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Old 10-04-2013, 2:26 PM
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Does anyone know if the BLM has temporarily closed this area due to the recent gov' shutdown? Eat Dirt posted in another thread that Bee Canyon had the gates locked. I was planning on going out there next Saturday. I'd like to not make the trip out there to find a gate locked, or chain pulled across the entrance.
I just called one of the Rangers direct / Left message /Waiting to hear back

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Old 10-05-2013, 9:30 AM
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Drove by this morning, looks to be open and plenty of shooter at the entrance.
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^ Good to know. Thanks for the update!
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Happy to help any weekend or, with a bit of warning, any weekday.

It wasn't too bad when I was there 9-24, but there was a significant number of shotgun husks.

The person we pulled in next to was getting ready to leave and had picked up, and piled up a lot of the wood and cardboard though. We bagged out a couple too.
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Could someone please PM me the coordinates? I live in Oceanside and went shooting last week at Dulzura which is down about 20 miles east of Chula Vista so Im wondering if Steele Peak would be closer to me.

If any of you ever get a chance to shoot at Dulzura called "Pink Gate" check it out. It burned two weeks ago because some knuckleheads were shooting rocks and caught it on fire. They are facing a huge bill having to pay for CALFIRE tankers and Fire crews. Hate to be them.

There's another shooting spot just past South Bay Gun Club thatis really nice too. We spent a good hour after shooting cleaning up other peoples messes. Really ticks me off people cant clean up after themselves and follow the rules. The Ranger out there J Funk is a really great guy as long as you're responsible.
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We're fairly new to BLM shooting but we're planning on heading out to Steele Peak tomorrow. Our first experience was at Berdoo canyon and we felt very safe there, the other shooters seemed safe and respectful, no cracks or zings over our heads (or worse). If only they'd all picked up their trash on the way out
Anyway, does anyone have any advice about Steele Peak? Is it generally safe or are there areas to avoid? From what we've seen people tend to setup by their vehicles, but we read that you have to be 100yds from the road, or does the fact its an unpaved dirt road mean it's ok? I'm sure many of you have encountered Ranger's up there so have experience of what they like vs don't.

Appreciative of any help\advice you guys can offer, maybe we'll see some of you there?
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Old 12-01-2013, 7:24 AM
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Well, we managed to get there late in the afternoon, wow, what a busy place and much cleaner than we were expecting - but still littered with shotgun shells and discarded targets. Needless to say all our brass and targets got picked up and packed out.
On the drive out one young man turned away from his shooting to watch us drive by - while unwittingly pointing his pistol at us as he removed the magazine..... Hmmm..... Is it really that difficult? I don't consider myself to be a "safe direction" !!
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He was admiring your abs of steel and mistook you for a silhouette!
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Was out there today. Place is a mess. My cousin and I picked up some trash, but that place needs help. I remember going shooting as a kid, and we picked up what we brought and more. Still is the case, but people are pigs.
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I've been know to leave unused targets at the turn in if I leave early. But trash is always more than ya bring in.

New Years clean up anyone?
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Old 12-24-2013, 6:54 PM
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I've been know to leave unused targets at the turn in if I leave early. But trash is always more than ya bring in.

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i go out here maybe once a month and picked up more and more trash every time! its getting worse and worse and the "targets" are getting bigger: tires, canopy, couch, dummys, etc etc lots of shotgun shells as well. we def need to set up a meet possibly monthly just to keep it clean
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anyone planing on going out tomorrow morning. was thinking about heading out with a friend and have some fun. maby haul out a bit of crap while we are there.
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The general practice on the site is that we don't post directions or location either by street name or GPS coordinates. Since you are both newer members, we'd appreciate if you would go along with that. Thank you. Also, Calguns is a well known gun/2nd Amend. forum, so it is not far fetched to think that some people do come here just to learn shooting site locations. Some of those might also be the ones to leave their trash, so why make it easier for them. It happened at one of the Zombie shoots for example.

Also, as far as the First Amendment goes, there is no First Amendment right on this forum. This is a privately owned formed and the rules are made by the owner and enforced by the staff. You might want to read the First Amendment to ascertain who it is directed to specifically.
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The general practice on the site is that we don't post directions or location either by street name or GPS coordinates. Since you are both newer members, we'd appreciate if you would go along with that. Thank you. Also, Calguns is a well known gun/2nd Amend. forum, so it is not far fetched to think that some people do come here just to learn shooting site locations. Some of those might also be the ones to leave their trash, so why make it easier for them. It happened at one of the Zombie shoots for example.

Also, as far as the First Amendment goes, there is no First Amendment right on this forum. This is a privately owned formed and the rules are made by the owner and enforced by the staff. You might want to read the First Amendment to ascertain who it is directed to specifically.

Thank you Mr. retired.

I went up there this morning, the place is a mess. All kind of trash, targets, shotgun cases everywhere, etc.....

KingOf6, Ramdrodjan55 and myself loaded our trucks to the max with trash trying to clean up our shooting stations, there is so much trash up there than our efforts were literally imperceptible .....

*sigh*

Another good place to shoot in peril to be shut down due to the irresponsible actions of some shooters.
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I have been out there several times this past year and the only time I ever seen the ranger there was at a clean up that was held in April. He made sure the area was cold. As I posted in another thread I seen a large group of people shooting a fridge and they didn't take it with them But what is some one supposed to do ? Cell phone service is dead there no way to call authorities and if you approach a group leaving trash your asking for problems. I posted question about losing your firearm rights for fist fighting on a separate thread and the responses were walk away from confrontation . What can one do ? Write down the license plate of the vehicles there ? Then it becomes a he said she said .
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I have been out there several times this past year and the only time I ever seen the ranger there was at a clean up that was held in April. He made sure the area was cold. As I posted in another thread I seen a large group of people shooting a fridge and they didn't take it with them But what is some one supposed to do ? Cell phone service is dead there no way to call authorities and if you approach a group leaving trash your asking for problems. I posted question about losing your firearm rights for fist fighting on a separate thread and the responses were walk away from confrontation . What can one do ? Write down the license plate of the vehicles there ? Then it becomes a he said she said .
You could surreptitiously take video with your phone camera, but that again might cause problems for you if they are aware you are doing it. Also, if it went to a court case, you might have to testify.

I might suggest you contact the ranger station there and ask them what they suggest and if you did provide them video showing a dumping violation, would the video be sufficient without the need for you to testify.

If leaving trash is only an infraction, then it would more than likely be something they would have to witness to issue a cite. If it is a misdemeanor not committed in their presence, then you might have to become more involved than you want. Again, ask their advice since it falls within their purview.

I agree approaching anyone about their trash, could end with negative results for you, so I would not advise doing so.
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^^^ Here's the Deal New Guy ( No disrespect )

I have been on this site a number of years and have seen shooting area come and go .............


Story ::There was a small shooting in San Deigo county off hwy 76
Nate Harrison Grade rd.
It was a nice little spot on a dirt road on the back way up to Mt. Palormar
I was there a few times myself
Then the directions got posted here and the area got a lot of Action !!!
within 4 months the area was shut down because of the trash problem

That being said , This is an open forum , Anyone can come-on-in and look for a place to go Blast a few T V's

Tell ya what
How about you post your cell phone number here and let's see what happens
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^^^ Here's the Deal New Guy ( No disrespect )

I have been on this site a number of years and have seen shooting area come and go .............


Story ::There was a small shooting in San Deigo county off hwy 76
Nate Harrison Grade rd.
It was a nice little spot on a dirt road on the back way up to Mt. Palormar
I was there a few times myself
Then the directions got posted here and the area got a lot of Action !!!
within 4 months the area was shut down because of the trash problem

That being said , This is an open forum , Anyone can come-on-in and look for a place to go Blast a few T V's

Tell ya what
How about you post your cell phone number here and let's see what happens
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Nawwww........he should post his cell # on here so we can all coordinate with him when he goes. I'm sure he can use the help stuffing all that trash left behind by others in his car. Then we can call him and remind him to work with BLM on future clean ups. I'm very sure he will do this since he seems to be a very reasonable and responsible person.
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Lets make sure to keep all recreational shooting sites a secret so less folks can enjoy this hobby. More folks who hate guns who never got a chance to shoot is a great goal.. Big picture.

Keep it hard for folks on this site to find good locations to shoot will result in less Calgun members at your local site... You can have it all to your self.

This is a private forum and I do know that I can't say what I want without being censored by folks who don't like an opposing opinion. It is not my 1st amendment right to post what I want here, but it is my opinion that the freedom of speech is much more powerful than the right of the People to keep and bear arms.

I will post the GPS coordinates on other sites to keep it coming up in Google. It is my mission to get good people involved in recreational shooting. The more of us doing it, the more power we will have to keep our sites open and even open up some new ones.

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I took out one truck-bed full of trash and it still seemed like I was moving a mountain with a spoon. It is real bad.. So bad I bet it gets closed....
and you want to invite more deadbeats to leave more trash? Some of todays shooters have no respect for open land and if more of these people are invited the open land will close for sure.

Many people on here share spots in private after getting to know each other.... there are 2 clean up threads that between them have almost 500,000 views, do you think these viewers are interested in cleaning up??? If they were the places would be spotless!
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Anyone who posts GPS stuff so the general public can go trash an area should get a Perma-ban.
Sorry, but if you want to be an idiot you should be treated as one. Everyone works hard to keep these places clean.
If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem.

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If my first post was not deleted, you would know that I was at that site last weekend cleaning up trash. Not just running my mouth and insulting new members.

I even found a bunch of tools that I am auctioning off to help pay for a dumpster at the Sleele Peak location.

Anyone want to help?



It is a good idea, I could use the help cleaning. Not sure why you don't want other to help in this effort. Better to have your own privet dirty shooting hole? Get folks involved in the effort and teach someone to love shooting. Yeah, you come help stuff my truck full of trash and I will be glad to shake your hand.
Ok....then post your # and leave it up. But I'm pretty sure you won't. Why? Because you don't want a bunch of strangers having your cell # and you don't want a bunch of calls, prank or otherwise. Kinda like keeping a good shooting spot low key so as not to have a bunch of people trashing the place, don't you think? And why is the trash there even a concern? Is it not people leaving trash behind to begin with? Those of us on this site know enough to pick up our crap (and others crap). Other shooters do it also but there are many more who don't. Its the trash, if everyone was responsible then it wouldn't matter. It is that concern which makes us reluctant to post the locations of good shooting spots. Its not a 1A issue or we don't want more shooters using it, its just trying to keep places like this open for those who are responsible.
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Steele Peak has enough litter-pigs using that spot. It is my goal to get more good folks out there to help with the clean-up and further the sport.

Keeping it a secret won't help, it will only keep your fellow members out.
It seem some folks would rather shoot is that mess than give up the location to Calgun members.

I will fix this.
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Steele Peak has enough litter-pigs using that spot. It is my goal to get more good folks out there to help with the clean-up and further the sport.

Keeping it a secret won't help, it will only keep your fellow members out.
It seem some folks would rather shoot is that mess than give up the location to Calgun members.

I will fix this.
Maybe you should just relax a bit and get to know people here, in past clean ups we have had 70+ people at one time there. All of a sudden you show up and act like we just want to do nothing but keep it a secret. If we kept it a secret then why were the proud volunteers of Calguns presented with this?


There were a group of us there hauling truckloads of trash out the week before Thanksgiving.... where were you? Things are in the works to get a dumster out there in the next couple of months, if you care to help please sign up to the thread when it happens, we would welcome the help.
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Steele Peak has enough litter-pigs using that spot. It is my goal to get more good folks out there to help with the clean-up and further the sport.

Keeping it a secret won't help, it will only keep your fellow members out.
It seem some folks would rather shoot is that mess than give up the location to Calgun members.

I will fix this.
At this point your probably better off doing what you have to do on your own. Organize what ever clean up you want on your own terms and conditions cause it seems you ruffled a lot of feathers on Calguns or you can start a new screen name and try it again now that you know its taboo to post coordinates and directions on forum. I think you mean well but came on too strong

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Steele Peak has enough litter-pigs using that spot. It is my goal to get more good folks out there to help with the clean-up and further the sport.

Keeping it a secret won't help, it will only keep your fellow members out.
It seem some folks would rather shoot is that mess than give up the location to Calgun members.

I will fix this.
No, actually I will fix this. Good bye.
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I am very willing to help clean up and can do so on a regular basis if someone will please PM me directions to the place.
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Anyone hear of an accidental shooting their last Saturday?

Someone was saying they saw an article about it but I couldn't find any info.
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now that you know its taboo to post coordinates and directions on forum.
I don't remember writing that in to the rules.

Nope, just checked, I never did.
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not at the Steele Peak location, but also not far from it...

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/lak13-1228.asp
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not at the Steele Peak location, but also not far from it...

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/lak13-1228.asp
2 incidents or FUD by CBS?

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/...-perris-event/
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I was out there last Sunday. Quite a bit of shooters.

If people learned to clean up a little more than what we put out, then the place would be tidy in no time. Just my 2 cents.
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not sure what "event" was taking place? Saturdays are very busy at Steele Peak. I don't visit the El Torro spot so don't know.
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I don't remember writing that in to the rules.

Nope, just checked, I never did.
Sorry let me corrrect my language " now that you know people on the calguns forum do not like directions being posted publicly on the threads "
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Anyone who posts GPS stuff so the general public can go trash an area should get a Perma-ban.
Sorry, but if you want to be an idiot you should be treated as one. Everyone works hard to keep these places clean.
If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem.

There is NO first amendment rights on a privately owned forum.
I agree 100%.
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Thanks that's probably what that guy was talking about.
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Morning guys and gals of CalGuns,
Went out to Steele Peak yesterday for a few hours. I was both encouraged and discouraged. First, I finally saw the first group of shooters EVER that were diligent in cleaning up the area they were shooting. JUST HAD TO SHAKE THEIR HANDS! They did a great job and I'm sure SOME others do the same. As for the folks that don't seem to give a rats behind or care what others think and continue to leave any crap from their garage they want to shoot the hell out of: PICK UP YOUR CRAP! Take a trash bag, pick up all of the targets and stuff you blew to bits. PICK IT UP!... Don't think BLM won't shut this shooting area down!

One other note: Word is that recently, someone was hit by a round, a frag, a ricochet or something and frankly, with all the new shooters and obviously inexperienced firearm handlers, it's little wonder. I heard dozens of ricochet's from a group that had set up an EZ-up and with all the high powered stuff we like to shoot, those projectiles WILL fly over the hill and hit whatever... hopefully no person or item of value. Don't shoot the rocks!

Our freedoms and liberties are being taken away by a few and given away by the idiots that will not "police" themselves! Please use a few SIMPLE rules:

-Clean up your lane...(the space between where you pull the trigger and your targets)...even if it is other "idiots" junk...and your empties!
-Know what is beyond your down range and strive to NOT SHOOT ROCKS!
-If someone is down range and setting up targets, cleaning up etc. TAKE A
FREEKIN break and hold your fire! Anyone that thinks a projectile or frag isn't going to hang a 90 degree turn and hit someone or something is ignorant! PLEASE BE CONSIDERATE AND SAFE!

We all like to shoot here so don't hesitate to tell other folks to be safe and CLEAN UP! THEY AIN'T GONNA SHOOT YOU...you can be nice about it!

OK, I'm jumpin' off my soapbox...fer now...

So that said...When is the next area clean-up?

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I went out to Steele Peake this morning because I had reloaded some 12 GA rounds and wanted to make sure that they were performing like I wanted.
I'm good to go again. There were alot of guys shooting down by the road {entrance} and I drove up the "hill" and set up the clay pigeon launcher..couple of younger guys shooting next to me....
Guys! Ranger Rick is gonna report back to Palm Springs that Steele Peake
shooters don't appreciate a shooting site and I wouldn't be surprised if we get this site closed down in the future. I guess I'm really old school...I am dumbfounded to why anyone would take "glass bottles out" and shoot and NEVER PICK up a single piece of glass. I shot 3 boxes of 12's...then raked up for a hour and I had a trash can 1/2 full of shotgun rounds. What's with fellow shotgunners...they don't think that once fired hulls should be picked up? The grandson and I just bought 6 lbs of Red Dot and 2000 Winchester 209's and 100 lbs of reclaimed shot. WE NEED this place to shoot and I'm not on a one man campaign to keep this open...I certainly don't want to drive up to Barstow and the open desert area to shoot. Just pick up and take more than what you bring in...you wouldn't litter at home...why would you do on this site what you wouldn't do at home? Have a good evening...
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I went out to Steele Peake this morning because I had reloaded some 12 GA rounds and wanted to make sure that they were performing like I wanted.
I'm good to go again. There were alot of guys shooting down by the road {entrance} and I drove up the "hill" and set up the clay pigeon launcher..couple of younger guys shooting next to me....
Guys! Ranger Rick is gonna report back to Palm Springs that Steele Peake
shooters don't appreciate a shooting site and I wouldn't be surprised if we get this site closed down in the future. I guess I'm really old school...I am dumbfounded to why anyone would take "glass bottles out" and shoot and NEVER PICK up a single piece of glass. I shot 3 boxes of 12's...then raked up for a hour and I had a trash can 1/2 full of shotgun rounds. What's with fellow shotgunners...they don't think that once fired hulls should be picked up? The grandson and I just bought 6 lbs of Red Dot and 2000 Winchester 209's and 100 lbs of reclaimed shot. WE NEED this place to shoot and I'm not on a one man campaign to keep this open...I certainly don't want to drive up to Barstow and the open desert area to shoot. Just pick up and take more than what you bring in...you wouldn't litter at home...why would you do on this site what you wouldn't do at home? Have a good evening...
Don't forget the clay pigeons are a "no no" and are considered littering.
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Be advised also, that per the leo rangers who were at the first clean up, shooting at the lower area is against the law and you may be cited. The reasons is that area is not 150yrds. from the road as required.

Yes, I know a lot of people shoot there, especially those whose vehicles won't make it up the hill, but per them, it is still illegal. Just a fyi.
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