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Old 01-22-2013, 8:45 PM
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I have a opportunity to purchase a Vietnam era Colt. It's a long barrel, all orignal, pre-ban. It does'nt look as cool as my M&P, but it is reasonably priced from a family friend, and is in really good condition.

Just not sure what its actually worth.

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Old 01-22-2013, 8:47 PM
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Well if its a family friend, $700 considering its used and your friend is selling it to you
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North of 2k, but probably closer to 3k in the current state of panic buying. I saw an A2 style AR from 1989 going for 2500 on GB. I would think the A1 style would be worth a little more.
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Just remember the early model ar15 on the rifle ban list. Just be careful unless you are not living in California Than don't worry, Go buy it and have fun.
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I'll also add that you should buy that thing AS FAST AS YOU CAN, if you get a decent price on it. No worries, you'll never lose money on it. It's a Colt and It's no longer being produced in that configuration; a win win situation.
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Thanks for all the input. Im gonna do it!! Then maybe trade for a AK?

good or bad idea????
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Thanks for all the input. Im gonna do it!! Then maybe trade for a AK?

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Noooooooooooooo! No ak is worth what that Colt is. Not even close.
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Old 01-22-2013, 9:18 PM
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Ok ok! Should I leave it as is? Or trick it out with a quad rail and adjustable stock, stuff like that? Or is it worth more as is?
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Old 01-22-2013, 9:20 PM
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Leave it just the way it is.
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This was at one time illegal because it is made by Colt. Is that still the case?
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you sure its not on the list? assuming you live in CA.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:05 PM
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I'm not sure of anything except that I do live in CA. Get #s and find out if its on the ban list. Go from there?
If it is in fact on the ban list.............is it worth more or less?
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If it is in fact on the ban list.............is it worth more or less?
If it is on the ban list it's worth about 10 years in state prison.
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jUST WONDERING, IF IT WAS IN PRISITNE UNFIRED CONDITION, HOW MUCH WOULD IT BE WORTH IN THIS NUTTY MARKET? $4-5K? I'M THINK AR-15 SP1 SPORTER BUT OF COURSE NOT IN STATE.
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I thought it was "just frowned upon" , if you get caught with a gun that is on the ban list?
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:33 PM
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As you may know, if you look at all the AR's, Colt, Stag and all the rest of them, The Vietnam era type of M-16/AR-15 are not around anymore. They used to be back in the 70's and 80's and maybe the 90's.
I remember you could get the Colt Sporter and it looked exactly the same as the M-16 I had in Vietnam in 1969. The only difference was, mine had the "first' edition flash suppressor. It was 3 pronged and open at the end. I was stationed in Korea in 1968 where the flash suppressor was closed as you see now.
I loved the 3 sided handguard around the barrel. That was comfortable to hold when you were shooting and you could lay the rifle on the palm of your hand. it was easy to take apart and clean and you could also take apart the hand guard too, in 2 pieces.
$700 is a steal. Unfortunately you may want to install the California Bullet Button to make it legal. I would think that would be o.k. but I may be wrong.
Check around. Dont go to a sporting goods store chain, but go to an independant gun dealer/sunsmith and ask them questions.
You have a weapon that would be worth $2000 and up in my opinon. Dont go to one of those gun buybacks and get $200. The local PEO agency will look at that and that item plus some other nice guns will dissappear and go into their safes at home. The crappy guns;Saturday nite specials will be melted down, but others that are collectors items will, I have been told, go to nice homes of some LEO's. I know they have to be official about it and Yea, by Law all guns will be melted down. They have to say that stuff and I have heard different. Enough rambling. You got a winner there. Hold on to it.
If you dont want it, i would like to adopt it!!
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If it is on the ban list it's worth about 10 years in state prison.
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Flowchart bro.... read it....

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I thought it was "just frowned upon" , if you get caught with a gun that is on the ban list?

That is the funniest thing I have heard all week!
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That's what I was looking for. Thanks
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Old 01-23-2013, 8:03 AM
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My price $1000. sounds like I cant lose.
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My price $1000. sounds like I cant lose.
What part of it's a felony for you to buy it as a California resident isn't clear? It's a named receiver on the ban list. You can't buy it or posess it without it being a big potential "lose". Especially when you've discussed it on a forum often monitorred by CA DOJ.

Are they cool rifles? Heck yes. Do we wish you could buy it? Of course. Do we agree with the California AWB? Heck no. But it's the law and it's kind of a big deal.
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If you are really looking for something else instead of the Colt tell me what you want and I will see if I can get it for you. I would be very much interested in the Colt either to buy or trade. I won't rip you off either and will show you comps of other Colts. I have some really nice brand new M4 style AR15's to trade out along with ammo.

If I were you I would buy it and then figure out what you want to do with it. If it is an unregistered CA (R)AW you would be better suited getting it out of state anyway.
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My price $1000. sounds like I cant lose.
You will lose if it's on the ban list....LOL
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What part of it's a felony for you to buy it as a California resident isn't clear? It's a named receiver on the ban list. You can't buy it or posess it without it being a big potential "lose". Especially when you've discussed it on a forum often monitorred by CA DOJ.

Are they cool rifles? Heck yes. Do we wish you could buy it? Of course. Do we agree with the California AWB? Heck no. But it's the law and it's kind of a big deal.
Let it go, Most of the posters on this thread do not grasp that felonies are "Big Deals."

And you can't protect someone from themselves. All you can do is warn them and that has been done.

Wait a bit and some of them will be posting on how they went to the range and got arrested and be wondering why.
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Ok ok! Should I leave it as is? Or trick it out with a quad rail and adjustable stock, stuff like that? Or is it worth more as is?
Whats the point of owning it if you are going to Ricky Ranger it...leave it as is.

However, I don't see how this weapon can be transferred legally. If its on the ban list a bullet button is not going to help. Yes the law is ridiculous, but it is the law. If I was the current "legal" owner of this weapon and wanted to get rid of it, I would sell it outside the state using a gun broker.

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I have a opportunity to purchase a Vietnam era Colt. It's a long barrel, all orignal, pre-ban. It does'nt look as cool as my M&P, but it is reasonably priced from a family friend, and is in really good condition.

Just not sure what its actually worth.

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Old 01-23-2013, 10:30 AM
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This family friend seems to think that because Colt is now making ARs, that he can put a bullet button onto his Colt and make it legal. True/False
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This family friend seems to think that because Colt is now making ARs, that he can put a bullet button onto his Colt and make it legal. True/False
The flow chart will explain but more then likely, unless he registered it, he has an AW according to CA law. A bullet button will not take the receiver off the banned list.
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Just buy the upper if the rifle is listed.
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it's from the 60s, it is most likely banned by name. You can buy the upper though, which would be pretty sweet.
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S@W ARs aren't cool they are a low end AR with a high end price. look at the material specs for the critical parts. They are made with bolt action quality steel . The Colt on the other hand is made of the highest qualtiy machine gun metals proof tested and magnetic partical inspected,,, 7075 aluminum reciever extention twice as strong as 6061 S@W uses,,the real deal.
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How are the le6920ca, le6920cmp and le6940ca CA legal?

Is it because the model # ends in CA and CMP and has factory installed bullet button and 9 rd mags?

Looking at the flow chart it looks illegal.

I know I'm missing something.
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How are the le6920ca, le6920cmp and le6940ca CA legal?

Is it because the model # ends in CA and CMP and has factory installed bullet button and 9 rd mags?

Looking at the flow chart it looks illegal.

I know I'm missing something.
It's because they don't say AR15 on them, they are labeled m4 carbine.
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This family friend seems to think that because Colt is now making ARs, that he can put a bullet button onto his Colt and make it legal. True/False
It's false. The rifle is banned. You cannot legally own it. No disrespect, but it doesn't sound like you should own it. Take your $1k and buy an AK, or build one. You'll have a blast. As for the 'pre-ban Vietnam Era Colt,' enough already.
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I thought it was "just frowned upon" , if you get caught with a gun that is on the ban list?

That is the funniest thing I have heard all week!

About as frowned upon as when Sandusky called it just Horseplay.
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It's false. The rifle is banned. You cannot legally own it. No disrespect, but it doesn't sound like you should own it. Take your $1k and buy an AK, or build one. You'll have a blast. As for the 'pre-ban Vietnam Era Colt,' enough already.
No disrespect, the whole rifle is not banned. The banned/illegal part is the lower receiver if it says "AR-15" on it (plenty of reference to flow chart already).

Jeflos' family friend doesn't seem to understand that though?

OP could buy the upper and the stock, and a oll and assemble his old school AR if he chooses too.
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