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Old 01-16-2013, 8:20 AM
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Exclamation CALGUNS-CGSSA "Glendale Gun Show Call to Arms" Completed

Go here for updated information: Council Meeting Observations: CALGUNS-CGSSA "Glendale Gun Show/Glendale City Council" Observations

SIZE="5"]CALGUNS-Sports Shooting Association:
What we Need!! WE NEED YOU OnSite!!


** We need as “Many CALGUNNERS as Possible to Call, Email, Fax all day Tuesday.
** We need as “Many CALGUNNERS as Possible to Come to the City Council Meeting”, Tuesday at 6pm.

"Glendale Gun Show Call to Arms " Information: Call and Email the Glendale City Council. They are considering an ordinance that would ban gun and ammunition sales on city property; this would close the Glendale Gun Show since it is hosted at the Glendale Civic Center.

Action – Email, Call and Fax: All Day Tuesday the 22nd until End Of Business – “TURN IT ON”!!!.
Use the “Contact Your City Council Via Email” use this link
Then use the NRA Members Council “One Click” use this link





Action: Attend the next City Council Meeting, Jan 22nd@6pm ** We Need All hands On Deck for this meeting
Come in business casual, I will be there. CYA there!
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SIZE="4"]Information: In wake of Newtown shooting, Glendale City Council may hear proposal to ban gun shows proposed by Rafi Manoukian Glendale City Council.[/SIZE]
“It’s always been on my mind,” Council person Manoukian said after a meeting at City Hall Tuesday. “At this point we have to take a step.”
With Mayor Frank Quintero in his corner, he has the backing to put the issue on the City Council agenda
  • REASONS WHY BANNING THE GLENDALE GUN SHOW IS A BAD IDEA
  • 1. The Glendale Gun Show is already heavily regulated. All federal, state, and local laws must be adhered to at the gun show, which means firearms are not generally transferred on the property the day of the show. People select a firearm, fill out the paperwork, and then go pick the firearm up at ANOTHER location from a licensed dealer 10 days later, after they have passed a background check.
  • 2. The Gun Show brings in significant revenue to the City, over $54,000 directly (and who knows how much indirectly from restaurants, gas stations, etc.) in 2012.
  • 3. An ordinance banning the gun show is a solution in search of a problem, based on emotion. There appear to be zero instances of crimes or accidents with firearms at or around the gun show in its decade’s long history.
  • 4. Alameda County banned gun shows on its property and was sued for violation of the First and Second Amendments to the U.S. Constitution, as well as the Equal Protection Clause. Thirteen years and hundreds of thousands of dollars later the case remains unresolved, with the County ultimately interpreting its ordinance to allow gun shows on its property and plaintiffs asking the U.S. Supreme Court to confirm they are entitled to attorneys’ fees in excess of $1 million. See Nordyke v. Alameda County. The City will almost certainly be sued in a similar case.
  • 5. What exactly will banning the gun show achieve for Glendale other than deprive the City of the significant revenue it takes in from the show and invite a costly lawsuit like Nordyke, which could result in the City paying the plaintiffs’ attorneys’ fees on top of its losses?
  • 6. Banning the gun show was proposed in 2006 and was rejected. It was a bad idea then and it is a bad idea now.
  • 7. It is offensive that some members of the City Council would admittedly exploit the tragic murder of innocents in Connecticut as a pretext to resurrect a political plan they have obviously wanted to employ for several years.
  • 8. Any emotionally-based action, by an elected or appointed public official, is a bad idea if it does not also have a basis in fiscal and social responsibility. The loss of the steady stream of revenue, resulting from the gun show, is bad enough. But eliminating a highly regulated venue that requires that only lawful firearms transactions can occur is socially negligent.
  • 9. The promoter of the Glendale Gun Show has a contract with the city and has had one for quite some time, and the city of Glendale would be in breach by taking any action that would prohibit the promoter from hosting his show.
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To All,
A Public Service Announcement, which includes a video with comments made by Glendale Gun Show Owner Steve Friesen to the Glendale City Council over the proposal to move to agendize the proposed ban, can be found at:

http://www.calgunlaws.com/psa-save-t...rnia-gun-show/

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CALGUNS-Sports Shooting Association:
What we Need!! WE NEED YOU OnSite!!


** We need as “Many CALGUNNERS as Possible to Call, Email, Fax all day Tuesday.
** We need as “Many CALGUNNERS as Possible to Come to the City Council Meeting”, Tuesday at 6pm.

"Glendale Gun Show Call to Arms " Information: Call and Email the Glendale City Council. They are considering an ordinance that would ban gun and ammunition sales on city property; this would close the Glendale Gun Show since it is hosted at the Glendale Civic Center.
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i cant come to the meeting but I sent an email & called - shame on the council members for this!!!
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they are trying to shut down the Del Mar gun show too due to Newtown.
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shall we all go out to dinner afterwards as well?
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here is rafi manoukian's email: manoukiancouncil@gmail.com

here is mayor frank quintero's email: fquintero@ci.glendale.ca.us

blow them up people!
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Hit this address as well: citycouncil2@ci.glendale.ca.us
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I'll be there, is anyone going to be there early? I am out in the field all day and will be heading straight there before going home.
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i am hoping to get there by 530
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Follow the link: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/...-gun-show-ban/
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called email and faxed, also got the 3 other guys in the office to do it as well!
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They may try an end around run for this year to forestall legal ramifications.


See: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...property-.html

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The council is to discuss several options, which include canceling a rental contract with the Glendale Gun Show for upcoming events, banning all gun sales on city property or allowing scheduled gun shows to continue through the rest of the year, then enforcing a ban, according to a city report.
Manoukian and Quintero are strongly for the ban. Najarian and Weaver seem mildly against. It will come down to Laura Friedman as the swing vote IMO.

Due to work I can't be there on time, rats! Please pack it in guys!

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Last Tuesday Channel 2 news was there, then they left when we were given the scheduling reshuffle.

For sure they will be there again.

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News stations have begun showing up.

~ 50 people total here so far upstairs and downstairs. They are not allowing anyone from downstairs upstairs until they get a headcount of how many people are allowed in the chambers.
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From the looks of the agenda, they may not decide either for or against tonight either, see item 8 c 3

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Mayor announced that a minimum of 54 speaker cards were submitted re: the gun show. The crowd began laughing.
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I can't make it but I sent my emails to all just now. Good luck.
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Mayor announced that a minimum of 54 speaker cards were submitted re: the gun show. The crowd began laughing.
Good show. I'll probably get there by 8 and you guys will be half way through...

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Live stream of the meeting can be found here:

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Wow, just watched a "lil old lady" shut it down! Right on ma'am!


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She did shut it down. I'm quite surprised at the number of pro gun supporters who have gotten up to speak.
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Several speakers using speaking notes and "facts" from the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence as seen by looking over their shoulders.
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and she is so right
Glendale drivers are the worst
should ban them not gun shows
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