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Old 01-23-2013, 7:03 AM
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Default GLOCKS ONLY LAST 4 YEARS!

At least according to the Knoxville police...
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/ja...rvice-weapons/
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Old 01-23-2013, 7:08 AM
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At least according to the Knoxville police...
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/ja...rvice-weapons/
I carry a Glock on and off duty for 19 years. I know that Glock in 9mm will last MUCH longer than many other pistols.

G22 in .40 a weapon of choice in LE today.

G35 is used a lot in action pistol matches .

I don't know how they came up with 4 years....

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Old 01-23-2013, 7:18 AM
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Going from 15 rounds to 8 must be very exciting for the officers...

Don't get me wrong i love .45 acp too, but you have so many more options with a .40 or a 9 in terms of capacity and weight.
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Old 01-23-2013, 7:34 AM
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Maybe, hopefully, they will allow the officers to choose between the department issue weapon and keeping the Glock they used to issue. Or buying one of the Glock 22's themselves and using it instead of the Sig. I for one would want the extra magazine capacity for that one instance when you may need it. It's not possible to have too many bullets in a gun fight.
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Old 01-23-2013, 7:36 AM
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They just wanted new guns.
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Old 01-23-2013, 7:38 AM
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The Marines ordered new Colt 1911's. Makes me want to get a 45 acp!
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Haha some of the comments just make me wanna hit something, oh the ignorance.
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Old 01-23-2013, 7:53 AM
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Gun shop just saying anything to get contract " Glock has a life of four years while the Sig Sauer is expected to perform for 10 years" i call BS does that mean all glock owners needs to replace their pistol after 4 years? i know Sig Sauer are good quality pistols but glocks are not bad as what people says.
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Old 01-23-2013, 8:07 AM
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If .45 caliber it the new goal for this Department I would rather have a GEN4 G21 with 13 rounds than a SIG.

Just my preference.
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I must be doing something wrong, since my Glocks are still working for 4+ years.
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Haha some of the comments just make me wanna hit something, oh the ignorance.
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I like where one guy said the Sig is a superior weapon because you can tell if it's cocked by looking at it

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I carry a Glock on and off duty for 19 years.
Yep. Same here (since mid '90s). I've only needed to change the extractor, and that was probably around 2005 (last year I did the trigger return spring and recoil spring, but just a routine - no performance issues).
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Old 01-23-2013, 8:19 AM
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my glocks from 96-98 w/3000 rounds still run GREAATT!!
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Old 01-23-2013, 8:19 AM
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They just wanted new guns.
+1 ROFL....

I own two sets of Glocks (17/19/26 and 22/23/27) and a few SIG's; P220 (3), P226 (3) and P228 (2), all German made. My personal CCW weapon options are : SIG P228, SIG P220 or a Colt Combat Commander .45. My "car gun" is a Glock 23 with night sights. The Glocks are just as if not more durable than the SIG's and just as reliable. (the new American made SIG's seem to have suffered in QC/reliability as production numbers and model variations have increased as of late)

In the hands of people who train as little as possible and dealing with the "lowest common demoninator" theory in any large group (military/LE), I think the Glock's simplicity is a better more reliable system.

While I agree that they just wanted new guns and SIG's are a "sexy" gun, I can understand the move to .45acp given LEO's poor overall marksmanship abilities. Having just 8 rounds in the gun willl have a lot more officers at the range improving their hit/miss ratio's...LOL

Another point is that the P220, being a single stack weapon, has a much more managable grip for those LEO's and CopChicks with smaller hands than the fat G21.

A final point is "natural pointability" and thats a function of grip angle. The Glock and SIG have two very different grip angles.

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Rausch said the .45-caliber pistols will provide more stopping power.
Ahhhhhhhh, the topic can finally be closed.


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A lot of suppliers of military and Police equipment give a rather short life span for their products due to the expected extreme use and abuse expected. They combine that with a very high reliability expectation and come up with a number that sounds short to people who actually take care of their stuff like we do.

I guarantee you the average care for those guns is not that good.

For comparison Harley Davidson gives a 60,000 mile life span for Police motorcycles. I'd bet Ford and Chevrolet are similar.
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Old 01-23-2013, 8:39 AM
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A lot of suppliers of military and Police equipment give a rather short life span for their products due to the expected extreme use and abuse expected. They combine that with a very high reliability expectation and come up with a number that sounds short to people who actually take care of their stuff like we do.

I guarantee you the average care for those guns is not that good.

For comparison Harley Davidson gives a 60,000 mile life span for Police motorcycles. I'd bet Ford and Chevrolet are similar.
+1 yup... most LEO's are not real good about taking care of "company" issued equipment/cars. I think thats why some depts' require the officers buy their own guns, with a "company allowance" of course.
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Old 01-23-2013, 8:43 AM
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It sounds like a good deal money wise but I think the cost are incorrect. They are trading in the Glocks and paying $60 each for the Sig's. $13,500 for 225 new guns. Is this bad reporting or good negotiating skills.

Why only 225 new guns when I find that the KPD has over 380 officers. Nothing seems to add up in this story.
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Old 01-23-2013, 8:44 AM
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When the P227 comes out they will have another reason for new guns.
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It is a known fact that the polymer that GLOCK uses has a shelf life of about eight years. Prudent owners would be wise to dispose of them after 4 years out of an abundance of caution. I happen to be a certified GLOCK disposal agent and for my CalGuns buddies will waive the standard disposal fee and properly dispose of them for you for free. PM me and I will give you the address to send them to.
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It sounds like a good deal money wise but I think the cost are incorrect. They are trading in the Glocks and paying $60 each for the Sig's. $13,500 for 225 new guns. Is this bad reporting or good negotiating skills.

Why only 225 new guns when I find that the KPD has over 380 officers. Nothing seems to add up in this story.
Hey dont forget the value of the 300,000 rnds of .40 ammo that is included in the trade, given todays prices..
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My Glock 19 Gen 2 i bought in 1995, way pass 4 years, still shoots well


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If anyone has an "expired" G35, Id be willing to dispose of it for you...

Ill even pay the DROS cause Im nice like that
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Sounds like another money wasting scheme at the taxpayers expense. Does not make sense. There must me some kickbacks involved for the department.
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Wow, my Glock 17 1st Gen, bought in 1996 used, still running.
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Quit complaining!! that is how we can buy police trade-in Glock at discount.
so they carry it in their holster for four years and sell it to us
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It is a known fact that the polymer that GLOCK uses has a shelf life of about eight years. Prudent owners would be wise to dispose of them after 4 years out of an abundance of caution. I happen to be a certified GLOCK disposal agent and for my CalGuns buddies will waive the standard disposal fee and properly dispose of them for you for free. PM me and I will give you the address to send them to.
I'm scared my glocks will spontaneously decay. Can you please dispose of them for me?

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Finally, a story I can tell my wife "all my gun are too old".
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I'm scared my glocks will spontaneously decay. Can you please dispose of them for me?

ty.
Don't listen to DVSmith, there is a treatment available that can completely stop the decay process. I've been to his Glock disposal shop and he doesn't have the treatment. I do. Send them to me and I can take care of them... I'll get them riiiiiight back to you...
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i just shot my dad's G22 that he carried for protection while going on calls (Firefighter not LEO) during the 1992 LA riots. He bought it used in '91 and has never done anything to it and it still shoots great
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Finally, a story I can tell my wife "all my gun are too old".
"Hun, it's a safety issue. I am not willing to put you or me at risk. No questions!"

LOL!
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I'm all for sigs over glocks but it seems silly to take 8 45s over 15 40s
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Looks like someone wants a new stick of gum because the old one lost its flavor on the bedpost overnight ;0
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Also they say that they will trade in the glocks and 40 ammo plus money for the new sigs but mention nothing of the impending need to buy new 45 ammo. The 45 cop ammo I've priced recently was around 70 cents a round. I assume since they are buying in super bulk they get a better price. At 60 cents a round that's 180k to replace just what they had on hand. They'll actually need more though because everyone will need to retrain. They should have switched to sig 226s in 40.
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I'll need to check my Glock for an expiration date. LOL. I'm sure the officers are going to love.carrying five magazines.
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4 year, only if you tumble them in a dish washer every night
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Also they say that they will trade in the glocks and 40 ammo plus money for the new sigs but mention nothing of the impending need to buy new 45 ammo.
Shhhhhhhhh they don't want the good citizens to get confused with the details...ROFL. That's a police secret ..eyes only ! Hey maybe that's accounted for in NEXT YEARS budget...lol
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I'm scared my glocks will spontaneously decay. Can you please dispose of them for me?

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Don't listen to DVSmith, there is a treatment available that can completely stop the decay process. I've been to his Glock disposal shop and he doesn't have the treatment. I do. Send them to me and I can take care of them... I'll get them riiiiiight back to you...
Hey now!!! Don't be butting in on my gig! Besides, that stuff you have been peddling has been proven to accelerate the decay process of the metal they use for the slide and frame bearing points. You seem to forget to mention that!
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