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Old 12-31-2012, 11:42 AM
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Prepping for a possible AW ban, right now, is straightforward. Good thing is that even if the AWB never happens (which we hope and work for), this prep will still have you in a good position.

Here's the prep: Save Money, say 3000 dollars. The money is to buy two semi-auto rifles that you will register under any AWB that might happen. Think of them as insurance, and as sacrifices.

Here's the thinking:

AWB happens, and we must register all semi-auto rifles. You say, "No way, confiscation is next." OK, even though that's never happened (we had an AWB in this country before, and there was no confiscation), we as preppers want to be prepared, right? So you have those rifles you lost in that boating accident, and you'll go scuba diving for them after any acts of confiscation, right?

Great. But what happens AFTER registration but BEFORE confiscation, or if confiscation never happens? Specifically, what happens if you need to defend your life or the lives of your loved ones during that period?

You crack out that un-registered rifle and even if you defeat the home invaders (or whatever), you are now guilty of a Federal felony (possession of an AW). How much prepping do you think you'll be doing in a Federal pen? Can you defend your family from behind bars? How will your savings be holding up after 10 years with no income, and having spent 100k on legal fees?

So these two rifles are for that period of time after registration when we all still need to defend ourselves. If they get confiscated, then truly the S has HTF, but at least you are prepared for it. If they get used, again, you were prepared.

If the AWB never happens, the prep is still legit -- take the money and...prep!

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Old 12-31-2012, 11:51 AM
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Um ya, did that back in 99. Your a little late to the party if your just now considering a tactical rifle.
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You can prep for a possible AWB for much less then $3000. If you have that type of budget, I say more power to you and enjoy your purchases. But for those like me, who don't have the funds to spare to pay for 2 completed rifles, there are other options.

I will be picking up 2 AR 15 stripped lowers as soon as the DROS period completes. Those lowers (from entreprise arms), though not complete lowers or fully assembled rifles, will hopefully allow me to pass any AWB and be considered grandfathered in pre-ban. The cost of the lowers (after tax and dros and yadayadayada) come out to about $110 each.
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Umm. Correct me if I'm wrong but if a ban passes the way difi wants it too it will require nfa reg and she's also "closing the bullet button gap "
Tell me how easy it is to register a nfa item here and how to get around bullet buttons if they do find a way to close the gap?
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Yeah if this AWB passes as it currently stands, you will be luck to be able to keep a black powder rifle. Your best bet is to not worry about "adapting" to it, but rather fight it with everything you got.
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Better yet, if you are serious about getting an ar/ak, attend a build party.
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Those lowers (from entreprise arms), though not complete lowers or fully assembled rifles, will hopefully allow me to pass any AWB and be considered grandfathered in pre-ban. The cost of the lowers (after tax and dros and yadayadayada) come out to about $110 each.
were those the polymer lowers?
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Don't forget about the Semi Auto Pistols she wants to ban.
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Prepping for a possible AW ban, right now, is straightforward. Good thing is that even if the AWB never happens (which we hope and work for), this prep will still have you in a good position.

Here's the prep: Save Money, say 3000 dollars. The money is to buy two semi-auto rifles that you will register under any AWB that might happen. Think of them as insurance, and as sacrifices.

Here's the thinking:

AWB happens, and we must register all semi-auto rifles. You say, "No way, confiscation is next." OK, even though that's never happened (we had an AWB in this country before, and there was no confiscation), we as preppers want to be prepared, right? So you have those rifles you lost in that boating accident, and you'll go scuba diving for them after any acts of confiscation, right?

Great. But what happens AFTER registration but BEFORE confiscation, or if confiscation never happens? Specifically, what happens if you need to defend your life or the lives of your loved ones during that period?

You crack out that un-registered rifle and even if you defeat the home invaders (or whatever), you are now guilty of a Federal felony (possession of an AW). How much prepping do you think you'll be doing in a Federal pen? Can you defend your family from behind bars? How will your savings be holding up after 10 years with no income, and having spent 100k on legal fees?

So these two rifles are for that period of time after registration when we all still need to defend ourselves. If they get confiscated, then truly the S has HTF, but at least you are prepared for it. If they get used, again, you were prepared.

If the AWB never happens, the prep is still legit -- take the money and...prep!

Interested to hear your opinions.
A couple of thoughts.

In California NFA items are de-facto banned, so buying ARs and AKs by the crate won't do you guys any good if a ban is passed.

Setting aside the Constitutional aspect, unless you're a die hard AK or AR fan i'd sell them for top-dollar right now, before any laws come down and the prices are nice and high. If we prevail in Washington things will go back to normal and you can probably purchase MORE gear when the market corrects downward.

If things go to pot in DC you guys will lose the guns anyway and the market won't be as favorable if you want to sell , so there you have it.

Another thought to consider: even if you register an AR or AK after a renewed AWB is passed, you're still one idiot cop away from losing your rifle anyway.

Sure, you have papers showing the gun's legal, but if a cop gets a bug in their hiney about "assault weapons" a legal NFA stamp won't stop them from seizing your evil rifle under whatever pretense they can make up on the side of the highway. They'll illegally seize your property and dare you to take it up with the Judge if you have any hard feelings. In a society which is demonizing ARs , owning one -even legally-will be a Scarlett Letter proposition. Even today some people think there's no reason for ordinary people to own AR15s. Imagine how widespread that attitude will be 10 years after commercial sale of them has been outlawed.

Panicky rangemasters wanting to stay off the government's radar will ban ARs from the firing line, panicky cops will jail you on sight of a 30 round magazine, and drama queen ex-wives and girlfriends will wave pictures of your registered "Assault Weapon" around in family court as proof you're a psycho. Ownership of these guns after a ban is liable to the a major pain in the a** even beyond the government paperwork. Owning an AR after a ban will be akin to the situation of an openly gay Muslim living in Riyadh Saudi Arabia.
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There is no assault weapon ban.

DiFi is going to introduce a GUN ban. Plain and simple.
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Worse then the GUN ban is the soon to be proposed California law requiring us to get a Federal background check to buy ammo in the state of California.

The Feds might get around to processing your request in a couple of years or so, as they can't even keep up on the checks they are REQUIRED to do for all new hires in Federal Civil Service let alone ones they have NO legal mandate to complete.
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Worse then the GUN ban is the soon to be proposed California law requiring us to get a Federal background check to buy ammo in the state of California.

The Feds might get around to processing your request in a couple of years or so, as they can't even keep up on the checks they are REQUIRED to do for all new hires in Federal Civil Service let alone ones they have NO legal mandate to complete.
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Old 12-31-2012, 8:12 PM
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Find & buy a Ruger Mini 14 rifle.

Spend all your remaining $$$ on ammo....ammo.....ammo and more ammo.

When your neighbor's AR 15 needs ammo...guess what?...You'll be very popular.
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The Mini-14 is on the new AWB list
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The return of the Level Action Winchester, may the 1873 win the west all over again
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The return of the Level Action Winchester, may the 1873 win the west all over again
That's what I've been thinking...

Buying pump shotguns, lever actions and bolt guns may be wise.
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That's not good.
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were those the polymer lowers?
Yes they were. Why?
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The 10/22 is on Difi's list if I read the banned features list correctly.....
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Registration is LAUGHABLE! Heres why.........

Ever attend a gun show?
Ever buy bullets?
Ever buy a gun magazine?
Ever surf a gun website?
Ever look at pictures of guns online?
Belong to any gun club?
NRA member?
Ever go shooting at a range?
Ever buy reloading supplies?
Ever buy gun care products?
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If YES to any of the above they already have you on a list. The Utah fusion center isn't keeping track of Terrorists in a foreign land its watching you and me!
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Its going to be a wild ride for the next 4 years! Buckle up!

They have flipped over some of their cards but not all. In my opinion the RADICAL LEFT has a 50 year game plan and is 50 moves ahead of its opposition (enemies). You can see that with the Muslim N Chief. They groomed him from childhood to be the president. And to think that we get to "Vote" for a president is laughable. Its all predetermined! We get to choose one of their puppets but both are puppets of the global elite.


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Prepping for a possible AW ban, right now, is straightforward. Good thing is that even if the AWB never happens (which we hope and work for), this prep will still have you in a good position.

Here's the prep: Save Money, say 3000 dollars. The money is to buy two semi-auto rifles that you will register under any AWB that might happen. Think of them as insurance, and as sacrifices.

Here's the thinking:

AWB happens, and we must register all semi-auto rifles. You say, "No way, confiscation is next." OK, even though that's never happened (we had an AWB in this country before, and there was no confiscation), we as preppers want to be prepared, right? So you have those rifles you lost in that boating accident, and you'll go scuba diving for them after any acts of confiscation, right?

Great. But what happens AFTER registration but BEFORE confiscation, or if confiscation never happens? Specifically, what happens if you need to defend your life or the lives of your loved ones during that period?

You crack out that un-registered rifle and even if you defeat the home invaders (or whatever), you are now guilty of a Federal felony (possession of an AW). How much prepping do you think you'll be doing in a Federal pen? Can you defend your family from behind bars? How will your savings be holding up after 10 years with no income, and having spent 100k on legal fees?

So these two rifles are for that period of time after registration when we all still need to defend ourselves. If they get confiscated, then truly the S has HTF, but at least you are prepared for it. If they get used, again, you were prepared.

If the AWB never happens, the prep is still legit -- take the money and...prep!

Interested to hear your opinions.
Umm they did confiscate the Sks with detachable magazines after they were registered
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A couple of thoughts.

In California NFA items are de-facto banned, so buying ARs and AKs by the crate won't do you guys any good if a ban is passed.
not entirely correct.

in CA, CA defined MGs, SBx, DDs, and Silencers are banned. CA does not just say that NFA items are banned. If the feds amend the NFA to include a new 2013 definition of AWs, it doesn't make those AWs illegal in CA unless CA banned them as well.
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The majority of the United States voted socialism. that means guns are now bad ,bad,bad. The people who have taken an oath to uphold the constitution do not.
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Registration is LAUGHABLE! Heres why.........

Ever attend a gun show?
Ever buy bullets?
Ever buy a gun magazine?
Ever surf a gun website?
Ever look at pictures of guns online?
Belong to any gun club?
NRA member?
Ever go shooting at a range?
Ever buy reloading supplies?
Ever buy gun care products?
Any of your neighbors or friends know you own a gun?
Ever buy a gun safe?

If YES to any of the above they already have you on a list. The Utah fusion center isn't keeping track of Terrorists in a foreign land its watching you and me!
Hint,,, we are the enemy!
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Umm they did confiscate the Sks with detachable magazines after they were registered
Zing! That was my thought too. Confiscation happened fairly recently.
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No disrespect guys but I've only owned lever or bolt action firearms and can take down anything I ever could with my Gov't issued M-16. Don't need 30 rounds to make your point. One round one down! Black rifles look cool, and they ARE slick, but give me my 30-30 or swede Mauser and I'm a happy man!

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There's no disrespect in choosing for yourself. The disrespect comes when you un-Constitutionally limit the choices of others.
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No disrespect guys but I've only owned lever or bolt action firearms and can take down anything I ever could with my Gov't issued M-16. Don't need 30 rounds to make your point. One round one down! Black rifles look cool, and they ARE slick, but give me my 30-30 or swede Mauser and I'm a happy man! OOOOOAAAAAA!!!!!!
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Now would be the time for someone besides Mossy to make a bolt gun that takes AR mags. Ditto AR-10 mags.
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Amen Vegas ND, they went to far when the only toilet allowed in your own house has to be flushed twice, defeating the purpose of low water use!!!!!
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No disrespect guys but I've only owned lever or bolt action firearms and can take down anything I ever could with my Gov't issued M-16. Don't need 30 rounds to make your point. One round one down! Black rifles look cool, and they ARE slick, but give me my 30-30 or swede Mauser and I'm a happy man!
I didn't protest when they came for the .50s...cuz I didn't own a .50

I didn't protest when they came for the Chinese guns...cuz I didn't own a Chinese gun

I didn't protest when they came for the detachable mags....cuz I didn't own detachable mags

I didn't protest when they came for the ARs...cuz I didn't own an AR

Now they want anything above a single shot and are coming for mine....but no one else is protesting for me to keep my lever/bolt guns...cuz their guns are already gone.

ONE BIT AT A TIME is the antis LONG TERM plan. The point isn't what gun you choose to own....it is that you have a choice to own anything you want and NOT just what THEY will ALLOW you to own.

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I didn't protest when they came for the .50s...cuz I didn't own a .50

I didn't protest when they came for the Chinese guns...cuz I didn't own a Chinese gun

I didn't protest when they came for the detachable mags....cuz I didn't own detachable mags

I didn't protest when they came for the ARs...cuz I didn't own an AR

Now they want anything above a single shot and are coming for mine....but no one else is protesting for me to keep my lever/bolt guns...cuz their guns are already gone.

ONE BIT AT A TIME is the antis LONG TERM plan. The point isn't what gun you choose to own....it is that you have a choice to own anything you want and NOT just what THEY will ALLOW you to own.
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Registration is LAUGHABLE! Heres why.........

Ever attend a gun show?
Ever buy bullets?
Ever buy a gun magazine?
Ever surf a gun website?
Ever look at pictures of guns online?
Belong to any gun club?
NRA member?
Ever go shooting at a range?
Ever buy reloading supplies?
Ever buy gun care products?
Any of your neighbors or friends know you own a gun?
Ever buy a gun safe?

If YES to any of the above they already have you on a list. The Utah fusion center isn't keeping track of Terrorists in a foreign land its watching you and me!

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Mass rioting by gun owners would change the politicians minds but people will just turn in their guns with the blank I watch TV all day look in their eyes. I sold my last gun yesterday to beat the bans.
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You crack out that un-registered rifle and even if you defeat the home invaders (or whatever), you are now guilty of a Federal felony (possession of an AW). How much prepping do you think you'll be doing in a Federal pen? Can you defend your family from behind bars? How will your savings be holding up after 10 years with no income, and having spent 100k on legal fees?
OK so if I took the risk of not registering my "assault weapon" Why would I then use it as my HD weapon? Especially when its common knowledge that the police will confiscate any weapon used in an incident. I would imagine that anyone smart enough to prep for the AW ban would be smart enough to not expose himself that way.
Try a different scenario to make your point
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Old 01-10-2013, 7:21 PM
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Mass rioting by gun owners would change the politicians minds but people will just turn in their guns with the blank I watch TV all day look in their eyes. I sold my last gun yesterday to beat the bans.
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PVC pipe, cosmoline and a post hole digger come to mind.
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