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Rambo's CCW Application - now posted online!
I detail the entire experience here, including his CCW application, the letters I wrote, and the responses I received:
http://www.blog.riflegear.com/articl...-stallone.aspx It took three different letters, careful wording of my requests, ignoring their deceptive responses, and 2 1/2 months of patience but I finally got a copy of it right here in my hands! They redacted his personal information such as SSN, address, phone numbers, which I can understand - but they redacted his entire good cause statement as well! Oh well, at least I have some very good evidence that points out his hypocrisy. If you are interested here are the weapons listed for the CCW, which was applied for on Sept 29, 2004 and the permit was issued on Nov 30, 2004: Walther PPK/S .380 ACP Browning Hi-Power 9mm Beretta Model 20 .25 cal Glock 21 .45 Does anybody have a good source for the following quote - when exactly did he say it and to whom? Quote:
Of course you all have probalby seen these pictures of him at a recent Brady Center event in LA: http://www.bradycenter.org/donate/ev...06/losangeles/ Last edited by shark92651; 08-25-2007 at 4:58 PM.. |
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That's beautiful! Thank you for being so persistent in that. Cool! Interesting, I didn't realize that LASD allows four guns on the permit. Ya think they might have special policies for celebrities?
By the way if you have a scanner, you might want to scan and post it. I wonder if he now has one issued somewhere else. http://www.tmz.com/2007/03/12/stallo...ds-down-under/
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Sometime this weekend I am going to scan it, along with all the letters I wrote and the responses I received. I am going to post it on my blog and then I will post a link. This is why I want to find a good source for his quote - anybody got a source?
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Searched for " Until America, door to door, takes every handgun" on google and the first three links quote him saying that but no hard sources (like a newspaper article).
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One potential grounds for why they redacted his good cause statement:
He may have referenced a restraining order or whatnot, referencing personal-life info.
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I think it's BS they redacted his entire good cause statement. I'd like to have some idea what's in it...
If he had a restraining order against someone, he didn't need a CCW... |
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Generally, good cause statements are part of the investigators notes. Most likely, they would be redacted as they often state when/where exactly someone IS a target. Not a good idea to put that kind of information out where someone (a stalker perhaps?) could find it and use that to cause harm.
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He probably wouldn't have referenced a restraining order... however he would have cited more specific reasons why he's a target, beyond "I'm a celebrity". THAT is what they'd want to redact.
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Good Cause statements quite frequently have information that just ISN'T releasable even with a PRA request. This is also an excellent way to hide differences in someone who was denied and someone who was approved. Those statements would not/could not be redacted from the court though, if they were evidence in a lawsuit.
Essentially, it's a double-edged sword... it's good for keeping sensitive "make me a target" information out of the hands of those who don't need it while also making it easier to hide reasons for approval/denial. |
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The whole thing stinks - kind of like Laurie David, while sanctimoniously lecturing the masses on how they need to cut back on carbon emissions, flies between conferences on "global warming" in private jets.
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Thats a pretty good source. That puts him saying these things in May and June of 1998 - 6 years before he gets his CCW.
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They really easily could have blacked out sensitive portions of his good cause, but leave the gist of it in there.
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There may not be a photo, it's not required by most jurisdictions. The ccw is a little piese of rice paper with your thumb print.
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What is Bernie Mac doing there? I thought I read an article where he said he loves guns.... hmmmm, just another do as I say, not as I do celebrity jag off.
ETA: On his gun collection: “I have Glocks, .45s, Berettas, over-unders, Remingtons. I like the marksmanship and the discipline that it takes to be a gun owner. I like the machinery, breaking it down. Being able to take it out, clean it and put the spring back in is even more fascinating than having the gun.” |
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Aside, when you file for a CCW, don't you agree that the information you provide be public record as well? I thought I saw that somewhere on the paperwork. |
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Handing out Stallone's CCW at a Brady event he attends would be priceless...
Excellent work Shark. Remember that government works for you as Shark clearly understands. -Gene
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This is the reason I turned a blind eye to otherwise law abiding citizens violating CCW laws when I was a cop. I hate hypocrisy, especially when elitists excercise their rights while infringing on everyone elses. As far as I'm concerned Stallone and Mac are typical liberal socialist elitists just like Bratton, Baca, Villaraigosa, Newsome, Feinstein, Boxer, Pelosi, and every other POS politician in this state that infringes on my right.
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Hehehe. Good for you ignoring no-permit CCWing by otherwise law-abiding people.
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Heh, he's a celebrity. Remember, CA leads the nation in celebrity anti stalking and privacy protection laws and policies...
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It makes me sick to look at Stallone's botox/collagen injected face with his eyeliner done eyebrows - one of the first things I noticed in the last Rocky film, "Rocky Balboa". At first I thought it was just bad film make-up or something to slate the character in how Rocky was always theatrical but now dealing with age, but no, Stallone does the eyeliner in real life too, and his face really does look that bloated. He has undergone so many "youth" enhancing treatments, the effect was the exact opposite he intended to achieve - every cell in his face is probably pulverized from being soaked or injected with foreign agents, emulsifying chemicals, and acid peels. Too bad. If he had left his face alone, he would more than likely still have his basic look from 30 years ago, but with just a slighter gaunt in the cheeks, al la Pacino.
And... I did not see, but assumed; was this CCW from California? He mostly lives and spends his time in Florida last I recall. Any idea what county in CA this was issued, even though they did not provide an address? He's got homes all over CA, so it could prove difficult to determine. Not that it would make a difference, because with Baca's butt-smooching of celebrities, Stallone could very well have a condo on top of one of the down-town LA courthouse buildings, and still get a CCW from Baca. There is probably more than one celebrity in this town that has Baca's personal cell-phone number on speed-dial. I can think of at least one that probably has it on her home phone speed dial (no, not Paris - some old hag). .
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No special privilage....several counties allow 4 pistols. All I can say is CAREFUL FOLKS........... I remeber the hullabalu about some anti trying to FOIA all the CCW info and posting all that personal info for everyone to see.... So while I do think Names, dates, maybe even reasons might be ok........... I DONT think that any of the other personal info including the gun mdels or address of the permit holder is a good thing to release.............
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Did a newspaper publish all the CCWers home addresses in the a state recently? I forget the state. I do recall it being covered on Gresham's "Gun Talk" show. Apparently, several prison guards/police officers got visits from people the had arrested and a few stalkers found where their victims had moved too.
Bottom line is that your details are only private if you're contributing $$$ to the sheriff's reelection campaign. |
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It was a reporter in Roanake, VA that published a list of all CCW holders in the state of VA. He placed it in an online database but was forced to take it down after the huge uproar it caused.
http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/trejbal/wb/108160 Although I would never do this to John Q. Public, it doesn't concern me at all to expose a high-profile anti-gun hypocrit celebrity like Stallone. What's he going to do - sue me? That would probably make the national news and really expose his hypocrasy. Maybe I will send a copy of it to http://www.thesmokinggun.com/ as well. |
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Sean Penn still has his Marin County permit after getting busted in Oakland for brandishing a few years ago. I wish there was a way some clever lawyer could find a way to make a buck on this outrageous discrimination.
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I dont remeber that one. I Do remember the time his car got stolen and he publically stated he was more worried about the gun he left inside it falling into the wrong hands than getting the car back............
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It maybe the law...but it may be a law that needs changing; we all spend days here at a time whinning about the stoooopid irrelevant gun laws of this state...and yet this is one that I see in somewhat of a similar light. So while Penn & Stalone personally disgust me I would/will still defend thier right to privacy (no matter even if some say there is no such right). It just aint right to release too personal of info......
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How many ways can I say violation of the 14th amendment. First, the POS politicians abridge our "privileges and Immunities" aka our GUARANTEED constitutional rights by making unconstitutional gun laws. And then they violate the equal protection clause by using unlawful discriminating criteria to determine who does and doesn't get a CCW. And the 9th circus plays stupid wordgames to justify socialistic interpretations of a plainly worded constitution so that politicians can continue the assault. So it's like what else will they think up? People like Stallone, Penn and Blake are symtoms of a bigger problem. We really need a positive outcome with D.C. v. Heller. Let's hope that Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia will actually champion the original second amendment and make things right.
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