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Old 01-30-2013, 8:12 PM
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Do you hide your firearms?
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Do you find cover and fortify?
Do you call 9-1-1?


Just curious after watching the NRA video documenting what happened in New Orleans. I am not sure what I would do? I would hope I would have enough of a heads up to remove myself and my firearms before this would happen.In the meantime signed up as a NRA lifetime member.
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50% of people will hand em over.
40% of people will claim a boating accident and have none. They WILL get arrested and held against there will because of the patriot act.
10% of people will say no and stand.

IMHO........... You can claim consitution will protect you from them taking them. BUT in reality they are breaking it, so why WOULDNT they hold you against your will?
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Did they document where the old ladie's antique handled revolver ended up? In the personal collection of a CHP officer?

You bet!
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My guess is there would be no knock on the door - Obama's Brown Shirts would just burst in at 3am and hold you at machine gun point while they ransacked the place. Once that happened to the first guy, every Home Depot in the country would be sold out of PVC pipe, caps and post hole diggers that very day...
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I will keep my opinions and my actions to myself, You can read about what some of us would do in the morning paper.
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Ain't gonna happen. There's not enough manpower or more importantly MONEY to carry out confiscation on that scale. Even if they TRIED it, who would actually go out and perform the confiscation? Obama? Biden? Feinstein? There are plenty of LEO and military who have said they would never follow those orders. Even if it isn't all of them, there would be enough to cause disorder in their ranks.

I don't see confiscation happening...
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Per James Yeager:

"If it goes one inch further, I'm gonna start killing people."

But that's just internet tough talk...the next day you call you lawyer, put on your "formal" affliction t-shirt and make a mea culpa video.

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Why would they use the brute force approach.
Simply issue an arrest warrant for everyone that has ever submitted to more than one background check. When you are eventually pulled over for a "routine" traffic stop, the nice officer will arrest you. Then put you in front of a judge, quickly, and you would be told you have 24 hrs to prove you've turned in your guns to the local enforcers or you'll be charged with a felony w/a correspondingly high bail since your a danger to the public.
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I've had a couple of homebrew stouts but...... anyway it wouldn't end well for anyone. I advise they just leave sleeping giants alone.
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Why dont you try and ask me the day after?
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Why would they use the brute force approach.
Simply issue an arrest warrant for everyone that has ever submitted to more than one background check. When you are eventually pulled over for a "routine" traffic stop, the nice officer will arrest you. Then put you in front of a judge, quickly, and you would be told you have 24 hrs to prove you've turned in your guns to the local enforcers or you'll be charged with a felony w/a correspondingly high bail since your a danger to the public.
Exactly. All this confiscation talk is laughable. Asinine. The government isn't nearly as dumb as that.
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Exactly. All this confiscation talk is laughable. Asinine. The government isn't nearly as dumb as that.
Its happend elsewere alot.
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Why would they use the brute force approach.
Simply issue an arrest warrant for everyone that has ever submitted to more than one background check. When you are eventually pulled over for a "routine" traffic stop, the nice officer will arrest you. Then put you in front of a judge, quickly, and you would be told you have 24 hrs to prove you've turned in your guns to the local enforcers or you'll be charged with a felony w/a correspondingly high bail since your a danger to the public.
It would only work for the first few.
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The CA DoJ just said today they have identified over 19k prohibited persons with registered firearms and they don't have the 'funding' to go collect them.
What makes you think that they would have the manpower or funding to do it to the hundreds of thousands of gun owners in the state?

I'm not concerned about the fed AWB, as it stands it's dead in the water.
That said, if Yee's AW redefinition bill passes, then depending on final language, my firearms will either be modified (within reason) to comply or will get sent to family out of state for safekeeping for the time being.

I will NOT register an AW in the state nor will I illegally possess one.
I'm not a criminal, I've only ever had 2 traffic tickets in my life no other police contact. If this state wants to make me one and succeeds in doing so, I don't see why they should receive my tax dollars or anything else, I would reluctantly consider moving.
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I'd say " Wow....there's 10 of you (cops) against 1 of me so that doesn't seem quite fair. Looks like you're gonna have to go get more guys". Then I would shut the door.
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It would only work for the first few.
Based on your signature, it would work on you.

You've failed to explain your position in any manner.
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My cousin who is a marine says they have been doing civilian confiscation drills the last 8 months. Any other Devil DOgs have any input?
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The CA DoJ just said today they have identified over 19k prohibited persons with registered firearms and they don't have the 'funding' to go collect them.
What makes you think that they would have the manpower or funding to do it to the hundreds of thousands of gun owners in the state?

That's to help with the ammo tax. -to pay for the collection-

That number seems fishy also.

How exactly would a person end up in that situation? -one of the 19k-
Be a released convict and go buy one with the corresponding BC??
Or have a registered weapon and get convicted of something???
What, their parole officer can't go to their house?
Do we have some percentage of the 19k with mental problems and currently armed?
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My cousin who is a marine says they have been doing civilian confiscation drills the last 8 months. Any other Devil DOgs have any input?
please take video and forward it to all media outlets -return receipt requested


Don't you know this is for missions in foreign countries? they'd never do that in the US.
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That's to help with the ammo tax. -to pay for the collection-

That number seems fishy also.

How exactly would a person end up in that situation? -one of the 19k-
Be a released convict and go buy one with the corresponding BC??
Or have a registered weapon and get convicted of something???
What, their parole officer can't go to their house?
Do we have some percentage of the 19k with mental problems and currently armed?
I agree the number is fishy. I don't have any of the answers to these questions, I'm only stating what they released today.
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It would be interesting to see the news broadcast of LEO's with M16's going door to door collecting civilians' AR's.....

Wait, that's a nightmare for both parties.
And pretty obvious that method would not work.
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Ain't gonna happen. There's not enough manpower or more importantly MONEY to carry out confiscation on that scale. Even if they TRIED it, who would actually go out and perform the confiscation? Obama? Biden? Feinstein? There are plenty of LEO and military who have said they would never follow those orders. Even if it isn't all of them, there would be enough to cause disorder in their ranks.

I don't see confiscation happening...
Maybe confiscating weapons could earn somebody legal residency?

I'll activate my trap door...leading to Detroit!
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My guess is there would be no knock on the door - Obama's Brown Shirts would just burst in at 3am and hold you at machine gun point while they ransacked the place. Once that happened to the first guy, every Home Depot in the country would be sold out of PVC pipe, caps and post hole diggers that very day...
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My cousin who is a marine says they have been doing civilian confiscation drills the last 8 months. Any other Devil DOgs have any input?
If that is indeed the case, and I have no reason to doubt you, it is a very significant development.

And not a good one.
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Now that's just plain cruel
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Ain't gonna happen. There's not enough manpower or more importantly MONEY to carry out confiscation on that scale. Even if they TRIED it, who would actually go out and perform the confiscation? Obama? Biden? Feinstein? There are plenty of LEO and military who have said they would never follow those orders. Even if it isn't all of them, there would be enough to cause disorder in their ranks.

I don't see confiscation happening...
You really think MONEY is going to stop this?

If they decide they are coming for your gun, trust me, its already been "budgeted" and truth be told, we have not really had a budget in 6 years, so, so much for that being any sort of restriction.

You're not going to successfully take on the US military. Not gonna happen.
I know the intent of 2A was to keep tyrannical govies in check, but technology now dictates otherwise. If the Gov has control of the military, you do not have a chance. However, if the Gov DOESN'T control the military, or we are now in the LAND OF MAD MAX...well, then the AR and ammo you have might actually be useful.

Anyone suggesting otherwise, has seen Rambo too many times.

Just my opinion, but i spent 22 years in the Navy, and I have been to Iraq twice, (it was ****ty both times) I wouldn't want to take on the US Military.

I live in LA, they burn cars when the Lakers WIN. If the SHTF here, and life as we know it implodes, this town is going to eat itself alive. For that, I'll be ready.
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Just from reading various forums, including a couple of cop forums, and another I found called the Shadow Spear Special Ops forum, it appears most cops and soldiers want nothing to do with any possible future firearms confiscations.
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I don't see a door to door approach. The mentality of the libs is to make grand changes that don't involve force. What they are trying to do is have guns banned in one generation. Make laws so that the grandfathered guns of today are not able to be transferred or willed after our expiration. For us gun owners today, it will be our son's/daughter's'/grandchildren/wive's that will more than likely be faced with that decision.
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Do you hide your firearms?
Do you hand them over?
Do you find cover and fortify?
Do you call 9-1-1?
I decided a long time ago that when they come to confiscate my firearms, that's the day I die, but I ain't go'n alone.
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Ain't gonna happen. There's not enough manpower or more importantly MONEY to carry out confiscation on that scale. Even if they TRIED it, who would actually go out and perform the confiscation? Obama? Biden? Feinstein? There are plenty of LEO and military who have said they would never follow those orders. Even if it isn't all of them, there would be enough to cause disorder in their ranks. I don't see confiscation happening...
Wishful thinking at best.
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You really think MONEY is going to stop this?

If they decide they are coming for your gun, trust me, its already been "budgeted" and truth be told, we have not really had a budget in 6 years, so, so much for that being any sort of restriction.

You're not going to successfully take on the US military. Not gonna happen.
I know the intent of 2A was to keep tyrannical govies in check, but technology now dictates otherwise. If the Gov has control of the military, you do not have a chance. However, if the Gov DOESN'T control the military, or we are now in the LAND OF MAD MAX...well, then the AR and ammo you have might actually be useful.

Anyone suggesting otherwise, has seen Rambo too many times.

Just my opinion, but i spent 22 years in the Navy, and I have been to Iraq twice, (it was ****ty both times) I wouldn't want to take on the US Military.

I live in LA, they burn cars when the Lakers WIN. If the SHTF here, and life as we know it implodes, this town is going to eat itself alive. For that, I'll be ready.
Cool it Hudson! Just relax!

No one said anything about taking on the US military, no one here is saying that, so don't get all offended. Again, I don't think the US military or local law enforcement will support confiscation on ANY scale. Even if some of them wanted to, it would be sporadic and would lead to unrest within their own ranks.

Confiscation is just the largest piece of tinfoil hattery ever conceived by man. And, here's my take on the confiscation talk: it's all morbid fantasy stuff from people with a death wish that want to go out by the way of death-by-cop/soldier. If you guys TRULY thought that armed confiscation was possible then why are you guys holding onto your weapons? Throw them into the river now! Do it for your loved ones!...........................See, you don't because you're either just jerking this SHTF fantasy off, you're super-paranoid or like I said you want to go out in a blaze of glory.

The confiscation bit is laughable and I might do so right now, but I'm holding a mojito and don't want to waste any of it...
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