[glockman19]

I spoke with Frank the president of the Nevada Sheriff's and Chief's Association and he said that UTAH was on the list of states CCW that would be honored as of October 1, 2007. It is NOT true reciprocity as they are not signing reciprocity agreements with the states but they will be honored.

Book your flights today.

[Cobrarlc]

Another good reason to apply for your Utah CCW.

[glockman19]

Is this for Resident, Non-Resident, or both?

I understand it is for both Resident & Non-resident as it does NOT distinguish between the two just a valid UT permit

[DedEye]

Isn't Florida's CCW recognized by Nevada, and can't you apply by mail?

[glockman19]

Isn't Florida's CCW recognized by Nevada, and can't you apply by mail?

I'm not sure about Florida being on the list. I called him on his cell phone and wanted to be respectful. And NO you must take your CCW class in Nevada by an approved instructor.

[Fate]

Can CCW permit holders carry in casinos?

[MrTuffPaws]

Originally Posted by bdgfate

Can CCW permit holders carry in casinos?

Yes. As long as you're sober.

[VegasND]

Originally Posted by bdgfate

Can CCW permit holders carry in casinos?

Casinos have no carry signs posted. You may choose to not see them. If you are identified they will ask you to leave. If you leave peacefully I've never heard of any problems.

[code33]

It would be interesting to see which states are on this list.

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/74th/bill...237_R1_887.pdf

1 Sec. 9. The Department of Public Safety shall prepare the initial list required
2 by section 3 of this act and provide a copy of that list to each law enforcement
3 agency in this State not later than October 1, 2007.

[ei9htzer0]

Awesome.

[metalhead357]

tag to watch this one

[gotgunz]

What about permits issued from California?

(yes, they exist thank you!)

[TacFan]

Sweeeeeet. I have a UTAH ccw. I was going to get one for nevada as well but now I do not have to

But didn't Nevada require a shooting test as well whereas Utah doesn't ?

[glockman19]

What about permits issued from California?

NO CA. Better get a UT permit.

[CCWFacts]

Originally Posted by blackedoutharley

What about permits issued from California?

(yes, they exist thank you!)

California's permits are a joke.

1. They are black and white on ordinary paper. Easy to forge.
2. There is no way to verify them other than to call the issuing authority and hope that someone there can check it
3. There's no photo
4. No uniform state-wide training requirements
5. No assurance that the permit was issued legitimately

Can you imagine a highway patrol officer in some other state looking at a California CCW and trying to decide if it's real or not?

[Desert Rat]

.................... Sour grapes to me.

Originally Posted by CCWFacts

California's permits are a joke.

1. They are black and white on ordinary paper. Easy to forge.
2. There is no way to verify them other than to call the issuing authority and hope that someone there can check it
3. There's no photo
4. No uniform state-wide training requirements
5. No assurance that the permit was issued legitimately

Can you imagine a highway patrol officer in some other state looking at a California CCW and trying to decide if it's real or not?

[dustoff31]

Originally Posted by CCWFacts

California's permits are a joke.

2. There is no way to verify them other than to call the issuing authority and hope that someone there can check it

One of the specific requirements that Nevada put in the law is that other states must have a 24/7 electronic verification system.

[CCWFacts]

Originally Posted by dustoff31

One of the specific requirements that Nevada put in the law is that other states must have a 24/7 electronic verification system.

Which is totally reasonable, especially when the permits are so easy to forge as California's. Our permits should be DoJ-issued, DL-style, with a central computer database of them. Unfortunately a system like that would not find a lot of support from a few powerful sheriffs in this state.

[dustoff31]

Originally Posted by CCWFacts

Which is totally reasonable, especially when the permits are so easy to forge as California's. Our permits should be DoJ-issued, DL-style, with a central computer database of them. Unfortunately a system like that would not find a lot of support from a few powerful sheriffs in this state.

Yes, a DL style permit, and state level issue, preferably "shall isssue", would take care of it.

[slick_711]

Originally Posted by CCWFacts

Which is totally reasonable, especially when the permits are so easy to forge as California's. Our permits should be DoJ-issued, DL-style, with a central computer database of them. Unfortunately a system like that would not find a lot of support from a few powerful sheriffs in this state.

That'd be an expensive system to initially put into place, and considering how *few* permits there are to monitor...

Also, maybe it varies by county, but in San Diego the permits do have a photo. They are on normal paper though and seem easy to forge.

[CCWFacts]

Originally Posted by slick_711

That'd be an expensive system to initially put into place, and considering how *few* permits there are to monitor...

Wouldn't be that expensive. They already have handgun and AW reg systems. This wouldn't be that different. Any contracting company could build something like that from scratch for about $100k or less, which works out to about $2 per permit.

Also, maybe it varies by county, but in San Diego the permits do have a photo. They are on normal paper though and seem easy to forge.

It varies by county.

[gotgunz]

Originally Posted by CCWFacts

California's permits are a joke.

1. They are black and white on ordinary paper. Easy to forge.
2. There is no way to verify them other than to call the issuing authority and hope that someone there can check it
3. There's no photo
4. No uniform state-wide training requirements
5. No assurance that the permit was issued legitimately

Can you imagine a highway patrol officer in some other state looking at a California CCW and trying to decide if it's real or not?

You obviously (from the above statement) don't have one... Hater!

[glockman19]

Forgot to mention...you also need to register your handguns with the local PD or Sd when you arrive in Vegas/Clark County. Procedure is:

Go to PD/SD. (leave firearm in car).
Notify them you are here to register your CCW handguns for a Blue Card
Complete form, Bring in Firearm(s) and have them do a Serial # registration & Check to see you are the owner.
Get Blue Card.
There is no limit to the number of guns you can register.
You need a Blue Card even if you have a CCW.

[MedSpec65]

Originally Posted by TacFan

Sweeeeeet. I have a UTAH ccw. I was going to get one for nevada as well but now I do not have to

But didn't Nevada require a shooting test as well whereas Utah doesn't ?

Me too. This is great news. We'll have to stay on this subject to absolutely confirm it. Maybe a trip to NV and a sit-down with a local LEO is in order. And, yeah, what about the range qualification test required by Nevada?

[Python2]

Originally Posted by CCWFacts

California's permits are a joke.

1. They are black and white on ordinary paper. Easy to forge.
2. There is no way to verify them other than to call the issuing authority and hope that someone there can check it
3. There's no photo
4. No uniform state-wide training requirements
5. No assurance that the permit was issued legitimately

Can you imagine a highway patrol officer in some other state looking at a California CCW and trying to decide if it's real or not?

Excuse me for correcting you:

First, while its black and white rice paper my PD at least laminated my permit.
Second, a photo was attached to my permit together with my finger print next to it.
Third, PD is manned 24/7 so anyone can check 24/7
Fourth, the permit has number like a drivers license.

[MedSpec65]

Originally Posted by glockman19

Forgot to mention...you also need to register your handguns with the local PD or Sd when you arrive in Vegas/Clark County. Procedure is:

Go to PD/SD. (leave firearm in car).
Notify them you are here to register your CCW handguns for a Blue Card
Complete form, Bring in Firearm(s) and have them do a Serial # registration & Check to see you are the owner.
Get Blue Card.
There is no limit to the number of guns you can register.
You need a Blue Card even if you have a CCW.

Is this the procedure for ALL Nevada Counties?

[TacFan]

Originally Posted by glockman19

Forgot to mention...you also need to register your handguns with the local PD or Sd when you arrive in Vegas/Clark County. Procedure is:

Go to PD/SD. (leave firearm in car).
Notify them you are here to register your CCW handguns for a Blue Card
Complete form, Bring in Firearm(s) and have them do a Serial # registration & Check to see you are the owner.
Get Blue Card.
There is no limit to the number of guns you can register.
You need a Blue Card even if you have a CCW.

great thanks for the info This news just made me order a Kahr PM9

[Desert Rat]

......................... Spends just fine in California and 14 other states.

Washington State and Pennsylvania CCWs, both "shall issue" states, are pretty much the same as CA CCWs yet I only hear praise about them from packers in WA & PA. The less "papers" I have the happier I am.

Originally Posted by blackedoutharley

You obviously (from the above statement) don't have one... Hater!

[glockman19]

Python2, Desert Rat,

We're talking about NEVADA and your CA permit won't be honored. You'll need a NV, UT or other permit to carry there.

Sorry Charley.

[CCWFacts]

Originally Posted by Python2

First, while its black and white rice paper my PD at least laminated my permit.

Ok, it's not ordinary copy paper, but it is some type of thin rice paper which you can probably get at art supply stores. Back to the point about out-of-state LEOs: they'll have no way of knowing any of these nuances. Is it the right type of rice paper? Who knows?

Some authorities laminate them, others do not.

Originally Posted by Python2

Second, a photo was attached to my permit together with my finger print next to it.

Some have photos, some do not.

Originally Posted by Python2

Third, PD is manned 24/7 so anyone can check 24/7

Not all 500+ PDs and SDs in this state are manned 24/7. And even if they are manned 24/7 that doesn't mean that someone who is there has access to the CCW file. They should, but they may or may not. We saw on this board a post where it took LASD a couple of weeks to dig up a permit that was issued just a few years ago (Stallone's). And I've seen the LASD spreadsheet. It had some misspellings and duplicate names. If there are duplicate names, one can assume there are also omitted names. And this is LASD, which is a big urban department, and its records are not in order. Other departments are probably even less organized. Remember, these permits can (and sometimes are) hand-written. I'm sure there are validly-issued, current permits out there where there is no paperwork in the files to confirm them.

Originally Posted by Python2

Fourth, the permit has number like a drivers license.

But again, if the records themselves are not available (no one is there, no one has access to the file, or the files are in disorder) that number doesn't help.

[Desert Rat]

...............Highjacked to ***** about the CA CCW form. I am only responding to the highjack. If you insist on returning to topic, I have NV, UT and 9 others.

Originally Posted by glockman19

Python2, Desert Rat,

We're talking about NEVADA and your CA permit won't be honored. You'll need a NV, UT or other permit to carry there.

Sorry Charley.

[bulgron]

Will Arizona be honored in Nevada? I go to Arizona for a week or two every year (around Christmas), and I've been thinking about trying for a permit there if it fits my schedule.

[stevie]

Originally Posted by MedSpec65

Is this the procedure for ALL Nevada Counties?

Only Clark County (Las Vegas area)

Dang just renewed my NV CHL.

[dustoff31]

Originally Posted by bulgron

Will Arizona be honored in Nevada? I go to Arizona for a week or two every year (around Christmas), and I've been thinking about trying for a permit there if it fits my schedule.

We won't know for sure until the 1st. But all indications are that AZ will be honored.

Oh, and as to the blue card in Clark County, someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that you don't have to register if you'll be there for 24 hours or less.

[glockman19]

From a source on a Nevada TV station, the first batch is;

Alaska
Arkansas
Kansas
Louisiana
Missouri
Nebraska
Tennessee
Utah

[glockman19]

dustoff31,

Sorry AZ NOT honored

[stevie]

Originally Posted by dustoff31

We won't know for sure until the 1st. But all indications are that AZ will be honored.

Oh, and as to the blue card in Clark County, someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that you don't have to register if you'll be there for 24 hours or less.

Its either 24 or 48 hours. Best to just get the blue card, takes all of 15 minutes unless busy.

[Python2]

Originally Posted by glockman19

Python2, Desert Rat,

We're talking about NEVADA and your CA permit won't be honored. You'll need a NV, UT or other permit to carry there.

Sorry Charley.

I was just commenting on CCWFacts post! And no sorry Charley, I do have NV and UT

[dustoff31]

Originally Posted by glockman19

dustoff31,

Sorry AZ NOT honored

Really? Oh well, I don't go there anyway.

[Python2]

Originally Posted by CCWFacts

Ok, it's not ordinary copy paper, but it is some type of thin rice paper which you can probably get at art supply stores. Back to the point about out-of-state LEOs: they'll have no way of knowing any of these nuances. Is it the right type of rice paper? Who knows?

Some authorities laminate them, others do not.



Some have photos, some do not.



Not all 500+ PDs and SDs in this state are manned 24/7. And even if they are manned 24/7 that doesn't mean that someone who is there has access to the CCW file. They should, but they may or may not. We saw on this board a post where it took LASD a couple of weeks to dig up a permit that was issued just a few years ago (Stallone's). And I've seen the LASD spreadsheet. It had some misspellings and duplicate names. If there are duplicate names, one can assume there are also omitted names. And this is LASD, which is a big urban department, and its records are not in order. Other departments are probably even less organized. Remember, these permits can (and sometimes are) hand-written. I'm sure there are validly-issued, current permits out there where there is no paperwork in the files to confirm them.



But again, if the records themselves are not available (no one is there, no one has access to the file, or the files are in disorder) that number doesn't help.

Hmnnn, OK you are right in all your points. Our Cali CCW sucks. I cant even put my laminated permit in a standard size wallet Back to topic then.