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Old 01-31-2013, 11:27 AM
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Especially when you have scissors and a desk to hide under?

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Old 01-31-2013, 11:52 AM
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So if they're saying it's okay to use a weapon to protect ones self, then why not a firearm? I'll tell you why, #1) It makes to much sense #2) You can't use a gun to trim your daily reports. With all joking aside, this administration's ultimate goal is to disarm all Americans. They don't want you to have the same fire power or near that of which the Goverment has.
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So if they're saying it's okay to use a weapon to protect ones self, then why not a firearm? I'll tell you why, #1) It makes to much sense #2) You can't use a gun to trim your daily reports. With all joking aside, this administration's ultimate goal is to disarm all Americans. They don't want you to have the same fire power or near that of which the Goverment has.

They don't want you to have the same fire power or near that of which the criminals have.
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The new "duck and cover." It was just a matter of time...
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Traditionally , compact handguns are self defense weapons of choice for most people who ACTUALLY CARRY loaded handguns.

Compact handgun is a very handy thing to have with You for emergencies.
I carry off duty all the time.
Other people should be able to do the same.
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they might as well say please line up and die in a orderly fashion
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That's worse than taking a knife to a gun fight, and everyone knows how well that works out.

On the other hand, those scissors looked evil to me.... Did you notice the oversized black thumbhole handles and the pointy thing at the end? Won't be long before we have assault scissors bans being proposed.....
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Guys this really is not bad advice at all using scissors.

When the "disturbed gunman" has stopped firing his "Military Assult Machine Gun" that "sprays a 1,000 bullets at second" to load his "100 round clip" . . . you could run at him with your scissors and disarm him.

I will need to contact my mother first to get permission as she always told me "never run with scissors". Also I will need to file a CCW application and see if Blackhawk makes a concealed carry scissor pouch.

Can I have 10 scissors or only 7 ??
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So if they're saying it's okay to use a weapon to protect ones self, then why not a firearm? I'll tell you why, #1) It makes to much sense #2) You can't use a gun to trim your daily reports. With all joking aside, this administration's ultimate goal is to disarm all Americans. They don't want you to have the same fire power or near that of which the Goverment has.
All while they are seeking to buy 7000 5.56mm select-fire "personal defense weapons" suitable at close quarters. Hmmmm......
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Yeah but. Next thing you know some kid is going to show up with assault scissors, stab some people and then we'll have to have a senate hearing regarding scissor regulation or banning scissoring altogether.

Man, the lesbo's will be PISSED!
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Oh, the irony.... Columbus woman attacks neighbor with scissors
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I have a different take on dhs's psa. I understand the need to provide victims/citizens on what to generally expect and how they need to react to the first responder's commands/instructions in an active-shooter scenario. First responders will generally treat everyone as suspect because badguys have been known to blend into the chaotic and frightened crowd. I understand the need to encourage UNFIREARMED citizens/victims via a psa to arm themselves with some kind of improvised weapon ie. scissors, broomstick, knife, cue balls, hammer, etc. to defend themselves because if this: Not all people have the warrior mentality to think on their feet and go on the offensive or do what they need to do in the defensive when their lives are in danger.

These types of innocent people, believe it or not, will tend to be paralyzed with fear in the chaos and tend to do nothing to defend themselves...and...based on my own guesstimate, there are more sheep than there are sheepdogs.

So why not give the innocent sheep ideas and encourage them to DO SOMETHING to help them think for themselves in the face of a hostile life-threatening event? Lets call it training...train like you want to fight....fight as you have trained. Not everyone wants to carry a firearm....and depending on where, not everyone could, 2A or not.

So....preparing yourself with scissors, barricading, et al is better than just giving up while standing in your puddle of fear-induced urine awaiting your demise. Fight to the end...and you could come out the victor/survivor. Some people just need to reminded of this...and perhaps often via a psa.

I don't see anywhere in dhs's psa where they are advocating the disarming law-abiding citizens as some of the paranoid have opined it to be.
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Among Murphy's 15 other laws:

"Those who live by the scissors get shot by those who don't."

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next up for a ban... assault scissors!
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Where can I take Ninja tactical scissor training courses? Better hope you can throw the scissors into the perps eye ball faster than a bullet.
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The scissors just might work. The "assaulter" will be laughing so hard, he would be an easy target for someone with a large book.
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My pop shared a quote with me from somewhere/someone...
I'm sure many have heard it before, but:

"A gun is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one, you'll likely never need one again."

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My pop shared a quote with me from somewhere/someone...
I'm sure many have heard it before, but:

"A gun is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one, you'll likely never need one again."

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i like that quote there!
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My pop shared a quote with me from somewhere/someone...
I'm sure many have heard it before, but:

"A gun is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one, you'll likely never need one again."

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Your pop is an amazing man to share that

I'm not going to need a gun if the government is going to provide my family and I 24/7 armed security.
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"I'm not going to need a gun if the government is going to provide my family and I 24/7 armed security."


All the more reason to have one.
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They will ban scissors next anyway.
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How about the bad guy gets the scissors, and everyone else gets a gun?

Sounds good, pass a law.
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Especially when you have scissors and a desk to hide under?

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“If you are caught out in the open and cannot conceal yourself or take cover, you might consider trying to overpower the shooter with whatever means are available,”

You're right. Better to cower in fear and do nothing. Worked really well for the passengers on 9/11.
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I've never NEEDED one (Thankfully) But I WANT a whole truckload!!!! or boatload!!!
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"I've never NEEDED one (Thankfully) But I WANT a whole truckloads!!!! or boatloads!!!"

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They will ban scissors next anyway.
It's already started in the UK:
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

Edit: previous link is from 2005, here's one from last month: UK Doctors call for ban on kitchen knives
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Scissors wouldn't have helped this guy:

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Sheri...189198001.html


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The second amendment doesn't say anything about "need". Exercising a constitutional right does not require a "need". Nor is the purpose of the amendment hunting or sporting. The amendment is clearly the final check in a system of checks and balances.
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Fantastic. Think of all the tax dollars we'll save replacing our soldier's and marine's obsolete rifles with hi tech tactical scissors.

Better watch out Taliban.



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If you bring scissors to work for purposes of protection have you violated the company's no weapons policy? I wouldn't be surprised if that falls under California's no dirk/dagger law.

I believe there is no moral difference between someone who fights with scissors or someone who fights with a gun. I believe most people have a line, a line that beyond which they will fight with every weapon and tool and they will bite and kick and scream. I'm sure the line is in different places with different people.

Maybe this PSA is a good thing. Maybe people will think about their children and their lives and realize that if they would stab someone with scissors that they'd really rather have a gun.
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Hey guys, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the scissors. If you purchase the proper models, they are aerodynamically similar to a shuriken. Due to my high-stress job demands I had to get a black belt in Shurikenjutsu and in one of my Sensai's demonstrations he impaled one of the student's hands to the wall with a pair of Kenchii Throwing Scissors for talking back to him. I promptly ordered 10 boxes of those for myself and my coworkers due to their ease of concealment and low profile in the work environment (you can't explain having shurikens laying around on your desk now can you?).

Basically with the proper training anyone can become an assassin with common household items...you should see what my Sensai can do with nail clippers.
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The second amendment doesn't say anything about "need". Exercising a constitutional right does not require a "need". Nor is the purpose of the amendment hunting or sporting. The amendment is clearly the final check in a system of checks and balances.
But...but....isn't it the "Bill of Needs, Wants, and Nice to haves"?

And it's optional anyway....I mean, there are 10 of them so the government can choose which ones it wants - why else would there be 10? Surely no one "needs" 10 rights....
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Then when scissors are banned next, you are stuck with only your car keys left. See where this is going?

Then they ban the car keys, which has the added benefit of reducing global warming, because we all ride bicycles. Yeah that's their diabolical plan.

Oh, and every winter......Here comes global cooling.
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Who "needs" a gun?

There is no bill of needs.
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