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Old 11-30-2012, 11:36 PM
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http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/xt/XT22.asp

Are the 12 shot 22 wmr rifles with tubular magazine legal in CA? Or illegal because they hold more than 10 shots? They are on the bottom half of the page above.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:40 PM
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Yes tube fed rimfire over ten rounds is legal.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:43 PM
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.22 caliber (rimfire or centerfire) tubular magazines are exempt from California's large capacity magazine restrictions.

Rimfire semi-auto rifles are exempt from California's assault weapon restrictions (unless listed by name. that Marlin is not listed by name.)

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That sounds good to me! I am thinking about a 22 mag bolt or a model 60. I really like how you can so easily top off a tube mag and don't have to worry about loosing a detachable mag.
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Yes tube fed rimfire over ten rounds is legal.
Tube fed rimfire are still restricted unless they are .22 caliber.

A bolt action rifle with an 11 round .17HMR rimfire tubular magazine would be illegal to import but a bolt action rifle with an 11 round .223 centerfire tubular magazine would be legal to import. The key is to be .22 caliber. Rimfire/centerfire doesn't matter.
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Tube fed rimfire are still restricted unless they are .22 caliber.

A bolt action rifle with an 11 round .17HMR rimfire tubular magazine would be illegal to import but a bolt action rifle with an 11 round .223 centerfire tubular magazine would be legal to import. The key is to be .22 caliber. Rimfire/centerfire doesn't matter.
Ummm .223 != .22
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12 makes it evil!!
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(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
^ Is the actual wording of the law.
Mssr. Eleganté is right. It does not state rimfire or centerfire.

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Ummm .223 != .22
Ummm yes it is.
.22 caliber
.223 is a .22 caliber.

Calibers are a rough range of round or bore diameters.
22(L,S,LR) all have a .222 in bullet diameter
22WMR is .224 in (5.7 mm)
5.56x45 is .224 in (5.7 mm)


Just like different 7.62 rounds are all .30 caliber
7.62x54R is 7.92 mm (0.312 in)
7.62x39 is 7.92 mm (0.312 in)
7.62x51 is 7.82 mm (0.308 in)
30-06 is 7.8 mm (0.308 in)
etc etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62_mm_caliber

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is the approximate internal diameter of the barrel, or the diameter of the projectile used in it.

[...]

For example, a firearm might be described as a ".30 caliber rifle", which could be any of a wide range of cartridges using a roughly .30 inch projectile; or a ".22 rimfire", referring to any rimfire cartridge using a .22 caliber projectile.



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12 makes it evil!!
Wrong. There are Marlin 60's that can hold 18 LR's which when loaded with Shorts can hold like 24 rounds or something like that
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What about my Marlin lever action that holds 14 45 long colts?
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Lever action tube feed is also exempt.
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What about my Marlin lever action that holds 14 45 long colts?
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(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
And before someone asks:
Note: While .22 cal tubes and lever action tubes are exempt. That does NOT exempt all tube'd firearms, such as shotguns! (Unless it is a lever action shotgun)
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Summary of what is exempt:

*.22 caliber tubular magazine fixed to any action (bolt, lever, pump/slide, semi-auto) and type of firearm (handgun, rifle, shotgun, other). [PC 16740(b)]

*any caliber tubular magazine fixed to a lever-action firearm (handgun, rifle, shotgun, other). [PC 16740(c)]



Penal Code 16740
As used in this part, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(a) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(b) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(c) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
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