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Old 02-17-2013, 3:29 PM
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hahahahah..... No not like that.....


I was in a shop and held a replica 1874 SHARPS BUFFALO 45-70. My GAWD man who in their right mind would shoot this thing? I love the gun, and now it has the better of me. I have to say; it would take a lot of nerve to shoot that thing. I would love to have one, why? Just because!

Has anyone shot this caliber?
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They are putty cats in a Lions coat, They are heavy and the barrels are long and the recoil is minimal due to the weight of the gun, if you get one get a Pedersoli. Everyone should if not own one at least shoot one.
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I have one and shoot it often, as noted a putty cat, with black powder just a nice push even with 535 grain bullets.
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Yes, low recoil, very accurate. Heavy, of course, but that's best.
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Yes, low recoil, very accurate. Heavy, of course, but that's best.
^^ That..

Especially rolling 45-70 with BP.
They're a joy to shoot.
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Try a browning hi wall with a 525 gr cast bullet. It rocks

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Old 02-17-2013, 7:18 PM
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A buddy of mine had one of those replicas of the Quigley Down Under rifles in 45-110 IIRC. I was afforded the oportunity to shoot it and let me tell you it was quite a pleasure.
The recoil brought the barrel upward rather than back into your shoulder.
He had double set triggers with a very light pull.
I was impressed with the balance, even with the weight of the rifle it was easy to hold offhand.
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Old 02-17-2013, 9:53 PM
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Just sold a pedersoli Billy Dixon
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I have a 7 LB Marlin 1895 in 45-70. I shoot a lot of 405 grain lead bullets and the recoil is enjoyable.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:49 PM
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I have an 1895 Marlin and with 325 grain lever revolution it will rock your world.
I shared a box of ammo with my son and the next day I took it in to have a proper recoil pad installed.
Now it is great,but I would have hated to try those loads with a steel butt plate.
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I have a Pedersoli 1874 Sharps and a 1884 Springfield Trapdoor.

Both are excellent shooters and are quite accurate.
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45-70 in these rifles is fun, impressive low recoil. By the way, on that other man's gun that you held......if you rub the barrel enough, it might turn into a barrett.....LOL
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I shot one of these BFRs in 45-70.
Yes, the recoil was stout to say the least.
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Teddy Roosevelt's 1874 Sharps Business Rifle in caliber .45 2.10th, and yes, after the 8yrs it took me to restore it,...I shoot it!

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Nice gun but when did you start sleeping in flowered sheets? I'm going to have to have a talk with your wife.
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I expect that to be at the shoot on the 9th. I think lugnuts will agree
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A wonderful and versatile caliber -

Under-rated except by those that shoot it.
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Nice gun but when did you start sleeping in flowered sheets? I'm going to have to have a talk with your wife.
UHHHHHH Flowers hides the stains? lol
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It's a bedspread, and do you really think that fire breathing redhead is going to give me decorating choices? Now my man cave, is a different story!
BTW....cats didn't like it either, so they trashed it, and of course, my cats, my fault. Good kitty's!
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I'm selling a Pedersoli target model if interested.
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Mans gun=SW500 700grain bullets. Man up! Heaviest hitting handgun I've ever shot. I've been lookn for a 1895 sbl or gbl in stainless. 45/70 looks like a fun round.
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in the marlin it's a bit rough, but that's with my dad's handloads, which are more than just a bit warm. in the sharps I think it'd be a pleasure, and yes, it IS a man's gun.
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I have a45/70 trap door, you should try one of my black powder loads. You'll never want to shoot it again. And it is deadly accurate, I love it!!

I'm still saving up for a Sharp's 50/140.
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I've shot a .50/140. It convinced me you had to be tough to be a buffalo hunter. I couldn't imagine shooting 700grn bullets all day on a stand of buffs.
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I have a #3 in 45/70. Great rifle and caliber.
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Mans gun=SW500 700grain bullets. Man up! Heaviest hitting handgun I've ever shot. I've been lookn for a 1895 sbl or gbl in stainless. 45/70 looks like a fun round.
sharps is a man's gun, S&W 500 is a trying-to-look-like-a-man's gun.
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Also have a IAB Gemmer (hawken) style 45-70 1874 sharps rifle I just went thru (tuned lock/upgraded parts ) that shoots very well.

They are bulky/clunky but terribly efficient and totally sexy.
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hahahahah..... No not like that.....
From what i remember " this is my rifle, this my gun, one is for fighting one is for fun".
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cough *that's what she said* cough

I just got 100 pieces of 45/70 brass in the mail today.

Going to cast and load BP for an 1888 trapdoor.

I've got the books, now I just need the gun, some lead and some FFg
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cough *that's what she said* cough

I just got 100 pieces of 45/70 brass in the mail today.

Going to cast and load BP for an 1888 trapdoor.

I've got the books, now I just need the gun, some lead and some FFg
Dutch3 has some good Trapdoor loads, talk to him.
I stopped using BP in cartridges when I discovered TrailBoss powder. It's not made as a substitute, it's made as a replacement. Try it, you'll never waste the time with BP again.
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Dutch3 has some good Trapdoor loads, talk to him.
I stopped using BP in cartridges when I discovered TrailBoss powder. It's not made as a substitute, it's made as a replacement. Try it, you'll never waste the time with BP again.
Traiboss, check. I got JS Wolfs book (his wife and co-author wrote a personal note on the dust cover, how nice is that?). Might be a little more info than I need.

I am going to start really doing research coming up here.

The gun comes around the new year. I bought it from an estate. I've seen it once, the guy had it appraised and they said it was worth 1100-1300 but something about a wrong front sight.

Sold to me for 800 even. We'll see.
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I was sort of looking forward to that BP smoke and stink. Does trailboss do that?
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I want a Shiloh Sharps in 45-70, Montana with some upgrading, only about $4,000.00

I didn't stop in Big Timber MT to visit the shop this past summer. I would have cried.
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I was sort of looking forward to that BP smoke and stink. Does trailboss do that?
Nope, but not having to clean up the gun and brass from shooting BP makes up for it.
I picked up 45lbs of once fired brass for the price of scrap 7yrs ago. Came from the place that builds those repro Gatling Guns. Still kicking myself I didn't buy a couple of hundred pounds.
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Nope, but not having to clean up the gun and brass from shooting BP makes up for it.
I picked up 45lbs of once fired brass for the price of scrap 7yrs ago. Came from the place that builds those repro Gatling Guns. Still kicking myself I didn't buy a couple of hundred pounds.
I read somewhere that guys back in the 1800's expected to re-use the brass for 45/70 20 or 30 times.

Buying by the pound is better than by the piece

I got 100 pcs of starline for I think .47 cents a piece with my 'birthday pricing' from midway.
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A guy I used to work with did a lot of handgun silhouette shooting, with a Thompson Contender in .45-70, and had the jacked up wrists to prove it.

No thank you.

A rifle on the other hand...
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I got into 45/70 because I was going to buy one of these, but the trapdoor fell into my lap at a price I couldn't refuse.
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sharps is a man's gun, S&W 500 is a trying-to-look-like-a-man's gun.
sharps is a OLD mans gun.
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I have a Miroku Winchester 1886 Short Rifle with the curved steel buttplate.

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