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Old 02-12-2013, 7:13 PM
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Why do people have to try to be "elitists" about 1911's? I really dont give a rat !@#% less that you blew more on your 1911 than you did your car, bro.. lol I really dont. Fact is, ive seen much cheaper 1911's in comparison to what I spent on mine, even with the "tactical" package.. $200 - $300 range, which puts the $500 - $600 range RIA I purchased in the "mid tier" between $200 and $1000. Now shaddup... ty


To everyone else, nice pistols! im loving the 1911 porn in here. Cant wait to ad my rig up to the custom RIA list among the group I picked my baby girl up from the armory today. I cant wait to get some new stuff for her already lol I dont like the plastic main spring housing, and those factory mags are horse sh*t.... the bullets dont even like to sit in the appropriate position without some assistance but its cool, i planned to get some Wilson combats anyways sights arent too bad, but I do want to try those XS sights out. I think those would fit my usage and style quite well. either that, or ill just save up for some better Novaks. havent decided just yet. im going to have some more discussions with you guys (especially shooterphil) on what can be easily fitted and perform well in these guns first.

Here are some pics. I gave her a nice bath, and then oiled her down like a Swedish masseuse lol shes nice and clean. Though I do need to get a bore brush to clean that gunk out of the inside of the barrel bore. Was shocked at how much crap is in there from the factory But all else, here she is... clean, mean, and ready for action


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Old 02-12-2013, 9:58 PM
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I got an "ACT" mag with mine, it seems pretty good.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:40 PM
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thats what I got with mine. not liking it at all. the bullets dont seat well within the mag.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:02 PM
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^^You might have gotten a ****ed up mag. Both my ACT mags are badass...

Then again, the ****ty Colt mags I bought for 7 bucks have not failed me ever...
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Old 02-13-2013, 3:17 AM
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. Fact is, ive seen much cheaper 1911's in comparison to what I spent on mine, even with the "tactical" package.. $200 - $300 range, which puts the $500 - $600 range RIA I purchased in the "mid tier" between $200 and $1000. Now shaddup... ty

Really? What new 1911's are available for $200-300? I would like to get one to do a review. I've always thought the RIA's were a great value in their price range, but maybe theres something that's even a better value out there?
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thats what I got with mine. not liking it at all. the bullets dont seat well within the mag.
Does that make a difference? All you want from a magazine is feeding reliability. Maybe they aren't supposed to sit all nice and pretty inside the mag. I'm no 1911 mag expert, but if the mag feed well, then it's a good mag.
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Really? What new 1911's are available for $200-300? I would like to get one to do a review. I've always thought the RIA's were a great value in their price range, but maybe theres something that's even a better value out there?
Maybe he's talking about the GSG something-or-the-other 1911 but they're just under $400 in my experience...
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Old 02-13-2013, 6:34 PM
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As for the cheaper 1911s, there are several but the one I think of off hand is a German made 1911 that appears to have been built with proprietary parts that limit the interchangeability, but i could be wrong about that. The specific pieces I noticed right away that at least seemed to be shaped differently from other 1911s were the main spring housing and the beavertail grip safety. Could be wrong on that though..

As for the magazine, i dont give a damn about how the mag looks or how the bullets look inside the magazine, the issue is in how the bullets sit at the top of the mag when full/almost full and the fact that when dry cycling some rounds through it, i encountered some FTF's. I realize this is just dry cycling, and perhaps under actual fire the behavior will change, but the specific type of issues I encountered were pretty serious and seemed like it was magazine related because it only happened when the mag was loaded completely full, which is also when the bullet behavior in the mag was questionable.

I dont know if im explaining this well, but picture a full mag with the top loaded bullet pointing up the way its supposed to. You can depress on the tip of the bullet and the mag will squish down a bit, but the bullet should spring back into that angled up position which is correct for proper feeding. This one doesnt.... when the mag is fully loaded or even with just 7 rounds in it at times, the top loaded bullet will actually stay "down" if you squish it down. It causes FTF issues when dry cycling. Also, the bullets dont "glide" into and out of the mag smoothly. Very gritty and nasty feeling.

I attribute most of the magazines issues to the follower, which is very loosely fitted into the mag. When checking out the Wilson Combat mags, I noticed the follower was extremely stable inside the mag. No real play room any direction other than up/down like it should to follow the bullets. Didnt load any bullets into it, but just thumbing around with it I was able to tell a huge difference between the two and my engineering background kind of kicked my thought cycle into play as to how that factor alone could be causing my problems.

Now, could i be wrong? Certainly. Its just an observation based on limited knowledge of the platform. But I was very impressed with the WC mags. I will be getting some and hopefully I will be happy with them If nothing else, perhaps the ACT mag is just in need of some breaking in and will make a good range mag. But for HD, i want to make sure I have some good mags.
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Ahh I see.. unfortunately the GSG 1911's are replica's in .22lr; I think the Armscor/RIA 1911's are still the lowest price 1911 with acceptable quality then imho.

In regard to your magazines, what your describing you like about the Wilson is the captured followers. Non captured followers are the original design and generally work fine although they can ding up the area below the feed ramp on alloy framed 1911's.

Although I personally prefer Tripp Research Cobra Mag and Chip McCormick Power Mag Plus (CMC) magazines (both feature captured followers which I prefer as I use them in my alloy framed 1911's as well as my steel framed 1911's) many people like the Wilson's despite the 47d having some issues which is why Wilson came out with the ETM.
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Old 02-15-2013, 4:18 PM
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Why do people have to try to be "elitists" about 1911's? I really dont give a rat !@#% less that you blew more on your 1911 than you did your car, bro.. lol I really dont. Fact is, ive seen much cheaper 1911's in comparison to what I spent on mine, even with the "tactical" package.. $200 - $300 range, which puts the $500 - $600 range RIA I purchased in the "mid tier" between $200 and $1000. Now shaddup... ty
WOAH WOAH WOAH! CALM DOWN!

Okay yes, I was making a joke at your expense, but here's where I'm coming from. While I haven't been fortunate enough to own any custom 1911s (yet... still waiting for the gunsmith to finish...), I have had the opportunity to handle and shoot a very wide range of 1911s because of a previous job.

What you call "high grade" Springfield, Kimber, and even Colt, are generally accepted to be mid-range guns. They're mass produced guns that get thrown together at a factory. They're not terribly expensive (usually $1000 or less), the fit and finish is good, and out of the box, the internals aren't bad (the triggers are generally smooth, with only a little slop).

RIAs, while not the worst feeling 1911 on the market, aren't (in my opinion, at least) quite at the level of Springfield and Kimber. The examples that I've felt have sloppy triggers out of the box, and while the finish isn't horrible, it isn't anything to write home about either. I suppose that one good thing is the fact that the slide to frame fit is on par with Springfield and Kimber, but given the choice, I'd go with one of the other companies.

What you called "full custom," Les Baer, Wilson Combat, Ed Brown, etc, are what you call semi-custom guns. They see a lot more TLC at the factory than lower models, and that shows not only in the price, but in the fit and finish (which is generally excellent), and in the quality of the internals (smooth, crisp triggers using good parts). Production runs are generally smaller than with Springfield or Colt. The reason why they're only semi-custom is because all these manufacturers generally only make specific models that you have to choose from.

A proper full custom gun, while built on the bones of mid or semi-custom gun, are going to be built either at a custom shop like Springfield's Pro Shop, or by a master gunsmith, and are going to feature modifications that truly make the gun unique. Parts can be swapped, frames modified, engraving done, basically anything that you want, they'll put on your gun.

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Although I personally prefer Tripp Research Cobra Mag and Chip McCormick Power Mag Plus (CMC) magazines (both feature captured followers which I prefer as I use them in my alloy framed 1911's as well as my steel framed 1911's) many people like the Wilson's despite the 47d having some issues which is why Wilson came out with the ETM.
I used Power Mags for a while (in 2005), but I think that the stock spring was too weak and rounds wouldn't feed properly (either the slide would come forward without stripping the next round, or the round would rotate upwards during feeding and flop out the ejection port. I replaced the spring and follower with Tripps, and while the feeding problems went away, I lost a half a round's capacity, leaving me with only enough space for 7 rounds.

I have a whole bunch of ETMs which feed flawlessly, and I exclusively use when I'm carrying. I also have a bunch of 47Ds which I'll keep using on the range until they go bad.
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