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Old 08-07-2013, 9:07 PM
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Default Simple stripped lower question.

When you purchase a stripped AR lower at the LGS or FFL, is it designated as a rifle or pistol or neither?
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Old 08-07-2013, 9:08 PM
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as a long rifle to be exact
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Old 08-07-2013, 9:16 PM
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I was curious about this too, because I've had personal regarding stripped lowers.

I mean makes sense that you can't just take any stripped lower and make a pistol...so i stick to what I know and am using an 80% for that venture. come to think of it, I've used 80%'s so far for all my ventures.
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as a long rifle to be exact
I believe "long gun" is the term used.
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AR Pistols are complicated.

You either need to build your own from a 80% or import in a *complete* AR Pistol as a single shot exemption. And if you import in a AR pistol, it has to be made from a lower that has never been used to build a rifle.

Goofy stuff.
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Question: Per ATF, a stripped lower is neither pistol nor rifle? Is this true?
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Old 08-07-2013, 9:51 PM
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I ask this question because I saw a YouTube video which made sense.

Why assemble ar pistol from stripped lower rather than a rifle first ATF Batfe 2011-4.
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As said above they are all long guns in CA . One thing to think about is what caliber you want it to be . At first I did not realize Turner's was putting 5.56 on my paper work every time I bought one . I now have them put Multi in the caliber box . Here is my whole issue with the caliber thing when it comes down to stripped lowers . New laws later saying in so many words you can't put a 6.8spc or any other caliber upper on a lower that is a 5.56 on the paper work .I can see CA in-acting new laws that state a BAN on all 5.56 semi auto rifles ( cus it's a MILITARY NATO round ). Now all the receivers you bought that say 5.56 on the paper work are now banned . I also see CA banning all semi auto rifles that have the capability of shooting multiple calibers . You know the anti's are going to do anything they can to ban all ARs . Those are just a couple laws I can see coming next time around .

I'm still having them put multi on all my lowers as of late .
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Good idea on putting "multi" on the paperwork. If you want an AR pistol, the easiest way is to buy an 80%, have it milled, assemble it as a pistol. I believe you perform the SSE yourself.
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Question: Per ATF, a stripped lower is neither pistol nor rifle? Is this true?
Correct.
But when you purchase a receiver in California, you are dealing with two sets of rules.
First, the federal rules and then the state rules.
The feds don't care if you build an AR pistol.
The state DOES care and they transfer stripped AR lowers as long guns.
According to the feds, once a "long gun", always a long gun.

So, what that means is that if you go buy a basic stripped lower within the state of California, you can NEVER make a pistol out of it.
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Correct.
But when you purchase a receiver in California, you are dealing with two sets of rules.
First, the federal rules and then the state rules.
The feds don't care if you build an AR pistol.
The state DOES care and they transfer stripped AR lowers as long guns.
According to the feds, once a "long gun", always a long gun.

So, what that means is that if you go buy a basic stripped lower within the state of California, you can NEVER make a pistol out of it.
Thanks for clarifying that.
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