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Old 12-07-2012, 10:51 AM
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Default Need Help Pillar Bedding a Mosin Nagant

Hey All,

I'm looking for some advice on what products to use on a pillar bedding job for my Mosin. I'm trying to do this for as little out of pocket as possible.

Here's an example of what I'm planning on doing;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-VcWqFyP-A

I'd like to know what products you recommend;
1. They have to be cheap
2. They have to be readily available
3. And they shouldn't be overly complicated to work with

Here's what I had in mind;
$6.00 JB Weld
$14.50 Rock Solid Aluminum Bedding Pillars ($10 + $4.50 shipping)
$5.00 Kiwi Shoe Polish
$0.00 Pam Cooking Spray
$0.00 Painters Tape
$0.00 Make my own modeling clay (Flower+Salt+Water+Low Heat = Modeling Clay)

So here are my questions;
1. Are these products GTG?
2. Any cheaper or better alternatives?
(Specifically, the bedding pillars. $14.50 seems like a lot for some small aluminum tubing. I feel like I could just pickup some tubing and cut/drill it to size for a few dollars)

I feel like something like theses aluminum spacers would work well... and $2 sounds a lot better.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#unthreaded-spacers/=khq8yh

I appreciate the help.

Here's the link for the Rock Solid Bedding Pillars
http://www.rocksolidind.com/new-mosi...g-pillars.html

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Old 12-07-2012, 10:56 AM
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What majic do you expect this to perform on a MN?
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:58 AM
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What majic do you expect this to perform on a MN?
None, I'm just using it as something that I can practice on. I'd rather learn on a $89 rifle than my other stuff.
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Old 12-07-2012, 3:08 PM
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Get the cheap aluminum, it's doing the same function; keeping the wood from touching the barrel. If you ever decide to toolup, get a lathe and you can make exact copies of the gunsmith versions. You don't need or want the 6,000 pound lathe, little home unit will do the job.
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Old 12-07-2012, 5:20 PM
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Anyone know the dimensions of the pillars?
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:25 PM
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Update,

I ending up using some steel spacers that I picked up from Lowes for $1 instead of the one's offered by RSI. I would've gone for aluminum but no one seems to have the appropriate size in stock. They work just fine

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Old 12-11-2012, 8:00 AM
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You can use lamp rod. It's an AK,....I mean Mosin.
Hell, what's the difference?
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Old 12-11-2012, 2:23 PM
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If in the bay area, I can help you out.
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If you had filled out your profile to show your location and you happened to be near me, I would probably have made the offer that you can come grab a couple pillars from my scrap parts bin.
It's too bad you never filled out your profile with a location...
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It's an AK,....I mean Mosin.
Hell, what's the difference?
One recoils more.
The other recoils without having to operate the bolt for each shot.
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I did exactly what you outline on two Mosins, as a releasing agent I used paste car wax I already had. It worked well both times. Then when all dry, i cranked down as hard as I could on those two screws with a little locktight on both. It was a good learning experience! I also down loaded various sites on how and where to polish the action (bolt and trigger surfaces). Cost 99 cents and both have much smoother actions, but didn't make them more unsafe, nothing was cut, no spacers added. Used a (womans) nail polishing set from the 99 cent store and some dental floss. Are they more accurate? I don't know, shoot soviet surplus. But it was fun. And you cannot tell anything was done to them by looking. One thing you can notice is the front sights are really drifted to get them on target. Now if I could get some height on those front sight pins for cheap, and no I won't put wire insulation or a coffee stirrer on it. It has to be more permant. Have fun.
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If in the bay area, I can help you out.
Thanks for the offer, there was definitely a moment or two where it would've been nice to have someone with experience around. But, the deed is done, plus I live in So Cal.



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If you had filled out your profile to show your location and you happened to be near me, I would probably have made the offer that you can come grab a couple pillars from my scrap parts bin.
It's too bad you never filled out your profile with a location...
Updated. I'm on this site pretty much every day, but never thought about setting up my profile till now.



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I also down loaded various sites on how and where to polish the action (bolt and trigger surfaces). Cost 99 cents and both have much smoother actions, but didn't make them more unsafe, nothing was cut, no spacers added. Used a (womans) nail polishing set from the 99 cent store and some dental floss. Are they more accurate? I don't know, shoot soviet surplus. But it was fun. And you cannot tell anything was done to them by looking. One thing you can notice is the front sights are really drifted to get them on target. Now if I could get some height on those front sight pins for cheap, and no I won't put wire insulation or a coffee stirrer on it. It has to be more permant. Have fun.
Nail polish and floss?
Total McGyver

I'm the same way about my Mosin, I'm just practicing on it and having fun, DGAF about making a sub moa rifle.

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Old 12-11-2012, 9:37 PM
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I did exactly what you outline on two Mosins...
Hey LCU1670, how did you remove all the modeling clay? I can get out the big chunks, but there's little stuff left on there.

Basically, just wondering if there's an easier way than getting a toothpick and scraping it all out. i.e. any solvents that will dissolve it?
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I'm against this on general principle....even if it is just for practice...
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Hey LCU1670, how did you remove all the modeling clay? I can get out the big chunks, but there's little stuff left on there.

Basically, just wondering if there's an easier way than getting a toothpick and scraping it all out. i.e. any solvents that will dissolve it?
I didn't use any clay. A little piece of tape over the cleaning rod nut hole, tape on the stock edges, jb weld, squished it all together, screws firm, worked two for two.
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