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Old 01-20-2013, 11:53 AM
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Ok, I'm new here, so maybe what I have to say doesn't carry much weight. I agree with the nay-Sayers on 1 point concerning this rally and that is it will probably have little affect on the pending legislation. Those proposing the legislation have been emboldened by current events and have been helped mightily by the media and their full court press on gun control. However, and I doubt I'm alone in this, it did inspire me to abandon my defeatist attitude and get into the fray. After leaving the rally, I sent off nearly a dozen e-mails to family and friends encouraging them to join in. The NRA now has 4 new members they didn't have yesterday. For that alone, the rally was a success. We need to stop picking each other apart here and join together in our common cause of defending the 2A and ultimately the United States. Let's all look for ways to pursue our goals and not tear down others (unless their methods are proven counter-productive) in this battle we face. We really need ALL hands on deck!:cheers2
AWESOME!

...so the rally didn't change any politicians minds, but it ended with some active participation which resulted in more NRA supporters.

Maybe the rally is only really helpful in secondary ways - but helpful nonetheless.

The 2a is an awesome example of a grass roots politics - I hope we can take it all the way!

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I could not make it. I was in socal and had my sons 3rd bday party. I wanted to go and bring him as it was more important than jumping around but wife...umm we wont get into that convo.
I just wanted to thank each person that was there for me yesterday representing me. Thank you so very very much.
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My best friend and I stayed up late in the night making the big banner on the steps some of you may have seen and then woke up at 5am to drive up to Sacramento from Thousand Oaks.
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That's a very nice photo of the back of my head . Glad there was such a good turn out.
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Tell you want what, sport.
Fixed it for you.

From what I read here, the Sacramento Bee, or any of the local news outlets didn't cover it. If it isn't documented, it didn't happen.
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bearflag, tell your best friend that was an awesome backdrop. I was admiring it the whole time. He should make it into a flag and start selling them.
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I love reading these posts!! The good news is that we have a lot of people who couldn't make this event but either wanted to be there or now want to be at another one. They have seen the positive outcome and will hopefully be able to make the next one. As each event occurs, the attendance will grow. That is what this is all about. February 8th is the next event I have heard about. If we keep growing, have more speakers wanting to be included and get more positive coverage, then we will be able to help make a difference. I really see more and more opinions changing. I actually spoke with someone yesterday who was thrilled I was going to the rally and she was in full support of the 2A. I admit, I was shocked!! It was totally unexpected. Attitudes are turning...more Dems are rethinking their beliefs. It has to start somewhere. Some people will not agree with me and won't see any changes. That is okay. But we do need to remember that now is not the time for baby steps. We have to forge ahead by leaps and bounds!! Oh...and I now have several more people joining the NRA. It is a good day! :-)

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Had a great time, some very passionate speeches.

Glad to see lots of family's there with their children, I think the average gun owner was very well represented, only saw a couple of guys who, IMOP could have left the tactile gear at home.

Lots of great signs.

I was surprised by the lack of the media, I just thought there would be more.

I need to post some pics when I get to a computer.
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From what I read here, the Sacramento Bee, or any of the local news outlets didn't cover it. If it isn't documented, it didn't happen.
There's more to national news than the excuse me, Sac Bee.
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Y'all quit knocking the CSA flag. It is a symbol of resistance to an over reaching government. It is not a symbol of bigotry. Perhaps that is what the media has convinced you of, sorta like they have convinced many of the evils of guns.

Under what flag did the klan march on DC with in the 20s?
That flag has NO place at a pro-gun rally on the capital steps in Sacramento, CA.
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Ok folks...
First off a huge THANK YOU to Thrashershark for all the help.
Another huge THANK YOU to Dan from the California Tea Party. They managed to get senator Nielsen, and Sam Paredes. They also brought studio level AV, and camera gear. For that I am eternally grateful.
Based on the fact folks were down to the first step, and overflowing to the side entrances we estimate the number around 2,000. That was from the politicians not me. MSM will say hundreds. When we have 10,000 they will say couple of thousand. It is what it is.
From what I saw, the rally was down played. Not good but it wasn't bad coverage. We were families, and kids, and yeah a few in camo, but that wasn't covered by the media, if at all.
Guns Across America isn't finished. We have only started.
We will have other events going on shortly so stay tuned.
Not a rally in the capital, but we will be working for petitions, that work, email and mail campaigns, you name it.
Right now a small contingent is trying to get to DC for the inauguration.
This was DAY ONE!
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had a great time at the rally got lucky and didnt get a ticket my meter ran out haha heard some great speaches saw some great signs i have some good photos a videos ill be uploading them asap thank you every one for the support of our rights im glad there wasnt just a handful of people this is what we must do if we want to have a peaceful cause before it turns into a bloody war and our country is completly torn apart
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heres some more photos i have to upload the video to youtube still then i will post the url thanks again to all the badasses out there fighting for the rest of the americans rights
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Thanks for doing that. that's a good backdrop. Hopefully still intact for re-use
Yup!

Just PM me if you need it somewhere for an event, going to war, whatever.
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bearflag, tell your best friend that was an awesome backdrop. I was admiring it the whole time. He should make it into a flag and start selling them.
Will do, i still have the original illustrator file i made it from, the design was rushed though, so maybe i'll finalize it and do that!
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Thank you to all. I brought my family and even had a long conversation on the phone on the way home with family members and got them to join the NRA. I was able to get them to see this was not about guns but our RIGHTS. Thank you again to everyone that made it happen. The females in my family are just shocked at the female showing. Way to go Ladies!
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Old 01-20-2013, 2:31 PM
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First, THANKS to Sanchanim for taking the lead on this and putting together a successful event. I could hear the stress AND the belief you were doing the right thing in putting this on in your voice when you gave your closing remarks. I'll look for your next event posting on Gun Owners of California website; http://www.gunownersca.com/. I don't think you'll meet with threadcrapping there, especially since they were there supporting your effort.

Thanks to all the others that supported his efforts as well.

It was a great event and I was glad to be there.

Press or not and whether that coverage is good or bad, the event was motivating to ALL that support it whether they were in attendance or not and that was the key. I'm confident there'll be more activism from all supporters.

The best signs I personally saw were those held by a very pregnant woman's two daughters. Her eldest daughter, probably 4, had a sign saying "My mom loves guns." Her youngest daughter, probably 2, had a sign saying "Arm my teacher." She was wearing a t-shirt that said "My conservative mom can beat up your liberal dad." Classic!

On the way out, i asked the two CHP officers that were there on bikes what they thought of the event from their professional viewpoint. One did all the talking and he said these events, conservative issues, are the easiest to cover. Respectful, well behaved during the event, and CLEAN. He gave me some of his family history from the bay area and told me how it used to be YEARS ago. I then told him about the bubble-living losers that were protesting Templar in Los Gatos. When they left, they left a bunch of trash on the sidewalk out front. Real winners.

Again, a great event and thanks to Sanchanim and all his supporters for putting on a successful event.
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I was surprised by the lack of the media, I just thought there would be more.

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Really?

It would be great to have multiple 2a days like this - it will get to the point that people will demand to know what the heck is going on from the media. They'll have no choice but to air at least a little something eventually.
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Yup!

Just PM me if you need it somewhere for an event, going to war, whatever.
If we do another gig up here, maybe it could be used on our mobile billboard to advertise the event in advance:



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To all of you who organized this I think you guys should apply your skills to the SoCal 2A march on February 8th 2013.

I'm willing to attend that one with some friends work permitting.
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where is the SoCal rally going to be?

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It was a good turn out.

Here is some photo's enjoy:



















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Ok folks...
First off a huge THANK YOU to Thrashershark for all the help.
Another huge THANK YOU to Dan from the California Tea Party. They managed to get senator Nielsen, and Sam Paredes. They also brought studio level AV, and camera gear. For that I am eternally grateful.
Based on the fact folks were down to the first step, and overflowing to the side entrances we estimate the number around 2,000. That was from the politicians not me. MSM will say hundreds. When we have 10,000 they will say couple of thousand. It is what it is.
From what I saw, the rally was down played. Not good but it wasn't bad coverage. We were families, and kids, and yeah a few in camo, but that wasn't covered by the media, if at all.
Guns Across America isn't finished. We have only started.
We will have other events going on shortly so stay tuned.
Not a rally in the capital, but we will be working for petitions, that work, email and mail campaigns, you name it.
Right now a small contingent is trying to get to DC for the inauguration.
This was DAY ONE!
Good for you!

You might consider a venue change to a more central/populated are?

The Federal Building on Wilshire in Los Angeles or the one in SF perhaps?
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Hosted on front of msn.com right now. http://news.msn.com/politics/thousan...-control-in-us
I love how the article is SOOO quick to point out how Texas writing laws to disregard any federal gun bans is, "against the constitution." But apparently, banning certain weapons from citizens is not. I really dislike NBC and their liberal rhetoric.
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where is the SoCal rally going to be?
Supposed to be on hill street. I sent them a email asking if they could PDF me the flyer so I could get the word out.

https://www.facebook.com/events/404580092955869/
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I was utterly floored how we got out and did well. Could we have done better sure! You know if we were 50,000 people then maybe we would have made a big slash, as they said a few thousand protest!
We know it went well, and we got people motivated. We started communicating, and we can and will fight with truth. So far no real bad press.
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Had a great time, some very passionate speeches.

Glad to see lots of family's there with their children, I think the average gun owner was very well represented, only saw a couple of guys who, IMOP could have left the tactile gear at home.

Lots of great signs.

I was surprised by the lack of the media, I just thought there would be more.

I need to post some pics when I get to a computer.

Me too ! Great speeches ! My son and I estimated the crowd to be around 6 to 7 hundred.







The A.P. carried the story as far as a nation wide event. I didn't see all the numbers, but two : Colorado had 500 and New York had 2,000 .
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That would seem to be the case, based on the lack of press coverage. I just hope the participants don't feel like they've "done their part" now and sit back and do nothing more. That is the danger in these kind of gestures.



Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. How many people did you get signed up for the NRA at your event? How many previously anti-gun or neutral people did you expose to shooting for the first time?



My point exactly. Did the organizers even bother to contact the Bee or KCRA? KCRA has a text story on the website, but no video. News 10 did broadcast a piece, but that's the only coverage I can find.




Now that you're all pumped up, take a newbie to the range, send a check to NRA, join SAF, CRPA, CCRKBA.
Actually we did contact KCRA, and channel ten. We also are in the LA times as well. None of the coverage was bad. Ok we didn't make front page through liberal media, but if you were expecting that I would need to be wild eyed Wayne from the NRA spewing something nonsensical or not, the media will be on it and twist the hell out of it.

We had a ton of families, a whole scout troop, over all it was good. You felt that we would get bad press. I knew we would have little press, or what there was would be over shadowed by people getting shot at gun shows! Yeah that's right all that gun appreciation day blew up in their face. Media matters is also spinning that those folks are racists as well. This was one rally, it was a start. We are working to grow, to do other things as well.
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Interesting to see how the media largely ignored these events and instead is all over those gun show accidents.
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One of the signs my son and I got a kick out of, was a lady holding a sign that said:


"If guns cause crime, mine must be defective"
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There's more to national news than the excuse me, Sac Bee.
Hey genius, we have more to worry about from the California legislature than we do from Congress. And Cal legislatures are likely to read the Sac Bee.
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If we do another gig up here, maybe it could be used on our mobile billboard to advertise the event in advance:
Maybe!

Though in general I try to avoid Sacto and the Bay about as much as I can. I had to make the epic journey for the sake of the cause and to support my brothers in arms.

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Supposed to be on hill street. I sent them a email asking if they could PDF me the flyer so I could get the word out.

https://www.facebook.com/events/404580092955869/
The best thing that the Feb 19 organizers did was put the event on a WEEKEND.

The Los Angeles organizers scheduling of their event during the week can only handicap it.
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Hey genius, we have more to worry about from the California legislature than we do from Congress. And Cal legislatures are likely to read the Sac Bee.
Perhaps you can use your powers of persuasion next times to convince them to send a reporter. You might want to lose the snarky attitude.
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You know what? I was shocked as I read through this thread. I think I saw people afraid to take a stand. If I got the wrong impression then I'm sorry. I haven't read through all pages, I'm new to this group and I admit I don't know much about how to play politics. But, I know when it is time to take a stand.

I went to the thing in Sacramento because I'm afraid of what is happening in this country and I'm more afraid of what is happening in California. I got two days of notice about this event. I didn't have a clue who was putting this on. I didn't know what I would find what I got there. But something told me I have to go and I did! My wife went along...she is so awesome.

I LOVED THIS EVENT! I am so impressed with this guy that spoke. His name is Sam Paredes. I never heard of him before...if that makes me an idiot I don't care...I know now. I'm fired up after hearing this and I contributed money to his organization that night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWCpn...yer_detailpage

I think I'm going to get involved more...I just can't sit back and complain doing nothing...
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I just saw one of the flyers taped up at my local gas station for the event.
Very cool. Im in Lake county
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You know what? I was shocked as I read through this thread. I think I saw people afraid to take a stand. If I got the wrong impression then I'm sorry. I haven't read through all pages, I'm new to this group and I admit I don't know much about how to play politics. But, I know when it is time to take a stand.

I went to the thing in Sacramento because I'm afraid of what is happening in this country and I'm more afraid of what is happening in California. I got two days of notice about this event. I didn't have a clue who was putting this on. I didn't know what I would find what I got there. But something told me I have to go and I did! My wife went along...she is so awesome.

I LOVED THIS EVENT! I am so impressed with this guy that spoke. His name is Sam Paredes. I never heard of him before...if that makes me an idiot I don't care...I know now. I'm fired up after hearing this and I contributed money to his organization that night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWCpn...yer_detailpage

I think I'm going to get involved more...I just can't sit back and complain doing nothing...
High five!
I had already bought all my friends and family GOA memberships, and am becoming a pariah amongst my hollywood friends for making the case for why they should be against gun control legislations, i was there supporting them with their calls for freedom, but they are like the ACLU , they support ALL your liberties except one. I actively make sure the rest if my friends have good arguments and are aware of the history and philosophy behind the pro heavily armed citizenry is good and moral.

I saw travis Haley and NutnFancy's videos on youtube, Then logged into CalGuns for details, a day later i was up till 3:45 am painting a banner and by 5:45 I was wheels up and heading for Sacramento.

I know a lot of you have been in the fight in a more substantive way than many of us for a long time. But the real fighting hasnt begun yet, and our numbers and resolve grow every day with the events like Saturday's.
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Old 01-21-2013, 1:16 AM
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The best thing that the Feb 19 organizers did was put the event on a WEEKEND.

The Los Angeles organizers scheduling of their event during the week can only handicap it.
I'm curious why the chose the Civic Center too? Parking is tough/expensive and the exposure won't be what it could be.

The Federal building on Wilshire would have been cool. Good neighborhood, free parking, tons of exposure, etc.

At least they are doing something. Good for them!
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One of the signs my son and I got a kick out of, was a lady holding a sign that said:


"If guns cause crime, mine must be defective"
That might have been my wife. Short lady?
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Here is some small coverage from the L.A times.

Be sure to blow up the poll while you are there..

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,4533320.story
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