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Old 01-05-2013, 4:48 PM
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Default Another one of these: How would you build a $2000 .308 precision rifle?

So I'm going to have about 2k to spend on a rifle alone (not including glass) and I'd like to do it the best I can. I'm in no hurry to get it done, and although its a rough time to do this kind of thing, what should I go with. My considerations right now out of the box are the

Remington 700 5R .308

Savage 10 FCP .308

Tikka Super Varmint .308


I am fixed on the .308 caliber and it will do more than enough for the distances I'm going to be working with, and I already have .308 rifles that I'd like to stick with, so the caliber is definitely fixed.

My intents are going to be about 75% 100-200 yard bench shooting. 25% 200-700 yard shooting and anything in between.

I want it to be sub MOA (yes I can do my part) repeatable, and fairly simple to work on if I need to do any work. I'll put glass and rings on, and more than likely a 20moa base when its ready. For now, I would like to buy either an action with barrel, and I can pick out a stock, or a complete gun and just take out and shoot. I don't want to HAVE to do a ton of work or get things rebarreled just to get shooting at sub moa.

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I have a Savage 10 Precision Carbine in jail right know. It has a 20" threaded barrel. Accu Triger and Accu stock digital camo. I paid $887.00 out the door.

My brother has the 10 FCP McMillan, it's a constant sub MOA shooter best group so far is .47. Picked up some 9 rd mags from Sharp shooter supply they run $90.00. Work great in the FCP and fits the carbine. Easy to work on and changing a barrel in simular to a AR. Parts are cheap Complete bolt you are looking about $150.

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Buy a used custom rifle from here or the hide, save youreself alot of money and time
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I have a $700 howa 308 that I can easily hit the 600yd target with bulk aussie ammo.

You dont need to spend 2k.
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LRB sales ready built for that price.
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If you want something new, check out these guys. I've heard great things on the Hide about Scoutsupply and my brother and I both have GPS rifles.

http://scoutsupplycompany.com/rifle-packages/

http://sniperschool.com/store/firear...gton-700p-.308

I had GPS Defense work over one of my 700's for around $500 and it now shoots consistently 3/4 moa with hand loads or Fed Match. Let me know what you get!
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skeet, you dealt with them at all. Interesting setup on the first for only $1100. I've been wanting a new rifle that isn't a hunting platform for awhile, and while I love my little .308 savage, its just not really a target or precision style gun. Not gonna hold a candle to your DTA, but I'd like something a bit more fun than a .223 and a bit longer legs as well. Was your LTR the GPS defense gun?


I'm going to start getting serious when my stuff comes in for an AR I'm building. I've got about 3 buyers for it first, and have been offered 2k. I'll probably sell it for about $1500 and figure out optics within the next 6 months.
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Savage sells their model 10s with HS Precision and McMillian stocks as well.

Both the Remington and Savage should shoot under 1 moa out of the box. I don't have any experience with the Tikka.

One of my friends shoots a 700P and complains that the X Mark trigger pull isn't consistent (and has verified that with a trigger pull gage). One of my Savages accutrigger didn't work a third of the time either. It sports a SSS trigger now. Both shoot about the same.

You'll have a nice rifle even in the $800-1100 range. Upgrade the trigger/stock if necessary, but put as much as you can towards optics/mounts.
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You buy a Springfield M1A.
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Consider an M1 Garand from CMP, for $995.00 + $24.95 S/H:

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M1 Garand, CMP Special (.308)
Allow 30-60 days for delivery.

M1 Garand Springfield Armory receiver. This is a completely refurbished rifle consisting of an original M1 Garand Springfield receiver, new production Criterion barrel, new production American Walnut stock and handguards, and new web sling. Receiver and most other parts are refinished USGI, but some parts may be new manufacture. A .308 spacer block is installed to prevent the loading of a .30-06 round into the chamber.

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skeet, you dealt with them at all. Interesting setup on the first for only $1100. I've been wanting a new rifle that isn't a hunting platform for awhile, and while I love my little .308 savage, its just not really a target or precision style gun. Not gonna hold a candle to your DTA, but I'd like something a bit more fun than a .223 and a bit longer legs as well. Was your LTR the GPS defense gun?


I'm going to start getting serious when my stuff comes in for an AR I'm building. I've got about 3 buyers for it first, and have been offered 2k. I'll probably sell it for about $1500 and figure out optics within the next 6 months.
Yes, my LTR was worked over by them. There $2000 rifle with a manners stock looks pretty appealing! They had me send my rifle to one of their smiths in Washington. It took about a month, but sometimes they have those rifles completely done in stock. Just give them a call. I haven't dealt with the other company, just heard good things about them.


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How about spending a little more and get the FNH A3? Guaranteed to shoot 1/2 moa out of the box and comes with a 20moa base.
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Get a Rem. 700 or Winchester Mod. 70 and spend the rest on good glass. Done.
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All I can say is be prepared to spend 2k just for a rifle scope. LOL I purchase my limited run savage 10 5r and it still doesn't have a scope. Decisions decisions!!! Too many of them
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I did this last year and did a rem 700 in a mcmillan stock......if I were to do it over again, I would buy a manners t4a with their bottom metal or an AICS (not my style) and drop one of those 20" 5r threaded rem 700s in it. Add a brake, harris bipod, base and rings and call it a day.....but your already at 3k there prob
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All you need isa used action and buy a custom kreiger barrel with nice stock. Done deal.
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I'd vote for the Tikka. You'll be able to take it out and shoot right away, and there are very nice replacement stocks available if you want to upgrade.
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same as what DC3 said. find a buy a cheap donor rem 700 action. send it to

http://www.bartleinbarrels.com/

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http://www.kriegerbarrels.com/

have them give you a nice custom barrel to your specs. chamber, lap, true, and then just have them bed your McMillan or Manner's stock for you while they are at it. You should be under $2000. That's definitely WITHOUT the scope. You'll probably be 6-12 months out on it, but it will be your one of a kind custom rifle. Plus a lot more fun that something right off the shelf, and you'll have more pride in it.

Oh and while you're at it, buy a sweet Timney trigger for it, set to 2 lbs. unless you want a Jewel, but the difference is minor and price is about double.

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start with a swedish mauser and go from there.
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I'd start with a $500 rifle, $500 opitcs, $100 mounts and $900 worth of reloading gear not including components.
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I bought a Tikka Tactial 308 out of the box, put a 20 moa base on it, and a nightforce, muzzle brake, and took it to the range for a long range match, which I have never shot before....the gun worked well...For another $600.00 you could put a manners stock on it and call it a day.

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The gun shoots 0.38" groups consistantly at 100 yrds with 175 grain smks, no special length, just AR mag length bullets.
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Get a Rem. 700 or Winchester Mod. 70 and spend the rest on good glass. Done.
Bingo.

I'd include the Savage 10 in there too.

I've been thinking of doing the same build for a while. Here's my current plan (changes frequently):

$800 Remington 700 SPS Tactical
$250 Bell and Carlson Tactical Medalist Stock
$105 Harris HBRMS Bipod
$750 Vortex Viper PST 6 - 24 x 50 Precision Tactical Scope (Amazon.com price)
$50 Sling
$1955
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I can easily hit the 600yd target with bulk aussie ammo.
I don't know that I would brag about that unless you specified the size of the target...



The red circle is the big 600yd plate at angeles.
The little yellow circle is a 6" plate which would be a 1 moa group.

The big plate is about a 6 moa target.
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I don't know that I would brag about that unless you specified the size of the target...



The red circle is the big 600yd plate at angeles.
The little yellow circle is a 6" plate which would be a 1 moa group.

The big plate is about a 6 moa target.
Okay that was a just a little funny Randall
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I bought a Tikka Tactial 308 out of the box, put a 20 moa base on it, and a nightforce, muzzle brake, and took it to the range for a long range match, which I have never shot before....the gun worked well...For another $600.00 you could put a manners stock on it and call it a day.

The proof is in the scores....



The gun shoots 0.38" groups consistantly at 100 yrds with 175 grain smks, no special length, just AR mag length bullets.

Not too often will guys throw up their score cards so thats pretty cool of you! What are the long range course of fire distances you scored those at?
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Don't mess around. Get the Savage, and never have to look back.

If the action isn't all that you want, send it to Sharp Shooter Supply for Fred's action job, and be very happy afterwards.

There's a good reason why Savage cleans up in Factory Class around the world.
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So I'm still taking some things into consideration, but anybody have experience with the Savage 10FCP. Looks like I could throw a scope on it and be shooting for the most part. I'd want to do some personal touches to it, but it looks solid.
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The Savage 10 fcp with the McMillan A5 stock is a good choice. Will probably run you around $1500.
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I have the savage 10fcp with a NightForce scope on it and it shoots fantastic.
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Look at the bushnell 3.5-21 G2DMR for glass. It is by far the best bang for the buck. About $1100-1200 where everything else in its class costs at least twice that.

Savage, rem, tikka... all GTG. Just get something with a removable magazine- 5 and 10 rounders is best. It's pricey and a PITA to convert a blind mag to removable.

A rifle like that, sooner or later, you'll want to play the 'precision rifle matches', those 5-10 round mags make a big difference.
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The M1a is a great rifle, and with enough work and tuning it can shoot sub MOA, but it is very tough to keep an M1a shooting sub MOA. I have a cheap LR 308 that will consistently shoot MOA with Federal Match ammo, and a nice LR 308 can consistently do sub MOA with little maintenance, but a bolt action rifle will be cheaper to build.
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If you're going to spend $2k+ on a precision .308, it had better be a semi-auto, or otherwise just man up and save for an Accuracy International . As far as semis, the FNAR, any .308 AR variant, or M14 variant capable of shooting 1 MOA or better are around $2000 to $2500.

You can get a Remington 700P (the police version with the HS Precision fiberglass stock), which is good enough for police marksmen, for $800. Shoot, the 300 Win Mag version is like $950.
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Before the insanity you could get a DPMS .308 classic for a little over $1200.

I'm trying not to break $1600 building the damn thing after this $#!tstorm started.

As for something other then an AR platform, +1 on what Vacaville said.
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I want to get 2 scopes. First would be a Primary Arms 4-14x40 FFP which I would throw it on just to get shooting. Second would end up being a Vortex PST 6-24x44 FFP after I save a few pennies. I can drop the few bucks on the first scope no problem, but the other one at 1k would have to wait 6 months till my next bonus kicks in. I've been wanting both for different reasons, but I really want to give the primary arms scope a try for the money. If nothing else, I'll throw it on an AR when I'm done and call it a day.
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If you're going to spend $2k+ on a precision .308, it had better be a semi-auto, or otherwise just man up and save for an Accuracy International . As far as semis, the FNAR, any .308 AR variant, or M14 variant capable of shooting 1 MOA or better are around $2000 to $2500.

You can get a Remington 700P (the police version with the HS Precision fiberglass stock), which is good enough for police marksmen, for $800. Shoot, the 300 Win Mag version is like $950.

I'm still rolling the idea around of a 700p, 700 5-R, Savage 10PC, and Tikka Super Varmint all in a .308.

I'll probably take whatever I get and either drop it in a Manners, B&C, or AICS stock later on.
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I'm still rolling the idea around of a 700p, 700 5-R, Savage 10PC, and Tikka Super Varmint all in a .308.

I'll probably take whatever I get and either drop it in a Manners, B&C, or AICS stock later on.
For your budget, the best setup will be a 700p with a bushnell g2dmr 3.5-21.
You will just be breaking $2000 to get the scope base, rings and a bipod to finish it out.
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