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Looks tight as a drum to me. Damn... Yee really did his homework.
For Yee to have done homework, it implies that he had a clue...
You mean LCAV (Now the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence) may have done some homework....
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For Yee to have done homework, it implies that he had a clue...
You mean LCAV (Noe the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence) may have done some homework....
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Greetings fellow gun lovers.

Like many of you, I too am looking for ways to scoff the law and rules that keep society safe from mass murderers by keeping my military-style rapid fire assault rifles with high capacity clips. It's my God-given right to have 100s of rounds of cop-killer ammo for hunting.

Based on the way the propossed legistlation is written, what loopholes might there be that will allow me to keep my guns so that me and my family will be safe from gangs and rapists?

Don't worry about me being a gun grabber. As you can see from my username, I am totally not. Plus Senator Yee is a stupid communist.

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And how would all of this affect 80% builds since there are no serial numbers?
As written compliance means registration, so you need a serial number I would assume.
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As written compliance means registration, so you need a serial number I would assume.
correct, those that had homebuilt 50BMG rifles had to serialize them in 2004.
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Are you for real?
I'm pretty sure he is a legit CA gun owner concerned about his eroding second amendment rights. (insert sarcasm).
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One more question please. This is on 80% pistol builds. Would these be included in SB47 as well?
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One more question please. This is on 80% pistol builds. Would these be included in SB47 as well?
Does it matter?

We should all be united behind this on principle alone. It's reactionary, do-nothing legistlation seeking to create a problem and then solve it for someone's political legacy. All while grandstanding on the corpses of children.

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Anyone see Yee's facebook page for the bullet button? It's hilarious. I wonder how many 'bullet buttoned' AR 15's were responsible for murders in California last year?
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Anyone see Yee's facebook post for the bullet button? It's hilarious. I wonder how many 'bullet buttoned' AR 15's were responsible for murders in California last year?
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Anyone see Yee's facebook post for the bullet button? It's hilarious. I wonder how many 'bullet buttoned' AR 15's were responsible for murders in California last year?
LOL, almost unanimous opposition to SB47 on his own page. He's going to have to start banning people to save face.
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LOL, almost unanimous opposition to SB47 on his own page. He's going to have to start banning people to save face.
If everyone who posted something on his page would also send him a concise, polite, printed letter (on paper) indicating their opposition to the bill, that would be a huge help.
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We beat it last year. Email, snail mail, and call your reps over and over. I'll be doing it several times a week. Do the same to Jerry Brown if it goes to his desk. Jerry is partly responsible for OLL's in the first place, and has veto'd all gun bills that haven't involved open carry, so there is a good chance he won't sign.
doesn't matter the legislature is veto proof. doesn't matter what brown does.
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If everyone who posted something on his page would also send him a concise, polite, printed letter (on paper) indicating their opposition to the bill, that would be a huge help.
How would it help? That would be a waste of energy.
Now, volunteering for cgf and cgn, to get the word out to the public would be a huge help.
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doesn't matter the legislature is veto proof. doesn't matter what brown does.
Fail, as not all dems are anti
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Fail, as not all dems are anti
yeah ok. we'll see about that when party pressure is put on them they will vote for it.
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I think I'm missing something. I have two questions.

1 So the result of this new definition of AW is to prevent the future sale/import/manufacture of AWs in CA? That seems to be the goal, right?

2. I didn't live in the state for the last AW registration. Can a person who legally owned the firearm and is not a prohibited person be denied the registration?

On a side note, I guess Mr Yee doesn't care about the jobs or industry that will be impacted by this at all... I hope the firearms manufacturing/retail industry goes after this hard. I assume it may increase the unemployment rate.
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i left a few comments on his page. people are really letting him have it on this crappy legislation he's pushing.
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I think I'm missing something. I have two questions.

1 So the result of this new definition of AW is to prevent the future sale/import/manufacture of AWs in CA? That seems to be the goal, right?

2. I didn't live in the state for the last AW registration. Can a person who legally owned the firearm and is not a prohibited person be denied the registration?

On a side note, I guess Mr Yee doesn't care about the jobs or industry that will be impacted by this at all... I hope the firearms manufacturing/retail industry goes after this hard. I assume it may increase the unemployment rate.
The goal is to ban the bullet button by changing the definition of fixed magazine to exclude bullet buttons. AWs are already largely banned from sale, import, and manufacture, and will continue to regardless of this bill.

I don't see any reason to conclude this bill will affect sales numbers for non-AW firearms after this goes into effect.
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When will some flyer jpegs be available for the new Stop Yee / SB47 campaign? I passed out a ton of them last time around for SB249, and would like to get started ASAP this time around.
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From the interview on his Facebook he claimed the attorney general (Kamala Harris) is backing him on this.
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I'll be taking my wife, my cat, all my toys, and our taxable income with me.
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From the interview on his Facebook he claimed the attorney general (Kamala Harris) is backing him on this.
of course she will democrats will back eachother up when the pressure is on. there is no pressure for harris she will be more than happy to cause gun owners problems.

who here liked his facebook page?
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The goal is to ban the bullet button by changing the definition of fixed magazine to exclude bullet buttons. AWs are already largely banned from sale, import, and manufacture, and will continue to regardless of this bill.

I don't see any reason to conclude this bill will affect sales numbers for non-AW firearms after this goes into effect.
Ah yes, I had a mistype, I meant 'ban furture sale/import/manufacture of AR's' not AWs. My bad on that typo.

I meant sales numbers of overall firearms. Since ARs are the best selling firearm in America, I assume it will severely impact CA. I could be wrong.

Any info on the other question I had about registering if this goes through?
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Ah yes, I had a mistype, I meant 'ban furture sale/import/manufacture of AR's' not AWs. My bad on that typo.

I meant sales numbers of overall firearms. Since ARs are the best selling firearm in America, I assume it will severely impact CA. I could be wrong.

Any info on the other question I had about registering if this goes through?
Yee has already said top loading will be a way to comply going forward, which I expect will be the typical AR configuration sold to newbies post SB47.

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Specifically, Yee’s SB 47 will prohibit the use of the bullet button and other devices that allow for easily changeable magazines on all military-style assault weapons, such as AR-15s. Under SB 47, featured weapons would only be allowed to have low capacity (10-round) ammunition magazines that could not be changed without dissembling the weapon. Essentially, bullets could only be loaded one-by-one from the top of the gun.
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Registration will likely be shall issue I suspect
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Fail, as not all dems are anti
But none of them live in PRK. Even the supposed pro-gun dems in US congress have been speaking for more gun control. Sorry, but when it really counts dems will always vote against us.
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We need a petition to oppose these bills, STAT, ASAP, PRONTO.
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is anyone on our side or is this it(it being our guns rights going bye bye)?

I was always understanding that federal law trumps state law... 2A(fed law) says "shall not be infringed"... all guns laws are infringing on 2A so someone pls explain to me what Im missing that this is all ok?!
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Ummm is it wrong part of me wants to see sb47 pass now? I don't think he understands what the new text does.

(I'm still against of course)
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Sen. Yee - that there is a briar patch. Please-o-please, whatever you do, DON'T toss me in there.

oh no. Pleeeeeaaaase don't.... [/roger rabbit voice]
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...I hope the firearms manufacturing/retail industry goes after this hard. I assume it may increase the unemployment rate.
I am sure it will, but they will not care. They do not care about 'those' kinds of jobs or businesses.
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Our only hope here is for gun-control politicians to step on our rights so extensively that the judiciary branch is forced to intervene and reverse it all
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