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Old 08-14-2007, 6:34 PM
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Default Cheap .223 Bolt Action?

potentially interested in a "plinker with a kick" rifle. i just bought a .22 and want to purchase a .308 700 in the near future. im just lookin for a medium caliber to fill in the gap. i open to suggestions and/or offers. unfortunately, my budget is kinda low, so im lookin at the 300-400 (with a scope) range.
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Old 08-14-2007, 6:42 PM
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savage 11 Fps have a few 223s for around 400-450.

like this one:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/78430

but if you want a cheap center fire rifle you may be looking at a not-so-long relationship if you intend to shoot it a lot, and the lower end models typically have non-replacable barrels so....yeah....
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Old 08-14-2007, 6:46 PM
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How about:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=78111312
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Old 08-14-2007, 6:47 PM
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Sounds like you want a Savage Stevens rifle. I've heard pretty good things about them.
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Old 08-14-2007, 6:58 PM
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Sounds like you want a Savage Stevens rifle. I've heard pretty good things about them.
taht's the really affordable one I was thinking of from Savage.

Too bad the Mossberg ATR line doesn't have a 223 offering.

I cannot stress the importance on not to skimp on the rifle itself though. The cheaper rifles are usually a great value for the shooter who goes varmint shooting once a year, fire about 20-30 rounds each season and put away fro the rest of the year, but not for the frequent plinker, at least that's my experience with rifles. YMMV if you are good at maintaining barrels.

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Old 08-14-2007, 7:24 PM
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YMMV if you are good at maintaining barrels.

The Stevens is the same as the Savage when it comes to changing barrels.

Vise, blocks and a barrel nut wrench with 15 minutes to kill = barrel change.
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The Stevens is the same as the Savage when it comes to changing barrels.

Vise, blocks and a barrel nut wrench with 15 minutes to kill = barrel change.
good to know,

I think I'm thinking of the Remington 710 series in regards to the barrel thing, I could be mistaken though. I don't own that many evil-black-ultra-tactical-baby-deer-killing-long-range-sniper-rifles...

BTW won't a new barrel cost a bundle too?
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Savage/Stevens will give you a lot more flexibility over the ATR, all parts are essentially interchangeable from the Savage. (The Stevens will take the aftermarket Savage triggers, just not the factor AccuTrigger). Price is generally comparable between the Stevens M200 and the comparable Mossy AT. The Remmington 710 is the one that's supposedly not able to have the barrel swapped. The Stevens will of course take the Savage barrels.

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good to know,

I think I'm thinking of the Remington 710 series in regards to the barrel thing, I could be mistaken though. I don't own that many evil-black-ultra-tactical-baby-deer-killing-long-range-sniper-rifles...

BTW won't a new barrel cost a bundle too?
Shilen prefits can be had for under $300. Not bad for a match quality barrel. I've seen ER Shaw barrels for anywhere from $225-250 prethreaded and chambered for the Savage.
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for the past 45 minutes...ive been trying to register at gunbroker.com....but im STILL trying to find my ISP's email!!!! i havent touched that email in 6+ years

as for the remington 710....i saw that at my local gunshop today for around 450 WITH a scope brand new but sold on the used side....the gunsmith that owned the store said it was preowned, never shot but its worth crap....he didnt even want to even sell the rifle to me. i guess its just that bad?
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When I first went looking for a rifle I was told to stay clear of the 710. I should get the howa or a savage.
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not planning on getting the 710, but whats so horrific about it?
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Do you want a hunter, a tacticalol bipod hogue stock thing, or just something in 223 you can use?

I have a rifle similar to this one I might be willing to sell:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=77833592
it has a Bushnell straight 6X on it & shoots pretty good.
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not planning on getting the 710, but whats so horrific about it?
My buddy and a couple of salesmen said the exact same thing about the 710. They are throw away guns. basically Remington skimped every place they could to meet a certain price. This really compromises the guns potential.
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not planning on getting the 710, but whats so horrific about it?
i think i heard (on snipercentral) that the reason it's a one-shoot throwaway is the fact that the barrel cannot be changed so once the barrel is shot, the rifle is useless.
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Here's the one I really like, but it's a little out of your price range -

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=78282085
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what i dont get is that they dont have reserve on these rifles....can i bid $1 and literally have the rifle fall into my hands?
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what i dont get is that they dont have reserve on these rifles....can i bid $1 and literally have the rifle fall into my hands?
Starting bids are listed on the side chief.
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Starting bids are listed on the side chief.
well no **** huh
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man, now that i actually see all those start bids...the only one that comes close is that remington 700. i think ill just buy the .308 and try to scope out a .223 sooner or later. thanks for the suggestions guys!
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http://www.turners.com/engage/displa.../howam1500.gif

It is a sporter type barrel but is cheap.
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http://www.turners.com/engage/displa.../howam1500.gif

It is a sporter type barrel but is cheap.
Forget that...
Turners Norwalk has a used 700 VLS 223 for $400...
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Build an AR with a barrel which has no drilled gas port.

It's a bolt action .223 rifle. not cheap, though.
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potentially interested in a "plinker with a kick" rifle. i just bought a .22 and want to purchase a .308 700 in the near future. im just lookin for a medium caliber to fill in the gap. i open to suggestions and/or offers. unfortunately, my budget is kinda low, so im lookin at the 300-400 (with a scope) range.
If CHEAP is what you are going after..... this is probably best BANG for your buck.... on sale tomorrow @ Turners.... $479...... complete with scope!!!

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Howa M-1500 Scope Package - One Piece Forged Bolt, OD Green Hogue Overmold Stock, Hammer Forged Barrel, Hinged Floor Plate, .223, .243, .270, 30-06 Or .308. *Complete With Nikko 3-10x42MM Nighteater Scope With Leupold Bases And Rings.
Item#'s 102576, 102578, 102579, 102581, 102580
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Check out the Stevens Model 200 Short Action.
It is a Savage Model 10 without the accutrigger that sells or around $300-$350.
http://www.savagearms.com/st_200short.htm

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I was in a similar situation for yours, looking for a cheap centerfire rifle to plink with that was a step up from my current .22 CZ 452. However, after looking at milsurps, used bolts, etc. I settled on an NEF Handi Rifle in .223. I bought it used online at Whittakers for $175, $190 shipped. It's a single-shot break action, so if you're really enamoured with the idea of a bolt-action, this may not be for you, but if you want something economical that is also accurate, you might want to check it out. I just filled out the paperwork today, so it'll be about 2 weeks before I get a chance to shoot it, but from what I've heard on some of the forums, it seems as though I won't be disappointed. The best part is that you can send the receiver back to H&R and have it fitted with any barrel/caliber they offer, from .22lr all the way up to .308/.30-06. There are even shotgun barrels you can have fitted! I think whittakers still has a used .223 one (laminated varmint version) for about $219 with scope listed under the H&R section of their used rifles. After shipping and FFL transfer fees, you'll still be under $300, and you have the option to shoot whatever else caliber you feel like if you get the barrel for it.
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