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Old 01-04-2013, 1:55 PM
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The Vegas and Phoenix ammuntion markets are in for an infusion of wealth at the expense of the California economy.

I for one will be making my purchases out of state and bringing my ammo back with me every chance I get if this passes.
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The Vegas and Phoenix ammuntion markets are in for an infusion of wealth at the expense of the California economy.

I for one will be making my purchases out of state and bringing my ammo back with me every chance I get if this passes.
CA will change the names of the Ag Check Points to Ag and Ammo Check Points!

No doubt they will force OR, NV and AZ to restrict sales of Ammo to people with CA IDs. Or add rules against the importation of AMMO.
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•Require ammunition purchasers to show identification,
•Require ammunition sellers to be licensed dealers,
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MOTHER FSCK, AGAIN!?!?!?
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Is this the same as the De Leon one?
Similar, but De Leon wants us all to buy a $50 dollar ammo card just for the priviledge of buying ammo and get fingerprinted for each purchase.
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let them try :-)

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There's already an official thread on this

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...50#post9977850
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Maybe they'll outlaw buttocks too, since you can technically beat someone to death with one--LMAO.
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CA will change the names of the Ag Check Points to Ag and Ammo Check Points!

No doubt they will force OR, NV and AZ to restrict sales of Ammo to people with CA IDs. Or add rules against the importation of AMMO.
They will force those states to make laws? That's not how it works.

CA could ban the importation of ammo. Which would be interesting to see them try to enforce it (how would they know where you bought it?).
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CA will change the .................................................. .............!

No doubt they will.............................................. .................................................. .....................
Please do not give them any ideas on how to re-write this bill

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They will force those states to make laws? That's not how it works.

CA could ban the importation of ammo. Which would be interesting to see them try to enforce it (how would they know where you bought it?).

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Well, if it passes, it will weed out all the hoarders, paranoid delusionists, and nut cases, and I might actualy be able to go into the store and buy a friggin box of ammo. **** it, I'm gonna support the damn thing.
This from a guy who's handle is "Compulsivegunbuyer"??? Ummm ok can I get ta WTF?
So your theory is that it's ok to buy guns compulsively but not the ammo?
Don't be such a crybaby, get up early and go to walnart before the turds wake up (anytime before noon!) and you'll get some too! I got 6 boxes of federal 100 rd .223 for 34.97 each last week. Right place right time so far Walmart ain't gouging! 36 cents a round! I may try to flip them in the calguns marketplace for double that!!
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Guys please stop giving them ideas... Really please. On a side note the ammo cards are shall issue so while its an inconvenience it's not a show stopper. I'm way more concerned about SB-47!
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This from a guy who's handle is "Compulsivegunbuyer"??? Ummm ok can I get ta WTF?
So your theory is that it's ok to buy guns compulsively but not the ammo?
Don't be such a crybaby, get up early and go to walnart before the turds wake up (anytime before noon!) and you'll get some too! I got 6 boxes of federal 100 rd .223 for 34.97 each last week. Right place right time so far Walmart ain't gouging! 36 cents a round! I may try to flip them in the calguns marketplace for double that!!
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Old 01-04-2013, 2:34 PM
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Umm guys I'm gonna say this one more time: I saw AT LEAST one or two items in this thread that they would love to incorporate into the bill. Please refrain from any further discussion that would help them!
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While AB 962 got injunction based on being vague, the real "meat" behind the challenge to AB 962 was about a state trying to regulate interstate commerce. Should this bill pass, there is a ready lawsuit. This type of challenge has already been successfully applied in other states that tried the same trick with mail order tobacco.

The more these silly bills get introduced, the sooner we'll have some meaningful court precedents on our side which will forever close future attempts of this kind. This works for us.
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I'll just stick to the non-deadly ammo then

Where do they sell that?
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So basically the same ruling on AB 962 would therefore apply to this bill, but the authors and organizations behind it still ultimately win for "trying".
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A very wise non emotional response from IVC. Thanks!.
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Umm guys I'm gonna say this one more time: I saw AT LEAST one or two items in this thread that they would love to incorporate into the bill. Please refrain from any further discussion that would help them!
THIS.

Guys, Please edit your posts. Lets NOT include helpful info for the antis.
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These scum bags are coming out of the woodworks. This place is going to be hell next year.
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While AB 962 got injunction based on being vague, the real "meat" behind the challenge to AB 962 was about a state trying to regulate interstate commerce. Should this bill pass, there is a ready lawsuit. This type of challenge has already been successfully applied in other states that tried the same trick with mail order tobacco.

The more these silly bills get introduced, the sooner we'll have some meaningful court precedents on our side which will forever close future attempts of this kind. This works for us.
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This bill can be especially dangerous because it does not limit the ability of the state to restrict sales or what it can do to inhibit sales under this law. It can raise fees to such heights that sellers cannot afford to sell in the state, criteria can be so strict no one qualifies, etc. Generalized laws can be the worst of all because it gives the anti-gun people wide latitude in what they can do because they are not confined in how they accomplish what they truly want under the law. The courts are going to look at the limit lines in the law and if there are none then the courts are not likely to over turn the law. if you can't beat a law make sure as many of restrictions as possible are included on government agencies until you can appeal it.
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How do you convert a clip into a magazine?
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THIS.

Guys, Please edit your posts. Lets NOT include helpful info for the antis.
I find myself wanting to comment, and then see posts like the two above. It's hard for me to not get excited/worked up and try to brainstorm for answers -And then post the results. Thank you for a reminder to keep my pie hole shut. I don't want to see us improve these rights-snatching bills of effluent written by these civil-rights deniers and traitors to our Constitution.
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In Sacramento we already have to show ID, get finger printed, and be logged for ammo purchases. Now Ill have a Purdy ID card too wheeee!
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In Sacramento we already have to show ID, get finger printed, and be logged for ammo purchases. Now Ill have a Purdy ID card too wheeee!
I have a feeling what you already live with will just become state law, short of a governor veto.
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No doubt they will force OR, NV and AZ to restrict sales of Ammo to people with CA IDs.
OR, NV, and AZ don't require ID to buy ammo and are as disgusted by CA laws as we are.
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You use the shoulder thing that goes up.
only if it's being administered with the barrel shroud.
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This bill was likely constructed by a staff of advisors tasked to read this forum.

Illustrating all the shortcomings that are in this legislation as it's currently written gives them a roadmap to revise it. Should it pass, it will get jammed up in court by CGF and other entities. Let's not fight the grabbers' battle for them. Run silent, run deep, folks.
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Mig welder.
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In Sacramento we already have to show ID, get finger printed, and be logged for ammo purchases. Now Ill have a Purdy ID card too wheeee!
City of Los Angeles as well.
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... Ever look at the bottom of a pack of cigarettes? ...
Perhaps you should look that up and see why.
It's actually not relevant to ammunition sales at all.
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They will force those states to make laws? That's not how it works.

CA could ban the importation of ammo. Which would be interesting to see them try to enforce it (how would they know where you bought it?).
That would be in violation of the interstate commerce clause.
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Assembly Bill 48 will place boundaries on the bullets that have ravaged our communities
they'll limit the distance a bullet can travel? I bet they bring in some Hollywood screenwriters, just to script some of these lines...so serious
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Skinner said. “If common cold medicines, alcohol and tobacco are regulated for their risk to public health and safety, why isn’t ammunition?
I wonder why it never dawns on these "intelligent" people that the right to have medicines, booze and tobacco aren't addressed in the Bill of Rights.
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