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Old 02-09-2013, 8:07 PM
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Default Calif. proposal to ban new semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines & ammo bac

Anyone worried about this new law they are trying to pass?

The package includes:
Banning the possession — not just manufacture and sale — of magazines holding more than 10 rounds.
Making possession of hollow point bullets and similar “assault bullets” a felony.
Requiring anyone wishing to buy ammunition to first get a permit by passing a background check.
Requiring the registration and reporting of all ammo purchases. Limits the number of rounds anyone can have at one time to 500 rounds.
Requiring all gun owners will have to be licensed like drivers, and will be forced to carry gun liability insurance.
Banning any gun that has a detachable magazine, and requires a 100% prohibition of all fixed magazines greater than 10 rounds.
Making all previous grandfathered magazines become illegal, and it will become a felony if you keep one.
Prohibiting anyone barred from owning a weapon from living in a home where weapons are kept
Expanding the list of crimes that would bar a person from gun possession.
Letting the state Justice Department use money from the state’s Dealer’s Record of Sale system to eliminate the backlog of people identified as no longer allowed to own guns but not yet investigated and contacted by law enforcement.
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Old 02-09-2013, 8:11 PM
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1. Ban all semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines. California’s assault weapons ban only restricts the possession of semi-automatic rifles that accept detachable magazines if they have an additional, “military-style” feature like flash suppressors. The new laws would tighten this law by banning all such rifles regardless of external features.
2. Ban possession of high-capacity magazines. California law bans the transfer, not possession, of magazines that can hold over ten bullets. This allows people wanting to skirt the law to buy the constituent parts and make the magazines themselves. The new law would close that loophole.
3. Ban “bullet button” conversion kits. State law defines “detachable magazines” as, in part, magazines that can be released “without the use of a tool.” Bullet button kits allow magazines to be released quickly by pressing a bullet into them, thus creating an end-around the intent of the assault weapons ban. The new provisions would ban such kits.
4. Bans shotgun-rifle combinations. It would ban this class of class of weapon.
5. Universal registration of all guns. The law would create “ownership records consistently across-the-board, ensuring all firearms are recorded” so that the background check system can prevent criminals from getting guns.
6. Background checks on ammunition. This provision requires a “full and complete” background check on ammunition sales, “building on” laws existing in Los Angeles and Sacramento.
7. Regulating gun loans. The legislators propose setting up an as-yet undefined regulatory system for the loan, as opposed to sale, of guns.
8. Prevent prohibited individuals from living in homes with guns. California’s Armed Persons Prohibition (APP) database lists people who can’t legally own weapons (as a consequence of criminal or mental health records) under state law. This addition would prevent people on the list from living in a house that has a gun.
9. Cracking down on people who can’t own guns legally but do anyway. Currently, 19,700 people who are on the APP list own guns. Police estimate that these people own roughly 39,000 firearms. This new law would authorize additional funding to enforce the law in this area.
10. Required safety training for handgun owners. People with concealed carry permits are required under California (and many other) state laws to pass a mandatory safety and firearm instruction course. This provision would require all handgun owners, regardless of permit status, to undergo a similar process.
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Old 02-09-2013, 8:39 PM
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Everybody wants this to be in this section or that section, IBTL, WHATEVER! As you can see, a lot of people are not even aware of these new proposals announced 2/8/13. WHO CARES which forum, this affects all of us law abiding CA residents. We gotta get the word out, WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?
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Everybody wants this to be in this section or that section, IBTL, WHATEVER! As you can see, a lot of people are not even aware of these new proposals announced 2/8/13. WHO CARES which forum, this affects all of us law abiding CA residents. We gotta get the word out, WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?
We're on the side where we try to focus our efforts; the way to do that is to have the substantive discussion in one place, so all the ideas are available to all.

The current discussion thread for this threatened group of bills is http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=698309

It is utterly beyond my comprehension that some Calguns members would see rumors in email, postings on web sites, stories in the papers and on television about these bills - and then NOT go read the 2A forum.

But there are such people.

And that's why these off-topic threads get closed instead of deleted. This one, I'll make a sticky.

(The IBTL posts are pretty much a waste of time. Instead of posting those, write an email to your elected legislative-critter.)
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