to say "open", but neither method allowed the bolts to turn.
I tried lifting the door with a pry tool in case there was pressure on the mechanism, but that didn't help.
I tried "rapping" the door with a mallet, that also didn't help.
The manufacturer said the 2004 safe was too old for them to have ANY info.

What would help is if someone had/could send me photo's of inside the door.
Around the solenoid, and around the over-ride key.
I have photos
PLEASE HELP.
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Cannon also offer their 'EMP' lock which is electronic and mechanical build into one.
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I tagged off this one as I tried all as suggested.
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**> REVISED:
The "help-line" told me I was to use a 6 volt battery pack to jump-start from the outside.
She didn't sound real sure. Others have posted to use 9 Volts.
Which is it?

New thread started...

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Ive had my Cannon safe for at least 7 years with no problems. A red light will blink when the battery starts to get low.

I use my safe at least twice every single day and most days about 10 times. I change the battery every daylight savings time with no issues in between.
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