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Default Who is less dangerous ? (Candidates for CA governor)

A preliminary poll suggests it close between Gavin Newsome and the reconquista,former mayor of Los Angeles, Tony Villargrosia.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/0...-on-his-heels/
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Both are Liberal idiots, We're screwed.
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Tony Villa, now known as Antonio Villaraigosia is not very smart.
He failed the bar exam 3 times.
Gavin Newscum is probably smarter but suffers from ethics conflicts and control syndrome.
I'll take the dunce over the unethical control freak.

Both are horrible candidates.
Aren't there any conservative candidates? ..
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It's possible we could get a competitive republican before the election.Someone once mentioned Rocky Chavez,who is a current legislator IRC.
One thing certain,we will need unity,boots on the ground and luck. Another unknown is the President Trump wild card. If he gets employment up where democrats live and notice that might make a difference,along with school vouchers.
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Both are horrible candidates.
Aren't there any conservative candidates? ..
Wouldn't matter

Top two vote-getters move from the primary to the general for all offices other than POTUS regardless of party.

The supermajority is only going to increase from here on out until they run out of other people's money and the state turns into Baja Norte.
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Wouldn't matter

Top two vote-getters move from the primary to the general for all offices other than POTUS regardless of party.

The supermajority is only going to increase from here on out until they run out of other people's money and the state turns into Baja Norte.
While you are probably right, I'm not going to give up that easily -- unless the pieces fall in place for an escape from this disastrous state.
As long as I am stuck here I am going to fight.
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Where is the Ca. Republican party and why aren't they putting one candidate out there and getting behind him. They make it too easy for the liberal idiots.
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Tony Villa, now known as Antonio Villaraigosia is not very smart.
He failed the bar exam 3 times.
Gavin Newscum is probably smarter but suffers from ethics conflicts and control syndrome.
I'll take the dunce over the unethical control freak.

Both are horrible candidates.
Aren't there any conservative candidates? ..
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Where is the Ca. Republican party and why aren't they putting one candidate out there and getting behind him. They make it too easy for the liberal idiots.
Put yourself in their shoes.

You have a finite amount of money.
You have a tough battle coming up next year to retain control of the House and the Senate.
Are you going to spend more than a token amount in an area that has been against you 60/40 for the last 10 years?

The conservative districts in California are relatively safe.
The liberal districts will never be ours.
The senate and state offices are lost and have been since Wilson left office (please don't count Ahhnold)
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I don't know, I can't decide. Marx has his strong points, but so does Engels.
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Both are Liberal idiots, We're screwed.
I'm going to study their economic positions and the one that promises to destroy California sooner rather than later is the one I'll vote for.
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Newsome is more likely to get himself in trouble with his D and drinking problem. Which means more bad press for democrats. Which means more good press for republicans.
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Newsome is more likely to get himself in trouble with his D and drinking problem. Which means more bad press for democrats. Which means more good press for republicans.
Doesn't matter...the Bay Area elites and fringe groups think Gavin is God.

Substance abuse and lack of morals considered bonus points.
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Melissa Melendez for Governor!
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Which idiots claim to be Republican and support Tony Villar or Gavin Newscum? 5% for each?
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Which idiots claim to be Republican and support Tony Villar or Gavin Newscum? 5% for each?
Hopefully no one ! Just sort of kicking around idea's if there is any difference that could make one less objectionable than the other.

It's even possibile neither of these gunowner hating,open border,terrorist/criminal, coddling candidate's will represent the party that endorse everything that been rejected by states who rejected Hilldog!
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Kevin Faulconer, Republican mayor of San Diego, has been mentioned as a possible GOP candidate for governor.

Not real impressed, likely a RINO...but he'd still be better than pretty boy Newsom or Reconquista Tony.
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Tony Villar is a reconquista, might as well turn California officially back to Mexico. Faulconer is a corrupt local RINO with very dirty hands over the local "Sucker City" proposals here in San Diego. He is a lightweight and would never survive a nasty state wide campaign. We will have a choice of two democrats for governator, no republican could ever make the ballot here.

Our best chance is Carl DeMio's recall against the Orange County state senator that was the carry-over vote for that gas tax increase. That is the super majority senator that created the 2/3's super majority required votes for any tax increase without public approval.

Get rid of him and the super majority goes away along with any non-public supported tax increases. That will stop the Gav in his tracks.
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Tony Villar is a reconquista, might as well turn California officially back to Mexico. Faulconer is a corrupt local RINO with very dirty hands over the local "Sucker City" proposals here in San Diego. He is a lightweight and would never survive a nasty state wide campaign. We will have a choice of two democrats for governator, no republican could ever make the ballot here.

Our best chance is Carl DeMio's recall against the Orange County state senator that was the carry-over vote for that gas tax increase. That is the super majority senator that created the 2/3's super majority required votes for any tax increase without public approval.

Get rid of him and the super majority goes away along with any non-public supported tax increases. That will stop the Gav in his tracks.
They've lost the super majority before and quickly gotten it back. Democrats are in charge and that's the way it will stay. Gavin and even a majority will spell disaster for this state.
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I don't care.
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I think only real hope we have, is to hopefully bring back balance through the judicial system...
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I think only real hope we have, is to hopefully bring back balance through the judicial system...
Unfortunately Jerry has been loading the California courts with screaming activist left wing judges for the last 7 years. He and the Democrat party have cemented their power base for the next couple of generations at least.
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Unfortunately Jerry has been loading the California courts with screaming activist left wing judges for the last 7 years. He and the Democrat party have cemented their power base for the next couple of generations at least.
I thought Federal Judges were nominated by the POTUS and confirmed through the Senate, no? It's the Federal Courts that will be able to block this non-sense.
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I thought Federal Judges were nominated by the POTUS and confirmed through the Senate, no? It's the Federal Courts that will be able to block this non-sense.
True... I was talking California courts.

Nonetheless, the SCOTUS has been little help to us as far as how I interpret the 2nd Amendment...even with Scalia.
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Newsome is more likely to get himself in trouble with his D and drinking problem. Which means more bad press for democrats. Which means more good press for republicans.
Marion Berry was reelected Mayor of DC after he finished his prison term for doing crack in a motel room with a hooker.

If you have a (D) by your name, you are teflon in California. Unless it's a criminal charge that happens to stick, like Leland Yee, nothing will hurt you morally or ethically.
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LMFAO.

I seem to remember an awful lot of folks around here urging people to vote for Brown because even though he was a D, he was also a "friend" to gun owners.

You see where that got us.

When TF are people here going to learn?

We have no friends in state government.
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Both are dismal choices and will be equally disastrous for our state. Sorry, there's no daylight between the 2 on any of the important issues.
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LMFAO.

I seem to remember an awful lot of folks around here urging people to vote for Brown because even though he was a D, he was also a "friend" to gun owners.

You see where that got us.

When TF are people here going to learn?

We have no friends in state government.
Ya, I voted for brown because whitman was little more than arnold in drag... If whitman had won, we'd have grusome-newsome for governor right now - instead of in the upcoming term.

This strategy gave me the time I needed to get my move to Idaho under way. Right now, I'm feeling pretty damn smart for playing my cards this way. You? you'll probably stay in Kali and whine about it. Laters!!!
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It'll be Newsom. Not much we can do about it. Too bad the GOP is also a steaming pile of garbage nowadays.
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Both are dismal choices and will be equally disastrous for our state. Sorry, there's no daylight between the 2 on any of the important issues.
This is absolutely correct. Both will sign every bill that is forwarded to them by the legislature.
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It'll be Newsom. Not much we can do about it. Too bad the GOP is also a steaming pile of garbage nowadays.
Tell that to the folks who are moving to and now live in free aka Republican states. You got a problem with GOP,let them know .
We Californiaians got here by that kind of logic being continually spewed !
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Top two vote-getters move from the primary to the general for all offices other than POTUS regardless of party.

The supermajority is only going to increase from here on out until they run out of other people's money and the state turns into Baja Norte.
Correct, the so-called "open primary". The fool voters approved this on a ballot initiative some time ago. It enshrines the Democratic party's status in the state, and makes it extremely difficult for any Repub to make it beyond the primaries. It is an abomination. Take our recent Senate election for Barbara "Bouncer" Boxer. We had a choice between a liberal, or a liberal. So I didn't vote for Senate.
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