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Old 01-30-2013, 8:08 AM
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Default 2013 CA AB 202 - Donnelly - School security: School Marshal Program - Dead 5/22/13

5/22/2013 - Bill failed passage in the Education committee on 4/17/2013 - bill returned to the desk today without further action. Bill dead.

Looks like it establishes something similar to the Federal Flight Desk Officer program (armed aircrew).

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...arch_keywords=

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AB 202, as introduced, Donnelly. School security: School Marshal Program.


(1) Existing law authorizes the governing board of a school district to establish a security department or a school police department and authorizes specified moneys transferred into the general fund of any school district to be used for the training of persons employed and compensated as members of a police department of a school district, as specified.

This bill would establish the School Marshal Program and would authorize school districts, county offices of education, and charter schools to use general purpose funds to provide training to a school marshal. The bill would define a school marshal as a school employee who, in accordance with the Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1995 and pursuant to locally adopted policies, is authorized to possess a firearm at a schoolsite or designated school activities.

(2) Existing law, the California Public Records Act, requires state and local agencies to make public records available for inspection, subject to specified criteria, and with certain exceptions. Existing law excludes from disclosure certain information contained in applications for licenses to, and licenses to, carry firearms submitted by prosecutors, public defenders, peace officers, judges, court commissioners, and magistrates, to county sheriffs and the chiefs or other heads of municipal police departments.

This bill would exclude from disclosure the personally identifiable information set forth in applications for a license to, and the license to, carry firearms submitted by a school marshal to the sheriff of a county or the chief or other head of a municipal police department. By increasing duties on county sheriffs and the chiefs or other heads of municipal police departments, the bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

(3) The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement.

This bill would provide that, if the Commission on State Mandates determines that the bill contains costs mandated by the state, reimbursement for those costs shall be made pursuant to these statutory provisions.

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Vote: MAJORITY Appropriation: NO Fiscal Committee: YES Local Program: YES
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Old 01-30-2013, 8:56 AM
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Wow a bill that actually addresses the problem. Unfortunately also one that probably won't pass... They'd rather just blame lawful gun owners.
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Old 01-30-2013, 9:17 AM
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Tim is not going to get anywhere with this one. They don't need his votes for anything down there, and they certainly aren't going to support him for any other reason
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Old 01-30-2013, 7:02 PM
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Despite its likelihood to fail, we should all show our support. This is going on in other states which sets a precedent. Contact your representatives and show support.

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Old 05-22-2013, 10:51 PM
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Bill failed in Education committee - returned to the desk. Bill considered dead.
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Of course a bill like this would fail in the dumbocrat dominated Komiefornia. Is anyone really surprised?
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Old 05-23-2013, 4:39 AM
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Of course the Democrats sunk this bill. It would interfere with crafting a narrative that 'guns are bad' after a mass murderer stalks into a California school, drilling six-year olds huddled with their unarmed teacher in their classroom. In order to ensure a 'gun-free society' they intend to outrage everyone with the blood of the most innocent, claiming the only thing that can be done is disarmament.
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Old 05-23-2013, 4:57 AM
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I sure if things were somehow reversed; the usual suspects would use a vote like this to blame us for anyone shot at a school going forward.

What's really wrong is I sort of buy it to some degree. Yes; the anti's want more pictures of kids hurt by people using guns...
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Old 05-23-2013, 5:59 AM
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Typical Dem BS why address the problem with a law that will work, when you can write a law that will not fix the problem but will strip law abiding citizens of their rights "its for the children".

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Old 05-23-2013, 6:29 AM
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This bill was so far fetched from the scope of reality in this state, at this time, that it was a complete and utter waste of effort. The author, the party, and the very concept itself are all reviled by the majority in both houses.
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Old 05-23-2013, 6:35 AM
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California is one of the leftist capitols of America, and its schools are the foundation of the leftist indoctrination movement.

As far as the schools are concerned, its better for society if every single staff member and student died in a mass shooting then to even permit the IMAGE of a firearm on the campus grounds. Because self defense is the domain of criminals, naturally.
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Old 05-23-2013, 6:44 AM
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As far as the schools are concerned, its better for society if every single staff member and student died in a mass shooting then to even permit the IMAGE of a firearm on the campus grounds. Because self defense is the domain of criminals, naturally.
That's probably what it would take really; with the added casualty of the majority of the victims comprised of gays, immigrants, latinos, and democrats
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They want more dead kids. It serves their purposes.
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Pretty much anything whose author has an R after his or her name is DOA in Sacramento. This was not a surprise.
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the bill "infringes" on LEO's turf, and going against the no gun message of antis...

no wonder it died...

did anyone hear the report that it took 20 minutes for London cops to show up after the serviceman got butchered yesterday?
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the bill "infringes" on LEO's turf, and going against the no gun message of antis...

no wonder it died...

did anyone hear the report that it took 20 minutes for London cops to show up after the serviceman got butchered yesterday?
LEOs had nothing to do with it. CA has had very similar legislation already on the books since 1990 something.

You are right about the anti's though. If school shootings stopped, they would have any dead children's bodies to dance on.
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