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Old 12-23-2012, 3:03 PM
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Why don't we have a sticky or dedicated page for guns statistic facts that we can use to debate and educate our anti gun friends?
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Old 12-23-2012, 3:07 PM
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You can start here:

http://www.gunfacts.info/
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Old 12-23-2012, 5:51 PM
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I actually like this one more:

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

The site doesn't seem to be so single-issue focused.
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I actually like this one more:

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

The site doesn't seem to be so single-issue focused.
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Old 12-23-2012, 6:38 PM
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A history lesson never hurts:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=662342
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Why don't we have a sticky or dedicated page for guns statistic facts that we can use to debate and educate our anti gun friends?
Not statistics, but merely a collection of examples I've come across of Good Guys using LTCs to save lives, currently at 50:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=598875
Sometimes real life examples/videos can move people more than dry statistics. Best to have both available to use.

While my list only has LTC/CCWers (or off-duty LEOs ("virtual" LTCers)), the NRA's Armed Citizen column also has examples of people using guns to save lives at businesses and residences:
www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen.aspx
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Old 12-23-2012, 7:09 PM
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I suggest that you buy the book "More Guns, Less Crime" by John Lott. If you're arguing gun statistics that is your best resource. I think it's in it's 3rd edition now.

It's worth every penny, and surprisingly not as dry as a book of statistics would be expected to be, imo.
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This is also a great resource:

http://gunowners.org/fs0404.htm
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But the gun-control nuts don't understand statistics, so there's little point.

They want to live in a world where there are no guns; statistics do not give them that.
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But the gun-control nuts don't understand statistics, so there's little point.

They want to live in a world where there are no guns; statistics do not give them that.
X1000 My second biggest issue with anti gun people as they just won't admit they just want guns gone regardless of the facts.
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