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Old 02-18-2013, 7:56 PM
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Default 300 Blackout hunting?

I am researching the 300 blackout for hunting pigs, there is not much on the web about the info. that I want. Does anyone hunt with one?
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Yards shot made.
Penetration ( do the bullets go through)?
How for did the animal run?
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Weight of the animal shot?
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Old 02-18-2013, 9:36 PM
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While the .30 cal is a great round for pigs i dont believe the blackout has enough powder behind it to really do the job ethically if the pig is bigger or if your shooting at a longer distance. If you shot placement is on point you will probably be ok but i would want something with more oomph, because even the most seasoned hunter does not always send the bullet where it is supposed to go.
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Old 02-19-2013, 5:39 AM
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unless you're reloading it, i wouldnt get into that round until it becomes more established and there are more manufacturers producing it. I've only seen it offered online, and not cheap. but i second what 180 is saying, i think its a little underpowered to make and ethical kill unless you're gonna drive it through the brain housing group. pigs are some TOUGH critters!
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Old 02-19-2013, 5:45 AM
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The 300blk is going to work anywhere the classic soviet 7.62 round will. It has severe range handicaps due to the low velocity and extremely poor BC. The mono bullets offered for hunting do not penetrate very deep when compared to other traditional hunting calibers due to the very poor sectional density of the bullets.

The 6.8 would be a more practical caliber choice in that power range, or the WSSM cartridges if you want a full powered cartridge.
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Old 02-19-2013, 6:44 AM
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The 300blk is going to work anywhere the classic soviet 7.62 round will. It has severe range handicaps due to the low velocity and extremely poor BC. The mono bullets offered for hunting do not penetrate very deep when compared to other traditional hunting calibers due to the very poor sectional density of the bullets.

The 6.8 would be a more practical caliber choice in that power range, or the WSSM cartridges if you want a full powered cartridge.
+1 I can't say that I have any experience with the 300 blackout but the 7.62x39 and 30-30 seem to act about the same on hogs and both those rounds leave something to be desired in a hog calliber at ranges above a 100yds or so. With out knowing the 300 blackout first hand the first thing that would come to mind is the availability or lack of availability of copper bullets for the condor zone.
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Old 02-19-2013, 8:31 AM
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I'll throw my zero experience opinion out there:

Yes it will work. No, not as well as ANY traditional hunting cartridge. "Hunting" is not a suitable excuse to get a 300 blackout. If you want it, just get it. Ha!
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Old 02-19-2013, 8:43 AM
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I hunt and will be hunting with the 300 blackout this season.

Specs says its better then a 30-30 pass 300 yards, but keep in mind the 30-30 is usually a "brush" caliber. Where I use the 300blkout is close and personel and I wouldnt use it pass 100 yards. Averaging our shots from the past 10 years, where we hunt using bow/rifle we usually shoot 40 yards average with the longest shot 120 yards and shortest 5. This is why Im picking a 300blkout.

You have to know where and what your hunting so you can pick the right tool. But, its always better to over kill then under kill. Ethics isnt a issue for me if you know what your doing, because if you know what your doing you wouldnt kill anything pass your skill level anyway.
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Old 02-19-2013, 8:48 AM
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Default 300 blackout

I thought Barnes makes a 125 TTSX for the caliber that does expand at the lower velocities. I have had the 6.8, the bullets where hard to find, and the grouping were unacceptable to me for hunting. The barrel that I was using was 1-12 twist, I think a 1-11 would have grouped better.
Anyone have any pics. Of 300 blackout bullet performance on pigs or deer?
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Not mines..

Here comes the Ethic Police!!

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OP check out 300blktalk.com

There are plenty of folks hunting with 300blk and you'll find a lot more useful info there. Lots of pics in the hunting subforum.
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IIRC part of the reason 300BLK is gaining popularity is due to the hog hunters in Texas
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You will be fine. Ive used subsonic 200gr on pigs. If you use supersonic youll be golden to 300yards.
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Its the kind of thing where if you have to ask the question you should probably use something bigger.
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I use a 300Blk hunting hogs in Florida. Last year, I took two hogs with one shot both dropping dead on the spot.

A short time later, I took one out about 150 yards, dropping it dead on the spot.

Out of all the hogs I've taken, only one has run after being hit and it was my fault for jerking the trigger when I fired. I was aiming for a head shot and I hurried the shot, jerked the trigger hitting the hog on the right side with the bullet taking most of the left shoulder out. The pig ran for about 50 yards then dropped dead. (lost a good piece of shoulder meat too)

I use Barnes 110 gr black tip or 125 gr Nosler green tip ballistic rounds. Most of our shots are within 60 yards but we do occasionally take shots out to 150 yards or so. For the type of hunting and the areas hunted, the 300 Blk works ideally for me.

Weights ran from 90 pounds to 168, my largest.
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Thanks you. I still haven't decided yet.

300blkout
Easy to find bullets and a lot to select from
Kinda easy to make the cases
No modification to mags. or bolt

6.8
possibly better performance on game
Shoots at longer distances ( though when I had my I could not get it to group better than 2" at 100 yards).

Which LMT barrel to buy 300blk or 6.8 spc?


F^^k it and just use my 11# 30-06?

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Thanks you. I still haven't decided yet.

300blkout
Easy to find bullets and a lot to select from
Kinda easy to make the cases
No modification to mags. or bolt

6.8
possibly better performance on game
Shoots at longer distances ( though when I had my I could not get it to group better than 2" at 100 yards).

Which LMT barrel to buy 300blk or 6.8 spc?


F^^k it and just use my 11# 30-06?
I would just use the 30-06. But if you need a new upper which you probably do i would suggest one in 25wssm. The ballistics are equal to a 25-06 which is a laser beam for a round and will hit harder then the 6.8 spc, blackout or 556 or whatever variant you choose thats not a super short case.
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The 6.8 beats the snot out of the 300blk in every way other than sub-sonic. Buy a quality barrel and bolt (ar15performance.com) and you will be set. I reload so ammo is a non-issue, but if you dont, dont worry. Federal is getting into the game this year and others have been making it for a while now(Horniday and SSA). I can even find it on the shelves here on the central coast. I have not seen ammo for the 300blk here yet.

Why push a 110gr TTSX at 2600fps when you can push a 95gr TTSX at 3000fps? Or an 85gr CEB at 3200fps?
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