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Old 01-27-2013, 9:14 PM
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was in turners reseda over the weekend. they had some lowers just in and plenty of buyers lined up. gun shelves pretty empty. mostly a few .44 revolvers and several 1911 types, and some .22's. racks were barren of anything remotely bannable, but plenty of bolt rifles and shotguns. ammo was the same, if you needed .270 or .40S&W you were fine.

I can see why all those people rushed out to buy lowers. probably most were thinking they'd resell in some time. since the lower is the only important piece, so to speak. I'd bet less than half those bought get built, at least by their original buyers. especially once they see what it takes to build a decent AR. both skill and money.

are there things I'd like to purchase? yeah, but nothing that's immediately threatened. I'd like to get a .357 revolver and lever rifle, .243 bolt, .22 revolver, another 10/22. right now I need to stock up components to make sure I can reload/shoot what I've got.

I give it another couple of months. but the worst is behind us. once reality sets in. in fact, I'd bet that it'll become really, really cheap in a year to build an AR.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:29 PM
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I think it is simmering down a little. Not alot but just a little. Give it another year and things will be good. By that time most people already got what they were after and people started second guessing that 3k basic AR. The only thing I'm really worried about is if gun stuff goes the way of gas, "if people will buy it anyways, the why lower the prices?"

Only thing that gets under my skin is the price gouge on ammo and people hoarding it.
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no ammo, no ebrs.... prices through the roof...... i honestly think we are in the dark ages for a couple more months..... then i hope people that bought stuff sell out of need for money..... but thats in a perfect world....
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The music stopped and I was left with out a Sub2000...I think I might have to trade two AR's for one Sub2000 now.
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I don't think most of Feinstein's crap will pass, except for maybe universal background checks and possibly high capacity mag bans. What worries me is what legislation is going to sail through in CA due to the supermajority. Will Yee get his way?
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Old 01-28-2013, 8:51 AM
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I don't think demand has subsided. Ammo is still priced pretty high (hoping this isn't the new norm), most type of guns are in short supply, and mags are nearly impossible to find from dealers and distributors.

I got an email from 44mag for glock 17 mags, checked 10 minutes later and they were out of stock. I'm sure there was a delay from when they actually got the mags to when the emails went out, but it is just one example of people still constantly scanning for desirable items
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Went into Turners West Covina this afternoon just to check something. Small number of customers, I pulled number 33 and had to wait all of 1 minute for service. Then checked on the ammo. Much more in stock then about 10 days ago, though some calibers were not available. Prices still holding, a good sign. I did not take a long look, just a quick glance and the supply of handguns on display seemed to be close to normal.

Maybe the insanity is leaving!
Yeah not even close. Waited for 2 hours at the Turners in Kearny Mesa yesterday just to pick up a stripped lower. There was like 12 hand guns in the whole store. The rest shotguns and Bolt actions. No ammo except .45 and .308. All the AR parts were sold out except for 1 competition trigger and a couple Troy Industry rails. They were fully stocked on tasers though! =\

The rep that helped me out there just said to be patient. Basically said 2-3 more months of this was their feel.
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Big drive for ammo right now. In a few months most people will forget about this and ammo will be back on the market
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No ammo except .45 and .308.
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I bet its 2 years before ammo prices are "normal" and prolly wont go below 400.00 per 1k of 556.
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When this insanity is over I’m going to stock 10,000 rounds of reloading supplies on hand, and then order another 5K worth as my usable inventory, and never let it fall below 10K ever again. I’ve had to curtail my shooting to “matches” only.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:32 AM
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I'm curious how and of the LGS' can stay in business for very long. They cannot get much of anything to sell. Hard to pay the bills without any product to sell. Hope the panic buying tapers off for all our sakes.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:58 AM
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Nope...someone just purchased a m&p 15 at the local dealer for $1,999 and it is used.
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I bet its 2 years before ammo prices are "normal" and prolly wont go below 400.00 per 1k of 556.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it won't, but based on the last time, I totally agree with this statement. Ammo never came back down to even close to pre '08 prices.
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Panic is easing up, I can now park at Turner's when I go to Turner's.
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I'm curious how and of the LGS' can stay in business for very long. They cannot get much of anything to sell. Hard to pay the bills without any product to sell. Hope the panic buying tapers off for all our sakes.
im guessing that the additional money they made off the panic will keep the lights on, the rent paid, and future inventory...lay off as many employees as necessary and rehire when things get back to normal...just a guess though..
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There is no shortage !!! What we have now is called BUBBLE. Whether its going to burst, or soft landing is another thing.
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Old 01-28-2013, 2:41 PM
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No it has not subsided. Just go look at the private sale on here. People want 1500 for just the uppers, geezuz. The only way it's going to subside will be when it's over.
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There is no shortage !!! What we have now is called BUBBLE. Whether its going to burst, or soft landing is another thing.
agreed.

i also wonder how many of these "panic" buyers failed the background check
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I'm curious how and of the LGS' can stay in business for very long. They cannot get much of anything to sell. Hard to pay the bills without any product to sell. Hope the panic buying tapers off for all our sakes.
Well here's the thing then, since they can't get any new inventory due to the panic, they have to sell what they do have at crazy prices and that's what they do.

They will have to stop sticking up their noses at those paltry $10 profit PPTs and maybe start doing more out of state FFL transfers for less.

LGSs seem to really crank up the price on FFL transfers, so you'll buy THEIR gun, not the one you want to buy on Buds. But there are only so many ways an FFL can make money, right?

Also, maybe they'll have to try and start carrying reloading gear OR other shooting related stuff.

Since they know there are a crap ton of NEW shooters, maybe those new shooters will need accessories?! Like safes, targets, cleaning kits, etc, etc, etc...
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This is the same panic of 2008 when ammo and AR's were scarce. Heck I couldn't give a LMT MWS away in November, now people want to pay $5,000.00 for one...

223 for $1.00 a round?? That won't last.

If Yee gets his way AR's will soar in CA pre ban, but afterward the AR market in guns and ammo will be as depressed as condo's in las vegas.....

Don't panic....
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The Local gun stores here in Fresno are completely sold out still. Ammunition is VERY low. I am having good luck buying online though. By the looks of things, things are getting much better here.
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Ammo here in Ventura is getting easier to come by. Between Island View and Blueline I can find more or less anything I want. Haven't checked the Wal-Mart in Oxnard lately but Turners was pretty much empty last weekend.
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Was in the LGS last night and they were stocking more 9mm on the shelf before the previous shipment had sold out. First time I've seen that in a while. $16.49/50
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:23 AM
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What i find interesting is that the panic is mostly centralized to Internet stores and major local retailers like walmart and big5. At local gun stores and ranges they always seem to have it plentiful at a moderate mark up.

Can you buy ammo by paying a little more? yes. When will you see a fully stocked walmart shelf? 2014
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I'm ammused and I think the panic is setting in with the hoarders who are trying to upsell their supply in the ammo sales section.

Just watching it sit
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:36 AM
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I dont mean to beat a dead horse, but aren't some "real shooters" also panic buying? As a CA resident, i'm a little worried about things like the ammo tax.

In short, i will keep buying ammo at reasonable prices as long as i can knowing that it will most likely only continue to get more expensive in the future.
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Sad thing is that I was in WalMart this week and a guy in front of me was there with friends buying 22LR, 223, 9mm, 45 etc and he doesn't even have weapons that would shoot it. They were buying in order to resell at higher prices 9mm $50-$60 box and 45 - $60-$80. People need to stop panic buying like this to stop these guys. I don't need it that bad..... and there is ammo out there in many places.
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I predict this is the calm before the storm...
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No it is not
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Maybe when you went they had just stocked that day or the day before. Did you go back the next day to check? Panic buying will never stop in CA unless the bills stops us.
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I woud say not yet, but signs are hopeful... I was at my LGS today and they had 100+ boxes of .22lr for $5.00 and even more 9mm for $19.00... They even had 4 boxes of CCI for $4.00 (I bought 2, the limit)... Prices are still high bit at least there is stuff to buy..

Glad I stocked up before this crap started
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Seems like things may be getting a little better. I at least have a chance to check out for an online purchase before things sell out. I've even seen some bulk cans of various ammo selling for reasonable prices.

Dont mean to get everyone's hopes up reactivating this thread. Just felt silly starting a new one.
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Sad thing is that I was in WalMart this week and a guy in front of me was there with friends buying 22LR, 223, 9mm, 45 etc and he doesn't even have weapons that would shoot it. They were buying in order to resell at higher prices 9mm $50-$60 box and 45 - $60-$80. People need to stop panic buying like this to stop these guys. I don't need it that bad..... and there is ammo out there in many places.
That's neither sad nor is it panic buying. It's the use of a free market system to make some coin.
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Lots of rifle ammo and shotgun shells available here. But there hasn't been any handgun ammo for months.
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Until I can go into any Walmart at any time and buy .22lr, 9mm, or .223/5.56, the panic is not over.
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panic is still slowing, but then you have those that learned to engage their hording instincts, so it seems as though we're still in a drought.

Only way is to react fast on a deal, or go early and check often. Otherwise, you'll be like the rest of us and shoot sparingly
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It will be over when you can buy bulk again without getting a loan. My guy says by this fall things should be better.
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In the last three weeks, I have scored over 2k rounds of .22 for nearly per panic prices. It's out there if you're willing to search and are patient.
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i feel it's slightly better
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