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Steel case ammo in SA M1A
I saw Walmart had Tula ammo for $9.00 a box. I was tempted to buy some but thought Id inquire Springfield Armory before I attempted to fire any from my rifle. This is the response from SA Id thought Id share.
Here is the e-mail I got back from Springfield Armory about ammo use in my M1A:
From: TMAC [firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:45 AM
To: Muller, Rick
Subject: RE: Sales Email - Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:06:51
Hi Rick – That ammunition will be fine to shoot.
Here is some more ammunition information :
For the best accuracy we would recommend 168 grain Federal Match or Black Hills ammunition.
You may use any factory .308 ammunition made to SAAMI spec.
You can us military surplus 7.62x51 as long as it has NATO stamp on it.
You can use anywhere from 147-180 grain.
·Avoid Wolf Brand
·Avoid Hornady Tap Ammo
·Avoid Cavim ammo, It’s not very accurate & it varies in size
·Avoid soft point ammo & Steel Case ammo (it is not SAAMI spec ammo). The shaved lead gets down in the action and jams it up
·Can NOT use .308 Magnum
· 7.62x39 Russian ammo is too short.
· 7.62x51 NATO round is correct
·Commercial .308 Winchester is also the correct round
·Winchester Silver Tip is ok to use (hunting ammo)
·We use the British NATO RG head stamp
·Use FMJ, HP, or Ballistic Tip type rounds.
·Always LOAD from the magazine even when single loading. The M14 type rifles (M1A) are designed to only be loaded from a magazine and never directly into the chamber.
·175 grain is recommended for moose hunting
·168 grain is recommended for deer hunting
·168 grain is recommended for best accuracy
·Hornady Ballistic Tip or Winchester Fail Safe is recommended for hunting
·Molly Coated bullets are ok to use but when you start you must stay w/them. You will have to clean the gas port more often. We do not recommend. (If you do use them: it will gum up fast- just clean very well.
·Tracer & armor piercing ammo is ok to use as long as its 7.62 x 51 NATO Spec.
·Frangible Ammo is too light – wont work. If ammo is too light it may not function properly.
·Black Hills re-manufactured ammo is ok to use.
·Federal 150 gr American Eagle: is ok to use.
·Hornady Lt Magnum for short term use – not as a steady diet. Hornady 110 grain may not be enough gases to cycle the action properly. LM 03/07
·M80 ammo Military and M61 ammo – same as 7.62 NATO
309-944-8490 - FAX
Interesting, thou not sure I agree with all of what he says. My opinion is to stay clear of steel cased, as the M14 was not designed for it.
I have no info on the current CAVIM ammo, but the stuff from 1992 ran fine for me. It had a green colored sealant at the bullet/case that some claimed caused plugging of the gas port, yet I had no problems.
Soft point ammo, such as Remington will work fine. The worry is the tips may deform as the round chambers. This would affect accuracy a bit, but its minimum at say 100 yd. I use soft points for hunting.
Figure the M14 was designed for M80 ball with a 147grn bullet, so staying in the 147 to 175 limit would be best.
Moose and elk would better hunted with something larger than a 308.
The only thing that is worse than an idiot, is someone who argues with one.
I shoot steel case out of my loaded m1a
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