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Old 01-15-2013, 7:42 PM
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Default MAJOR Newbie question sorry - DROS and PPT fees

Sorry for such a newbie question. I've done a few purchases / sales in the last few years but now I'm considering getting my FFL. In CA there seems to be a fixed price on DROS of $25 and PPT of $35.

Where does the money go?

Is that simply a fixed price the FFLs can charge buyers and transfers to ensure they don't spike the price with BS charges(basically all the money goes to the FFL)? Or does some of that money actually go back to the state or federal gov?

I did look through the FAQs for FFLs and customers of FFLs but maybe I missed that one.

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DROS = $25 fee (fixed amount set by CA DOJ):
$19 CA DOJ fee
$1 Firearms Safety Testing fee
$5 Safety & Enforcement fee

Private Party Transfer (PPT) = $35 fee
$25 DROS fee
$10 Dealer fee (maximum allowed by law)

Standard Transfer (firearm is shipped to dealer/online/out-of-state) = $$$ fee
$25 DROS fee
$$$ Dealer fee (no mandatory limits, dealer can legally charge as much as they want)
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Thank you for the response. Here's my challenge.

Because I've lived in CA too long, I don't know if this is simply a set limit FFLs must follow when charging for DROS and PPT or or if our state expects a payment of some of these fees.

Example: $25 DROS fee - does 100% of this go in to the FFLs pocket or does some of it go back to the DOJ or CA per transaction? I know "the only thing for sure is death and taxes" but I mean other than standard biz taxes, does DOJ or CA get a chunk of the fee?

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The $25 goes directly to the state, distributed to designated funds in the State coffers as 19/1/5, as Quiet listed.

Anything labeled 'dealer fee' or anything other than DROS (except tax, that goes to the state, too) goes to the dealer.
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Old 01-15-2013, 9:53 PM
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So... basically any dealer that makes a sale on a firearm(filling out all the paperwork/computer/3yr logging) has to markup the gun to try to include the transaction costs. Anyone who does a PPT is making $10 on a transaction that probably takes 30 mins in paperwork/computer+logging to complete($20/hr).

If this is the case, I have a new found respect for my local FFLs. Might need to throw a few extra $$ their way in components/accessories.
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If it is not a PPT, then the FFL can charge any fees that they want. It could be added to the price of the firearm, or separate. Often customers look for the lowest price, but don't always do the complete comparison (transfer fees). So, a FFL could sell a firearm from their inventory and charge the same fee as a transfer to do the paperwork, or all the fees could be included.

A PPT is limited at $10 total to the FFL. If you look at the complete time to do it, it most likely does not amount to $20/hour. Remember, the person has to come back to pick it up and all of it has to be logged in the bound book. Also, the customer might talk a bit, taking longer.
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Thank you for helping to clarify.
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