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Old 11-08-2012, 8:18 PM
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Default Featureless Saiga conversion, CHECK!!!

Hey folks, completed my conversion/feaureless build. Just runnin it by the experts, i am "compliant" yes???





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Old 11-08-2012, 8:22 PM
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Looks like an awful lot of work to avoid a bullet button.
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Old 11-08-2012, 8:22 PM
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Yes you are compliant....but WTF is that sticking out below your safety lever?
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Old 11-08-2012, 9:00 PM
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Yes you are compliant....but WTF is that sticking out below your safety lever?
I've seen those before. Apparantly that is supposed to be a thumb rest or thumb stop of some sort.
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Old 11-08-2012, 9:05 PM
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Looks like an awful lot of work to avoid a bullet button.
AK bullet buttons aren't really a button - they are a total PITA. Featureless is worth it.
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Old 11-08-2012, 9:12 PM
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Featureless AK is the way to go.
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Old 11-08-2012, 9:13 PM
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IMO no point in converting a saiga if youre just going to go featureless.
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Old 11-09-2012, 2:16 AM
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IMO no point in converting a saiga if youre just going to go featureless.
I agree, though I do see the point in adding a feed ramp and 922 parts.
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Old 11-09-2012, 2:47 AM
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IMO no point in converting a saiga if youre just going to go featureless.
There is if you want to get rid of the crap factory trigger setup.
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Old 11-09-2012, 5:51 AM
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There is if you want to get rid of the crap factory trigger setup.
And use AK mags (ok, you could do only that if you wanted to...)
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Old 11-09-2012, 6:30 AM
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What's so hard about screwing kydex to a grip?

If shtf he can just unscrew the kydex and be ready to go.
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Old 11-09-2012, 6:43 AM
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Looks like an awful lot of work to avoid a bullet button.
Negative.

First of all, maglock devices on AK's suck and magazines cannot be changed quickly like an AR can with a UBBT equipped magazine.

Second of all, the big advantage is to enable the use of all those old commie surplus 30 rd AK mags one might have in their garage.

Third, the AK can be made featureless in 30 seconds with a grip sleeve and that is all you need. AR's require pinned stocks, muzzle brakes, removal of the bullet button, etc.

If you are stuck behind PRK lines, then featureless is the only way to fly.
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If you only shoot with your left hand you placed the Kydex in the right place. Cutting a slot in the middle and then epoxying the fin in gives you a small area to rest your palm.
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Why put a pistol grip at all?
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Old 11-09-2012, 7:36 AM
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Featureless is the ONLY way for AKs in CA !

Looks good but what is that bolt under the safety? I take it you are a lefty based on your grip wrap so it can't be a thumb rest
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Old 11-09-2012, 7:38 AM
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If you are a righty, why didn't you screw the grip fin on the other side?
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Old 11-09-2012, 8:31 AM
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Yes I just noticed that. The grip fin is definitely set up for a lefty.
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It looks like you're "featureless" from the photos, but what do you mean by "compliant?" If you mean "922(r) compliant," I can't tell by looking at the photos. What original parts did you replace with USA-made ones?
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:18 AM
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I was just referring to the fin mostly, as in is it "enough" fin. It has the US made stock, FCG, trigger guard, muzzle brake, etc. I used the 922r calculator, its compliant.

Every pic i have seen of featureless grips had the fin like I had, even on rightys. Oh well, its still comfortable. Noting i cant fix/experiment with later.

Tank, why a pistol grip? Every try and shoot an AK with a normal FCG without using the grip? Youll get your hand smacked with the bolt handle.
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Old 11-09-2012, 3:21 PM
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that muthaf$%^er is ugly..but hey if it makes u happy then we're happy for u!
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Old 11-09-2012, 4:18 PM
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There is if you want to get rid of the crap factory trigger setup.
I don't know if the Tapco one's any better, but would that solve the problem?
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:27 PM
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that muthaf$%^er is ugly..but hey if it makes u happy then we're happy for u!

Obviously an AR15 guy
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:30 PM
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I don't know if the Tapco one's any better, but would that solve the problem?
As you can see, doing a conversion is more than just swapping parts, this is the stock Saiga trigger setup, trigger -> transfer bar -> FCG. having all those extra parts between trigger and FCG creates godawful trigger creep and pull. Why am I having to explain why a Saiga conversion is beneficial??? I thought this was common knowledge on here?
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:39 PM
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Yes I just noticed that. The grip fin is definitely set up for a lefty.
How so? With the thumb stop, this set up allows him to wrap the rest of his wrist creating some sort of grip. At least that is how I perceive it
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:47 PM
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Why am I having to explain why a Saiga conversion is beneficial??? I thought this was common knowledge on here?
I didn't know. I was sort of afraid to ask, so I'm glad you explained it. I've only recently become interested in AKs.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:06 PM
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that muthaf$%^er is ugly..but hey if it makes u happy then we're happy for u!

Featureless guns usually are ugly IMO, but who cares? I cant see it when Im shooting. What I can see are my pre-bans dropping freely.
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u got that right bro, u can use them hi-cap mags to your hearts content, no hate mang...it's just cuz we live in the state of KALIFA
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That setup looks very appealing to me. It is pretty much common knowledge if you watched all of the idiot antis during this election cycle that the AK is is the most evil rifle man has ever created and will definitely be in their sites for banning as soon as possible. I am buying either a Saiga and converting or an AK as soon as possible.
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Old 11-10-2012, 7:50 PM
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No kiddin, seems they are uninformed that very few people own an "AK47", they are NFA tax stamp folks with $10000+ rifles...

A Saiga is a Saiga, a WASR is an AK "VARIANT"...

No AK47 here occifer
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I agree that converting then going featureless is a good idea. I also agree the maglock for Saigas are annoying and cumbersome.
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Here's my shtf featureless Saiga 240 AK74. Like the long sight radius from the Tech Sights. That's the Solar tactical kydex grip wrap for the wide Hogue pistol grip.

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