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Old 11-01-2012, 6:13 PM
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Old 11-01-2012, 6:45 PM
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Sir, I am sincerely sorry for your dilemma and sadly I cannot offer any good advice...

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Old 11-01-2012, 6:48 PM
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Post pics...Then people can give input.
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Old 11-01-2012, 6:54 PM
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It'll cost you some livestock which you wont be able to recover when you decide to sell.
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sounds like history to me... treasure your unique 1911 from 1918
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Old 11-01-2012, 8:14 PM
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Find a good tig welder and have it welded up and reshaped. It can be fixed it will not be perfect but it will be much better then it is right now. And yes you will never get out of it what it will take to repair as it will kill some of the collector value more so due to refinishing.
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I just saw an article on a Turnbull Restorations 1911.

They started with a 1911 that didn't really need restoration but the result looked factory fresh.

The price might be more than you can stand but it could probably be saved.
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Old 11-01-2012, 9:07 PM
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It won't be worth the money you put in it to refinish it; collectors have a saying "it's only original once" and refinished pistols aren't very collectible. It would be cheaper to find another vintage 1911 and sell your existing one to someone as a shooter I'm afraid.
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Yours having already been Bubba'd is an exelint candidate to turn into the shooter of your dreams! Its much like this one. It's a 1919 Remington Rand that was cut up durring the Clinton years. I used two frames, and welded them together. when its all together Ill Dura Coat it and It will make a nice shooter for my youngest son.



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Yours having already been Bubba'd is an exelint candidate to turn into the shooter of your dreams! Its much like this one. It's a 1919 Remington Rand that was cut up durring the Clinton years. I used two frames, and welded them together. when its all together Ill Dura Coat it and It will make a nice shooter for my youngest son.



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Remington Rand didn't make 1911s in 1919. I don't think they made 1911s in any year ending in 9.
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The cuts on that frame are making me think it's Ithaca, but he may be confused with a Remington Arms UMC frame, which were made during 1919. The Rands didn't come into existence until 1942.
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I've seen mag spring housings with those marks before on original 1911s

It may be a period 'in theatre' modification

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I've seen mag spring housings with those marks before on original 1911s

It may be a period 'in theatre' modification

Trenches got muddy , mud is slipery
Yeah know maybe someone should have a good look at this pistol before anything is done to correct anything on it. Ajax might be correct. It may be bubba'd but if it was done in theater it adds to the interest.
If so correcting it would seriously kill the value.

Now there is no way to know for sure if it was done in battle but if the patina is the same as other areas of the pistol it very well might be original to the pistol as far as a first own modification.
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I would have to agree with Ajax22 alot of pistols in that period got modified by the soldier it was issued to. If you look at alot of other pistols and rifles in that period as well you will see similar modification as it was issued to soldiers in the field.

Heck even to this day there is soldiers modifying their standard government issued M16/M4 in the field.

BUT pictures would be extremely helpful to better determine if you might have a unique pistol with history .... or a bubba blunder.

The other thing to keep in mind the steel used in that period was carbon steel and not like the alloys used in more modern 1911 pistols, so it is more brittle.
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norweigen m1914, sweet!!! the nazi 1911. only had the waffenamt on the first year though.
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Keep as is and buy another 1911 to shoot.
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While its collector value would be higher in un-molested original condition if it were mine I'd weld it up and completely refinish it. Its still a 1918 gun and it looks like it has all the original markings.

That said befire I did anything I'd someone like call Cylinder & Slide for thier opinion. The owner recently reproduced the original gun down the very last detail and would have good info on its value and collectability in both forms. If they don't I'm sure they can tell you where to get the best info. http://www.cylinder-slide.com/
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Cheaper to just cover the mess.
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$700 is a good price... if you still have it in a few weeks when im back working i may just have to take you up on that
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Even this quick fix would make it better. DR

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It can be welded. Then filed smooth and rebelled. But the value will be gone. Plus after revaluing, it will not look old.
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Keep in mind welding it up and re-parking MAY not remove the cut marks due to the different metals. I have had lighter park results show up after welding.
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Along with Pachmayr Hogue ,http://www.getgrip.com/ , I have used the pachmayr and replaced them with the hogue. A world of difference. I love mine.
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If you aren't ready to weld and sand, then you could just fill with some type of epoxy filler and spray a coating on the gun.
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I would learn to like it . There is history in those cuts. Enjoy the 1911! TKM has the right idea http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par...prod16409.aspx

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I'm just enough of a treasure hunter to want to believe those grooves were cut by a soldier and increases the value in that regard. But who knows?

You could have it repaired, I don't think it would be that much work and with some research the weldor might be able to match up the steel. I believe the steel was called "ordinance steel", not really anything special. Use an old coat hanger for filler wire.
The problem is gonna be with how many passes it will take to fill all that in, it's gonna create a lot of shrinkage which shouldn't crack the frame but might due to stress.

I don't think I'd be so quick to want to sell it and I'm amazed at the value it has in the condition it is in, that is if some felon got ahold of it and did that to it instead of a soldier.
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I have a 1911 that had someone peen the front of the frame for a better grip. So I gas welded it in a jig to prevent warping, then hand filed n polished it smooth. Then had the entire frame and slide reblued. Came out great, though you can tell its been revalued, it's now a very nice commercial 1911 made n 1916. Still shoots good. The value is most definitely higher vs Mickey moused.
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Ment to say reblued not revalued.
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