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View Poll Results: Ruger SR22 or 22/45?
Ruger SR22 all the way!!! 33 25.58%
Ruger 22/45 all the way!! 84 65.12%
Some other .22 caliber pistol. please explain in comments 12 9.30%
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If you had to choose between the Ruger Sr22 and the Ruger 22/45 for it to be your ONLY gun for the rest of your life, which would it be?

I'm trying to decide which one I should get

The Ruger SR22 is reliable and has a EXTREMELY SIMPLE takedown field strip which gives it a plus 1. It also eats practically anything.

On the other hand, the 22/45 is ridiculously accurate and reliable also but more accurate. I may have also read that the 22/45 or one of the ruger marks will shoot even when dirty. I think there are even people out there who shoot their 22/45 and never clean it and it still functions. One thing I don't like about it is people seem to have trouble with the field strip. Lastly, the 22/45 and mark series pistols have done a good job in standing the test of time.

Do you think the Ruger SR22 pistol will stand the test of time like many ruger marks have? to the point where it will last a lifetime then you can pass it down to your kids?

Thoughts? Please help convince me towards one pistol or the other

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I'd pick the 22/45, it's a proven design. Frankly, I've never understood the difficulty with field stripping. After the first or second time, it's easy.
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I'd pick the 22/45, it's a proven design. Frankly, I've never understood the difficulty with field stripping. After the first or second time, it's easy.
Many people are probably over complicating it but the SR22's field strip is that much easier
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I grew up target shooting with a Ruger Mark 1 so the 22/45 just feels right.
A little longer barrel like the 6 7/8 slab side doesn't hurt for nail driving.
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get the 2245 now and get the sr22 later when its proven to be reliable.
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I would also have to vote for the 22/45 as it already has the track record of lasting a life time.

The 22/45 is probably built sturdier than the sr22. Steel vs aluminum. Both have polymer frames.
The sr22 is a very promising design, but it still to early to determine the longevity of the pistol compared to the proven Mk series.

I own a Mk III and will say the field strip is rather unorthodox and complicated, but it does get easier every time you do it. So, the takedown is not that big of a deal over the long term. Note: You will need tools to dissasemble the 22/45 especially the first couple of times.
However, if ease of takedown is of great importance in your consideration, objectivley speaking, the sr22 is much easier and quicker to fieldstrip the 1st, 2nd, or 100th time over a Mk series.

Also, my Mk III has been running like a champ with all sorts of ammo even when dirty.
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I would also have to vote for the 22/45 as it already has the track record of lasting a life time.

The 22/45 is probably built sturdier than the sr22. Steel vs aluminum. Both have polymer frames.
The sr22 is a very promising design, but it still to early to determine the longevity of the pistol compared to the proven Mk series.

I own a Mk III and will say the field strip is rather unorthodox and complicated, but it does get easier every time you do it. So, the takedown is not that big of a deal over the long term. Note: You will need tools to dissasemble the 22/45 especially the first couple of times.
However, if ease of takedown is of great importance in your consideration, objectivley speaking, the sr22 is much easier and quicker to fieldstrip the 1st, 2nd, or 100th time over a Mk series.

Also, my Mk III has been running like a champ with all sorts of ammo even when dirty.
Thanks to yours and everyones responses.

Quick question. How many rounds would you say a ruger 22/45 would last if you never cleaned it?
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Thanks to yours and everyones responses.

Quick question. How many rounds would you say a ruger 22/45 would last if you never cleaned it?
I haven't gone any more than 2000 before I sprayed the trigger assembly, so I can't answer your question. BTW, I've only cleaned the barrel when I degreased the whole pistole when it was new.
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Thanks to yours and everyones responses.

Quick question. How many rounds would you say a ruger 22/45 would last if you never cleaned it?
a million?
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Wow. that great of a pistol huh?
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I prefer the Mark III.
But then, it was the first gun I ever owned.
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22/45 all the way.

I have a thousand rounds through mine so far (just got it this year) without a single malfunction, and it has not been cleaned. The one I had before this one went many thousands with no issues and rare cleanings.

I had a chance to shoot an SR22 the other day, and only had one malfunction in 50 rounds. Not bad for a new gun, it shot well, and was fun. It wasn't any more fun than my 22/45 though, and didn't shoot quite as accurately.

The sights & barrel of the 22/45 are fixed in relation to eachother, which makes for a much more accurate gun. It also leaves much less weight for the low pressure .22LR cartridge to cycle. The SR22 may prove to be awesome, but it will never surpass the 22/45 or MKIII series pistols. I think Ruger only introduced it to compete with the P22 and Mosquito lines for the shooters that "must have" a rimfire that looks like a centerfire.

As to cleaning the 22/45, it is renowned as complicated because the manual leaves out the detail that it needs to be dry-fired before disassembly (the mainspring needs to be relaxed). Knowing that, and with a little practice, it isn't difficult.
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I think the field-stripping complaints are overblown. I have a Mark III (not a 22/45), and can field-strip it in 30 seconds at most. Removing the magazine-disconnect helps a little, (so you don't need to repeatedly insert and remove a magazine during the process) but it's really not that hard either way.
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The MarkIII is indeed difficult the first time as my first time I couldn't get it back together based on what was listed in the ruger video instruction or the manual. It has about 98% of what you need to know. I figured out how to do it and now I can disassemble it with and reassemble it between 30 sec and 1 minute. Note after a year I still need to use a rubber hammer, small wood punch (I made out of a balsa wood rod you can buy at any hardware store), and the magazine to disassemble and especially reassemble when you're trying to put in the final piece.
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I think my next piece is going to be a 22/45 or a mark 3 but probably the 22 45.
It will be my first pistol. I'm 19 and i heard that you can own a pistol at age 19 but that one of your parents has to buy it first and then you got to do some paper work to put it in your name. That's the route i plan on taking. My other firearm is a marlin 795. A 22/45 would be a nice addition.

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I've been tempted to get the sr22 which is on sale at turners now but alas, I decided to go with the 22/45( will dros tomorrow). Much proven track record on reliability, durability and accuracy.
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I will tell you what I have observed. Mark III's sell in minutes on the BST with people going 4 people deep on the "if it falls through" list. SR22's a sitting on there, with the thread just getting bumped.

I would take a bull barrel Mark III with adjustable target sites over an SR22 because the MIII is proven and lasts forever. They are a modern relic.
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The MK II cleaning ritual is easily learned and can be ignored from this point on.

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can we get any more comments on this...i'm trying to decide if the current sale at turners for he 22/45 is worth it for about $300 OTD (ive had my eye on the sr22 but this is a good deal)
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I've put 1000 rds through my sr22 and it is a difficult pistol to shoot; that being said, training with that pistol has increased my pistol marksmenship greatly.

I see the sr22 as a training pistol. It is def. not in my top ten for last pistol.

Get the 22/45.
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www.kygunco.com has the 22/45 on sale right now for $255.
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If it was just the two options then the SR22. However the option of other was here and im putting a vote for a Browning Buckmark! Lots of options and the fit and finish are outstanding for a rimfire pistol
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I have a mark III and sr22,
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Get the 22/45. The MK series are not difficult to field strip. Even detail stripping isn't all that difficult. I'd say that people who complain about disassembling these guns can probably barely change their own oil Besides, you don't have to clean them very often at all. Over on RFC, there's folks that have gone many thousands of rounds without cleaning. FWIW, I strip mine down after every shoot, whether it's 100 rounds or 1000 rounds.

IMO, the 22/45 wins hands down when it comes to price, reliability, accuracy, and proven track record. SR wins in takedown ease and depending on who you ask; looks.
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Definitely the 22/45. Only thing I really do with mine is run a boresnake down it after every range trip and just do an easy cleaning/inspection without really disassembling it and making sure its lubed enough (not too much). Easiest gun to maintain that I own and I've already put thousands of rounds through it.
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Beretta Neos:

or a Ruger SR22:


As all I hear about the Mark series is that they are a PITA of the pistol.

I shot a 22/45 the other day and the mag didn't want to slide "home", and I had to turn the pistol over to see how the mag went in, 3 mags in a row. I am sure someone could get used to it, but it seemed really awkward.

I would like a beefier slide release, and thumb selectable safety at the ready, not some barely tangible luggy-nub you have to doink with(, even on the magazine when loading).

I really don't like the thumb nubs on the Mark series, nor the way you have to take them apart to clean them. Give me a real slide, and a hammer any-day, so My vote will probably go to SR22.
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Unless you have SMALL hands the 22/45 will be more comfortable to shoot.

The small and large grips that came with the SR22 I bought for my wife (very tiny hands) should more accurately be described as small and not-so-small.

My MKII Govt Comp and 22/45 MKIII 4.5 bull barrel hardly ever need to be disassembled for cleaning. I simply use some spray Rem Oil to hose it out, the small end of a weapons brush to get the crud from around the chamber, then a bore snake, wipe it down and I'm done. I have had the MKII for well over 20yrs (with tens of thousands of rounds through it) and have probably only had it apart less then 5 times.

The NEOS isn't on the CA Safety List any more. My buddy has one and it has crappy sights (that there are no after market replacements for) and it is common for the extractor and spring to part ways with the gun (his did).

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These are two totally different pistols with some similar purposes, but mostly the 22/45 can offer you more diversity then the SR22.
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These are two totally different pistols with some similar purposes, but mostly the 22/45 can offer you more diversity then the SR22.
Well said. Barrel length alone makes is an apples to oranges comparison. Got a SR22 for my wife with small hands, not a pistol I would buy for myself but she loves it.
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I love my 22/45. I tried to handle the SR22 but that thing is way to small for me.
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I had both and the 22/45 is much more accurate with the bull barrel but I have more fun with the SR-22. Short term reliability was about the same.
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I had both and the 22/45 is much more accurate with the bull barrel but I have more fun with the SR-22. Short term reliability was about the same.
which one did you part with?
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The 22/45
Can you tell us why?
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The 22/45. A known quality product.
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22/45 hands down. i own both. here's a vid i made:

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I pick up my 22/45 tomorrow, pretty excited. Already ordered a bunch of Magazines and a TK Magazine disconnect bushing. Should be fun!
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I pick up my 22/45 tomorrow, pretty excited. Already ordered a bunch of Magazines and a TK Magazine disconnect bushing. Should be fun!
Hopefully you got an Ultimate Clip Loader as well. I couldn't imagine loading my four mags without it
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