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Old 08-02-2008, 10:38 PM
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Default anybody interested in making your own MM stye grip

I will post (how to do it yourself) to make your own MM style grip. Out of respect for Monsterman, I will not sell this or any of my creations to anyone. I am only giveing information to our fellow brothers so we can have our rifles in compliance to CA law. Do this at your own risk, I will not be responsible if you screw up your rifle. I do not give legal advise, If you are unsure if this modification will fit your legal configuration please consult a lawyer. I hope all the disclaimer stuff is out of the way. If I miss something let me know.

1. First make sure you do not have any live rounds in the chamber. I hope anybody that owns any guns or rifles knows this golded rule.

2. Seperate your upper and lower. Rememer we are doing a Fal type rifle. These instructions in makeing your grip can be done to any of your rifles.


3.Using a piece of card board I made a stencil shape of what I want to form. After that I transfered that shape on a piece of Aluminum that you can get at any home depot or lowes. Be sure to add about 3/4 inch of aluminum towards the Pistol grip because we need that much to attach to the PG.



4. I cut the slits and bent them to form around the PG.



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You might want to remove that thing that sure looks like an IMBEL combo device from the end of your barrel . . . or clarify if it's a US muzzle brake.
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I'd like to hear more.
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Yeah, I specifically want a MM style grip for my FAL too,since they haven't been made yet.
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I've explained somewhat how to build a grip like that here http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=58679

But post up your way. More info is always good.
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Okay I will work on this tonight. I confirmed with enterprise arms, its a muzzle brake. Remember Slits = flash hiders, Holes = brake. By the way sunrise, Yours look real good. I know if I did a little more work on the shaping I could get it looking as good as your. It took me a less than a couple of hours to get this completed. I hated haveing my rifle in two pieces in the safe.

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5.I attached the piece to the PG using Tapered screws. Again same stores as aluminum sheet. You have to trim the shape to fit on to the PG.




6.Next I prepped the stock with tape. Installed the PG for more trimming and trimmed the upper aluminum so when I add the goop, I can shape it. I also added the holes so that when the putty is applied, it would grab on to the aluminum..


7. I used plummers putty. I used four of these to complete


8. I started to apply the putty and preformed it on to the aluminum. I worked both sides as fast as I can because this stuff starts to harded in 3 minutes.

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Sorry for the threadjack, but there's no hard and fast rule that slits=FH and holes=MB . . . the combo devices have slanted holes and they are definitely FH's (and GL's to boot).
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9. Keep forming both sides till all the alluminum is covered and the shape you want is formed.



10. After it hardeneds after 30 minutes, I start shapeing it and cleaning it up. I used a belt sander and a dremel to shape it the way I want. I removed the tape from the stock and after all the dirty work is done I started to paint it.





I hope this helps all. If I am missing something or doing something wrong. Let me know and I will edit it. thanks

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Thanks. We need more options like this.
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That is basically the same way I made my prototype. I have sent it to Ironwood designs to be made. Recently we have run into a design issue and I am hoping to have it worked out soon.

As for the do it yourself, just make sure the fin can't come off by some lateral force if someone (leo) were to try to break it off making it a pistol grip again.

Here is my prototype.
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Not knowing how hard the plumbers putty gets, that was my concern as well.

Will your FAL grip only be in wood or will it also be available like the one above?

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That is why I added the aluminum skeleton. It adds to the strength to the whole thing. This stuff is real strong. I am sure it can be done with JB weld. But I decided to use this because it works well with plastics. Thanks MM for your opinion. I had asked you about this a while back but I was impatient. Plus It gets me out of the house with my kids always fighting with each other.

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Great job Savageevo and thanks for contributing this write up.
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What kind of paint did you use on the MMG?
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thanks. I had hoped to have this finished by now, but it is a pain getting this stuff made.

When they are made, they will be made out of wood. It would cost about $20,000.00 to get that grip made in plastic. I don't think I would sell enough to get my money back. Maybe pre-bullet button but not now. Wood is much cheaper to get made. Each grip costs way more, but the fact I don't have to get a steel mold made is why it is cheaper.

People should definatly make their own if they want one sooner than later.

I wish I could have had them out by now. Sorry for letting you guys down.
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I only used high temp paint that I had when I was painting my rifles a while back. It takes almost a week to cure. Its curing now as we speak. But when it hardens it's as hard as rocks. Let me know if you need help making one.

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Hey monsterman, thanks for your blessing. When yours comes out. I will still buy yours.
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LOL. Not let down at all. All you have to do is look at the number of members on FAL Files vs AR15.com. 35k vs 166k. The number of AR's here on Calguns most certainly dwarfs the number of FAL owners. The market is what it is. I know tooling costs for plastic are tremendous. I think it's awesome what you've brought out.

I'm looking forward to picking up two from you and I may try to make one myself just to do it.
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I made fin grips using kydex- it does wrap around the front, so the feel may be an issue for some. The method is similar- make a cardboard template first. Use a heat gun (hair dryer) to heat and shape my hand (leather glove).

The good thing about kydex is you cannot ever break it off- it would flex first. Jam your thumb in there by force and you may lose the thumb
And when riveted on, good luck getting it off without drilling first.

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Where can you buy kydex, I may have other uses for that. thanks
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YOu know what would be great, is if someone designed something like this but as a sleeve that goes over the existing grip.
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The Kydex one, if made that way, does slide over the existing grip.

BUT IMO you should RIVET the thing in place so it can't be removed without destroying the grip. Someone could otherwise easily make the wedge disappear before your date in court, if it came to that.

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Dude, hitting that with a hi-build primer before sanding will do wonders to smooth out the imperfections.

I get the hi-build from Car Quest. You'll need a compressor and paint gun. If anybody in San Diego needs something like that sprayed, just let me know.


ETA: Monsterman, I know I start builds only because you offer a particular grip.

This is my AK build-in-progress. I need to purchase a spot welder now.

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I decided to rebump this thread because of the fact that if registration does come and the only option is to make our rifles with no features this gives you the option to make your rifles compliant. AR pistol grips are cheap, you all probably have some laying around. Same thing with ak pistol grips. Why heck even Hk pistol grips bodies are fairly cheap to mode. Good luck with your project.
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