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Old 02-07-2013, 6:34 PM
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If we lived in a perfect world we wouldn't be having this discussion. That said, I have another spin on the over penetration thing. We know for a fact that drive buys kill people in their homes all the time. Now assuming most of those shots did not enter the home through an open window, I would have to think they went through exterior walls before hitting someone on the inside.
What I do not know is how many unintended people are struck from bullets fired in a home defense situation, through walls or due to over penetration after hitting the bad guy.
What I'm saying is, every time the home defense caliber discussion comes up, people always bring over penetration into the discussion. It seems logical that you would worry about it but is there really an issue here? I mean how many times has it happened? I can't find any stats at all.
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Old 02-07-2013, 6:57 PM
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Newb question, Can I shoot 22lr hollow point thru a ruger 10/22 takedown?
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Old 02-08-2013, 6:38 AM
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The FBI evaluate ammunition with pistol based on it's penetration through an obstacle through clothes and depth of penetration into target. This method was developed because of the Miami shoot Out which ended in FBI Agents dying because the 10mm round penetrated car doors, person and car doors, it over penetrated. I have also seen the results of over penetration in my stupid teenage years.
I figure it this way, does over penetration happen, yes, does it always happen, no, should I plan for it to reduce its possibility of happening, yes. It seems like a good way to reduce accidental injury or death.
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I wonder what type of bullet they were using? This chart does not include car doors, just gel and goats. Check out the penetration of the 45ACP 230gr FMJ. Seems the 10MM mushrooms really well with hollow points given its speed.
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Old 02-08-2013, 7:08 AM
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Oops

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While I would not reach first for .22 for self defense it is a lethal round. It is what killed Robert F. Kennedy and almost killed Ronald Reagan. Just keep pulling the trigger until the threat is neutralized.
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Ruger LCR 22 magnum! :-)

The meat:


Review:
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-LCR22Mag.htm

The pic:
anxiously awaiting this to be CA approved! Supposed to be able to get our hands on them in March....If this really is all it's been talked up to be this would be my EDC weapon. Super excited over this one!
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This is not at all accurate. No agent involved in the shoot out used a 10mm. The 10mm was developed because of the lack of penetration of the 9mm's that were used.
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The FBI evaluate ammunition with pistol based on it's penetration through an obstacle through clothes and depth of penetration into target. This method was developed because of the Miami shoot Out which ended in FBI Agents dying because the 10mm round penetrated car doors, person and car doors, it over penetrated. I have also seen the results of over penetration in my stupid teenage years.
I figure it this way, does over penetration happen, yes, does it always happen, no, should I plan for it to reduce its possibility of happening, yes. It seems like a good way to reduce accidental injury or death.

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The man makes the gun not the other way round.
+2, you can kill with a thumb tack if you have the talent.
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Umm...okay.
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+2, you can kill with a thumb tack if you have the talent.






I think I'll stick with my more traditional means of defence.
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